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Post by professorhoya on Mar 30, 2019 14:49:43 GMT -5
Willard would be a huge downgrade for tech. That’s the problem with being a Stepping Stone School. You can never keep your coach cause any success and they bolt for greener pastures. Tech fans are in the 4th phase of grief.....bargaining....lol....PLEASE DON'T GO!!!! As much as He Who Must Not Be Named and his minions advocate getting rid of the Thompsons and anyone connected with the Thompsons from the program and coaching, the reality is that if we hire a mercenary coach we will become a Stepping Stone School like Butler (Thad Motta, Todd Lickleter, Brad Stevens, Chris Holtzmann), VCU (Shaka Smart, Will Wade), Illinois (Bill Self), Virginia Tech (Buzz) in this never ending cycle of fearful rotation every 3-4 years with any semblance of success.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 30, 2019 14:54:22 GMT -5
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 30, 2019 15:16:47 GMT -5
Professor this isn't true. KBJ, Clarke, Bede, Wilkins and possibly Nolley make a decent core....add Gult(?), Harris...the cupboard isn't bare but I do agree that Buzz is gone...just not because Tech will be bad next year. Tech is in much better shape than A&M.
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Post by mdtd on Mar 30, 2019 16:33:29 GMT -5
More Big East coaching turnover may be coming. Tim Cluess is a very good coach. Though, why wouldn't he just go to VTech? Would it make sense for Kevin "the Chiropractor" Willard to go to Virginia Tech from Seton Hall, a school that he's done really well with? Cluess has done an excellent job at Iona, especially this season and deserves high major looks. The team that he took to the tourney and played UNC tough in the first half was probably the worst team he's had at Iona. Dude's an excellent coach, I'd be surprised if he isn't at a better school in the next two years.
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Post by navio on Mar 30, 2019 18:25:35 GMT -5
If he is hiring an agent, he CANNOT return. Ponds might be gone for sure, but your statement about agents is outdated based on the new rules. That’s why I was asking if anyone knew the new rules well enough to explain them. “If Nwora isn't drafted, he can return to Louisville so long as he notifies the university by the Monday after the draft. According to new NCAA rules effective this year, Nwora can hire an agent if he requests an evaluation from the NBA Undergraduate Advisory Committee. He will still be eligible to play in college if he makes a written agreement with the agent and then terminates it when he returns to school.” My fault. To be fair, they keep changing the rules!
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Post by smokeyjack on Mar 31, 2019 9:20:49 GMT -5
Tech fans are in the 4th phase of grief.....bargaining....lol....PLEASE DON'T GO!!!! As much as He Who Must Not Be Named and his minions advocate getting rid of the Thompsons and anyone connected with the Thompsons from the program and coaching, the reality is that if we hire a mercenary coach we will become a Stepping Stone School like Butler (Thad Motta, Todd Lickleter, Brad Stevens, Chris Holtzmann), VCU (Shaka Smart, Will Wade), Illinois (Bill Self), Virginia Tech (Buzz) in this never ending cycle of fearful rotation every 3-4 years with any semblance of success. Who is this GU Voldemort? I want to meet him and join the movement because I agree 100%
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 31, 2019 9:33:34 GMT -5
As much as He Who Must Not Be Named and his minions advocate getting rid of the Thompsons and anyone connected with the Thompsons from the program and coaching, the reality is that if we hire a mercenary coach we will become a Stepping Stone School like Butler (Thad Motta, Todd Lickleter, Brad Stevens, Chris Holtzmann), VCU (Shaka Smart, Will Wade), Illinois (Bill Self), Virginia Tech (Buzz) in this never ending cycle of fearful rotation every 3-4 years with any semblance of success. Who is this GU Voldemort? I want to meet him and join the movement because I agree 100% So you want to get rid of Patrick?
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Mar 31, 2019 9:45:22 GMT -5
Who is this GU Voldemort? I want to meet him and join the movement because I agree 100% So you want to get rid of Patrick? Appears so. This fanbase has drastically forgotten how to have nice things.
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Post by hoya9797 on Mar 31, 2019 10:14:09 GMT -5
Who is this GU Voldemort? I want to meet him and join the movement because I agree 100% So you want to get rid of Patrick? I wish they’d never hired him or at least had actually conducted a real search before deciding on him. When it’s time to replace him, I hope they move on from the Thompson family tree.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 31, 2019 10:15:31 GMT -5
Who is this GU Voldemort? I want to meet him and join the movement because I agree 100% So you want to get rid of Patrick? Not to speak for Smokey but I think what he’s saying is that he doesn’t want Gtown basketball to be beholden to Pops forever... We are all eternally grateful for what he has done for the program but he shouldn’t be a big factor in decision making any longer imo... Having said that I’m on board for giving PE time to right the ship...
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Post by prhoya on Mar 31, 2019 10:22:47 GMT -5
So you want to get rid of Patrick? I wish they’d never hired him or at least had actually conducted a real search before deciding on him. When it’s time to replace him, I hope they move on from the Thompson family tree. What about BobRonny?
