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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 9, 2019 17:51:21 GMT -5
Bright spots: I thought Jagan and Pickett played great. Both look to me like significantly improved players this year. Rebounding in general was really good, I thought. (Yurt was obviously a bright spot, too, but I have something in particular to say about that in a minute.) Dark spot: 3 point defense. Atrocious. Flashing the big out to the perimeter is NOT working. Curious: Yurtseven was absolutely dominant, so why the heck did he play only 19 minutes? I get that the other new guys benefit from PT, but to my mind it is more important to give our best players more time playing together, especially since Yurt is our most important new player. If I'm coach both James and Yurt are getting 30+ minutes per game. If we were an already established good team I might feel differently this early in the season. Patrick's substitutions seem almost random to me. Curious for a different reason: Does anyone know why #55 for CA didn't play in the second half? He had been their leading scorer. I was at the game, so if anything was said on TV I missed it. Re: Yurtseven - mostly foul trouble. He sat after #2 in the first half and after #3 in the second. #55 - did not notice any injury. He was pulled after taking a foul and getting called on it in the first half, not sure if the coach was sending a message.
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 9, 2019 18:01:52 GMT -5
Curious: Yurtseven was absolutely dominant, so why the heck did he play only 19 minutes? I get that the other new guys benefit from PT, but to my mind it is more important to give our best players more time playing together, especially since Yurt is our most important new player. If I'm coach both James and Yurt are getting 30+ minutes per game. If we were an already established good team I might feel differently this early in the season. Patrick's substitutions seem almost random to me. A lot of people seem to think the rotation of players is going to drop significantly in Big East play. My listening to Patrick’s narrative in interviews and watching what he has been doing, I think he is trying to move to a different model in which he plays up to 11+ and mixes and matches him based on who is hot and what he needs. This is why when Ranch suggested Mac and James would average 30+ for the season that I took the under. Mac and James are two of our best players, but I don’t see Allen, Mosely, and Blair playing fewer than 25-30 minute combined per game. I think this new mental model relates to his recruiting strategy as well. How do you recruit Allen who was a starter on a NCAA team to come be a back-up? By telling him there will be lots of opportunities to play. If Patrick really planned to play Akinjo 30+, then he would probably have to outright lie to Allen to get him to transfer to Georgetown. That is what it looks like to me. Of course, this approach requires that you have all the athletes you need to implement. It looks to me like he might. Culturally, I also wonder if minutes are scarce if you get hungrier players while they are on the court.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 9, 2019 18:05:32 GMT -5
My two candidates for more minutes than expected this season are Mosely and Alexander.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Nov 9, 2019 18:06:07 GMT -5
Curious: Yurtseven was absolutely dominant, so why the heck did he play only 19 minutes? I get that the other new guys benefit from PT, but to my mind it is more important to give our best players more time playing together, especially since Yurt is our most important new player. If I'm coach both James and Yurt are getting 30+ minutes per game. If we were an already established good team I might feel differently this early in the season. Patrick's substitutions seem almost random to me. A lot of people seem to think the rotation of players is going to drop significantly in Big East play. My listening to Patrick’s narrative in interviews and watching what he has been doing, I think he is trying to move to a different model in which he plays up to 11+ and mixes and matches him based on who is hot and what he needs. This is why when Ranch suggested Mac and James would average 30+ for the season that I took the under. Mac and James are two of our best players, but I don’t see Allen, Mosely, and Blair playing fewer than 25-30 minute combined per game. I think this new mental model relates to his recruiting strategy as well. How do you recruit Allen who was a starter on a NCAA team to come be a back-up? By telling him there will be lots of opportunities to play. If Patrick really planned to play Akinjo 30+, then he would probably have to outright lie to Allen to get him to transfer to Georgetown. That is what it looks like to me. Of course, this approach requires that you have all the athletes you need to implement. It looks to me like he might. Culturally, I also wonder if minutes are scarce if you get hungrier players while they are on the court. I would accept this rationale of Ewing’ rationale.
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 9, 2019 18:08:01 GMT -5
As soon as I post my theory, here is Ewing’s quote after the game....
“I’m not sure how deep I want to go,” Ewing said of the rotation. “I’m sure a lot of them are not happy with the minutes they got, but there are going to be nights when we are going to go with 10-11 guys. There are going to be nights when the rotation is going to be short.”
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 9, 2019 18:14:58 GMT -5
I wish we could but we are already playing 11 players. Today 10 players played 10+ and an eleventh played 7 minutes. [Myron was that 11th and his per 40 today would be (18 rebounds and 24 points)] Myron doesn’t look ready yet IMHO. For seven minutes of playing time, he was awfully productive. He was 2-5 with 2 offensive rebounds and 1 defensive rebounds. He also had 3 fouls. For his 2nd game, that is not too bad for me. Does he need to improve? Yes..but I’ll take it.
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Post by MCIGuy on Nov 9, 2019 18:15:09 GMT -5
As soon as I post my theory, here is Ewing’s quote after the game.... “I’m not sure how deep I want to go,” Ewing said of the rotation. “I’m sure a lot of them are not happy with the minutes they got, but there are going to be nights when we are going to go with 10-11 guys. There are going to be nights when the rotation is going to be short.” And this is how it should be.
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Post by dchoya72 on Nov 9, 2019 18:17:24 GMT -5
I wish we could but we are already playing 11 players. Today 10 players played 10+ and an eleventh played 7 minutes. [Myron was that 11th and his per 40 today would be (18 rebounds and 24 points)] Myron doesn’t look ready yet IMHO. 4 pts and 3 rebounds in seven minutes was not bad at all. He's active when he plays. He needs time and I believe he will earn it and find his spot and shooting touch. I don't there is a reason to be concerned.
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Post by dchoya72 on Nov 9, 2019 18:24:41 GMT -5
Team needs time to jell and develop chemistry. We have good personnel. Yurtseven looks good; first game for Josh.pleasantly surprised at Mosley's shooting. I like that he is confident enough to take the shots and glad that he is making shots. The off-season conditioning is working. Mac has to find his shot.
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Post by madgesiq92 on Nov 9, 2019 18:25:28 GMT -5
Myron doesn’t look ready yet IMHO. For seven minutes of playing time, he was awfully productive. He was 2-5 with 2 offensive rebounds and 1 defensive rebounds. He also had 3 fouls. For his 2nd game, that is not too bad for me. Does he need to improve? Yes..but I’ll take it. Did you watch the game or are you just looking at the box score? He had three air balls, 2 on out of control drives. One of which he got his own rebound and put it back in which accounts for one offensive rebound and 2 points. Deer in headlights on offense, somewhat lost on defense. I’m not down on the kid, just saying he may not be ready yet to be part of rotation as competition improves. Which is OK. He a freshman. Qudus, on the other hand looks ready to contribute— and Alexander is gong to be important off the bench.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Nov 9, 2019 18:30:48 GMT -5
For seven minutes of playing time, he was awfully productive. He was 2-5 with 2 offensive rebounds and 1 defensive rebounds. He also had 3 fouls. For his 2nd game, that is not too bad for me. Does he need to improve? Yes..but I’ll take it. Did you watch the game or are you just looking at the box score? He had three air balls, 2 on out of control drives. One of which he got his own rebound and put it back in which accounts for one offensive rebound and 2 points. Deer in headlights on offense, somewhat lost on defense. I’m not down on the kid, just saying he’s not ready yet to be part of rotation. Qudus, on the other hand looks ready to contribute. Beat me to it. Its actually the opposite of "concern". He's a big athletic kid but right now he just happens to be on the floor doing things. He's not part of the flow on either side. No knock on him, its great he can contribute by brute force. But that's not going to fly going forward. Qudus is raw too but as a back-up center, hes disruptive and really just has to clear space on offense and not bite on pump fakes on defense to be a positive.
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Post by drquigley on Nov 9, 2019 18:33:05 GMT -5
This team can obviously beat Penn State. This team looks a lot like the previous years where we are going to win some nobody thinks we can win and lose some nobody thought we could lose. I think the improved schedule should be good enough to get us to the tourney but I am not seeing a lot of progression from year to year so far. That is all a consequence of being a streaky O team and a team that relies on the other team to miss open 3's on the other end. If we didn't lose on Wednesday I don't think we will lose any games that aren't expected...unless you count a home conference game...I just don't see any easy outs in the BE...even StJs is playing well.. FWIW, UNC-Greensboro gave Kansas a fight. Be afraid.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Nov 9, 2019 18:34:17 GMT -5
Team needs time to jell and develop chemistry. We have good personnel. Yurtseven looks good; first game for Josh.pleasantly surprised at Mosley's shooting. I like that he is confident enough to take the shots and glad that he is making shots. The off-season conditioning is working. Mac has to find his shot. In game 1, Mac was 6-9; 2-4. More concerned with his D and better judgement within the offense.