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Post by justsaying on Mar 31, 2019 11:41:06 GMT -5
Just to be clear; some are saying Pat does not deserve a fair shake because of who he played for and with? Last time i observed Coach Ew is doing the coaching. Why this constant convo about what was is as much about personal conceived notions as much as it about about what Jr. should and should not be. With such notions there will not be a fair shake from those will these notions being the premise of their fan support and other fans will just have endure this opossum with every single loss until the very next win.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Mar 31, 2019 12:03:46 GMT -5
Who is this GU Voldemort? I want to meet him and join the movement because I agree 100% So you want to get rid of Patrick? "Voldemort"? Ahh... the curse of a season gone too soon!
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Post by justsaying on Mar 31, 2019 12:06:19 GMT -5
And hopefully not to endure this possum from now until the start of a new season.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 31, 2019 12:17:28 GMT -5
Just to be clear; some are saying Pat does not deserve a fair shake because of who he played for and with? Last time i observed Coach Ew is doing the coaching. Why this constant convo about what was is as much about personal conceived notions as much as it about about what Jr. should and should not be. With such notions there will not be a fair shake from those will these notions being the premise of their fan support and other fans will just have endure this opossum with every single loss until the very next win. Who stated in any way that PE does not deserve a fair shot because he played for JT2? Much more often than not these conversations are started by Thompson defenders, not his critics. This very conversation is an example of it...
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Mar 31, 2019 12:44:49 GMT -5
So you want to get rid of Patrick? I wish they’d never hired him or at least had actually conducted a real search before deciding on him. When it’s time to replace him, I hope they move on from the Thompson family tree. Why though? Who do you think is more qualified that was available? Is there someone else you preferred? Do you not like having someone with 30+ years of basketball experience at the highest level? Methinks you suffer from big man coaching bias, or some other bias that I won’t even go into.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Mar 31, 2019 12:47:52 GMT -5
So you want to get rid of Patrick? Not to speak for Smokey but I think what he’s saying is that he doesn’t want Gtown basketball to be beholden to Pops forever... We are all eternally grateful for what he has done for the program but he shouldn’t be a big factor in decision making any longer imo... Having said that I’m on board for giving PE time to right the ship... I mean it was a factor, but Patrick was more than qualified. Just because he knows the Thompson’s doesn’t also mean that he can’t be a good and qualified coach. People need to think further than “oh he knows JT2! Nepotism! We’re hiring just because they’re friends!”
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Mar 31, 2019 12:49:26 GMT -5
Just to be clear; some are saying Pat does not deserve a fair shake because of who he played for and with? Last time i observed Coach Ew is doing the coaching. Why this constant convo about what was is as much about personal conceived notions as much as it about about what Jr. should and should not be. With such notions there will not be a fair shake from those will these notions being the premise of their fan support and other fans will just have endure this opossum with every single loss until the very next win. Who stated in any way that PE does not deserve a fair shot because he played for JT2? Much more often than not these conversations are started by Thompson defenders, not his critics. This very conversation is an example of it... Orrrrr. It could just be a objective conversation, you don’t have to assign people to teams and prejudge. People can be fans or not be fans of JT3 or the Thompsons and still have an objective and reasonable discussion about Patrick EWINGs coaching ability. Crazy idea, huh. And I’m support J Wallace but it’s funny nobody has any problem with him being on the staff despite having virtually no coaching experience. Is it because he got into Princeton and Ewing simply got recruited to play at GU? Or is it because all guards are better coaches than all big men? Would love to hear some reasoning behind that...
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 31, 2019 12:59:27 GMT -5
Not to speak for Smokey but I think what he’s saying is that he doesn’t want Gtown basketball to be beholden to Pops forever... We are all eternally grateful for what he has done for the program but he shouldn’t be a big factor in decision making any longer imo... Having said that I’m on board for giving PE time to right the ship... I mean it was a factor, but Patrick was more than qualified. Just because he knows the Thompson’s doesn’t also mean that he can’t be a good and qualified coach. People need to think further than “oh he knows JT2! Nepotism! We’re hiring just because they’re friends!” Who said or implied that PE didn't have experience or that he can't be a good coach?
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 31, 2019 13:03:55 GMT -5
Who stated in any way that PE does not deserve a fair shot because he played for JT2? Much more often than not these conversations are started by Thompson defenders, not his critics. This very conversation is an example of it... Orrrrr. It could just be a objective conversation, you don’t have to assign people to teams and prejudge. People can be fans or not be fans of JT3 or the Thompsons and still have an objective and reasonable discussion about Patrick EWINGs coaching ability. Crazy idea, huh. And I’m support J Wallace but it’s funny nobody has any problem with him being on the staff despite having virtually no coaching experience. Is it because he got into Princeton and Ewing simply got recruited to play at GU? Or is it because all guards are better coaches than all big men? Would love to hear some reasoning behind that... Do you think what ProfessorHoya posted yesterday was an objective way to start a conversation about Gtown basketball?
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