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Post by dchoya72 on Nov 9, 2019 18:49:29 GMT -5
Team needs time to jell and develop chemistry. We have good personnel. Yurtseven looks good; first game for Josh.pleasantly surprised at Mosley's shooting. I like that he is confident enough to take the shots and glad that he is making shots. The off-season conditioning is working. Mac has to find his shot. In game 1, Mac was 6-9; 2-4. More concerned with his D and better judgement within the offense. Okay.
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Post by kbones17 on Nov 9, 2019 18:56:17 GMT -5
As soon as I post my theory, here is Ewing’s quote after the game.... “I’m not sure how deep I want to go,” Ewing said of the rotation. “I’m sure a lot of them are not happy with the minutes they got, but there are going to be nights when we are going to go with 10-11 guys. There are going to be nights when the rotation is going to be short.” Thanks for posting this quote, I’m glad to hear it. I do think we need to shorten the rotation to work on our team defense. I get trying to get some of the new guys some run, but I think that time is better spent in most cases making sure the top units work on their communication and execution. I’d like to see our top 9 get the bulk of the minutes; to me that is: Akinjo, Mac, Pickett, LeBlanc, Yurt, with the bench of Mosely, Allen, Alexander, Wahab. I like Gardner, and I think he will play a bit, but he is vying with a lot of competition for minutes.
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Post by centercourt400s on Nov 9, 2019 20:14:40 GMT -5
Bright spots: I thought Jagan and Pickett played great. Both look to me like significantly improved players this year. Rebounding in general was really good, I thought. (Yurt was obviously a bright spot, too, but I have something in particular to say about that in a minute.) Dark spot: 3 point defense. Atrocious. Flashing the big out to the perimeter is NOT working. Curious: Yurtseven was absolutely dominant, so why the heck did he play only 19 minutes? I get that the other new guys benefit from PT, but to my mind it is more important to give our best players more time playing together, especially since Yurt is our most important new player. If I'm coach both James and Yurt are getting 30+ minutes per game. If we were an already established good team I might feel differently this early in the season. Patrick's substitutions seem almost random to me. Curious for a different reason: Does anyone know why #55 for CA didn't play in the second half? He had been their leading scorer. I was at the game, so if anything was said on TV I missed it. During his first rotation he stayed out longer then the rest of the starters and then got caught on the court for a couple of long possessions while Ewing had Q ready to check in. Yurtseven was gassed and stayed out extra long because of that. Later in the game he scored then was somewhat lazy and got beat upcourt by his man who got an easy layup. Ewing immediately pulled him. Finally, Q was playing well and it seemed to me that Ewing took the opportunity to get him extra experience.
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Post by tashoya on Nov 9, 2019 20:57:58 GMT -5
They're not where they need to be yet but I really like this group. Alexander and Gardner are going to be pushing guys for minutes.
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Post by hoyazeke on Nov 9, 2019 21:02:24 GMT -5
Myron doesn’t look ready yet IMHO. For seven minutes of playing time, he was awfully productive. He was 2-5 with 2 offensive rebounds and 1 defensive rebounds. He also had 3 fouls. For his 2nd game, that is not too bad for me. Does he need to improve? Yes..but I’ll take it. He shot one airball....all it took....
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Post by madgesiq92 on Nov 9, 2019 21:20:08 GMT -5
For seven minutes of playing time, he was awfully productive. He was 2-5 with 2 offensive rebounds and 1 defensive rebounds. He also had 3 fouls. For his 2nd game, that is not too bad for me. Does he need to improve? Yes..but I’ll take it. He shot one airball....all it took.... 3
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Post by hoyainla on Nov 9, 2019 21:28:01 GMT -5
Curious for a different reason: Does anyone know why #55 for CA didn't play in the second half? He had been their leading scorer. I was at the game, so if anything was said on TV I missed it. They mentioned he got hurt. That kind of makes the result worse but we are only focusing on positives right now.
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