calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Dec 3, 2018 12:07:50 GMT -5
The pacing of this game should be interesting. Our adjusted tempo is 31 of 353, whereas Liberty's is 334. Our average possession length on offense is 15.8 (52nd ranked), whereas Liberty's is 19.2 (330th ranked). I have not seen Liberty play, but based on those stats, it seems like they must be very deliberate on offense. All of which means that focused and patient defense is more important than ever. It also means that there are likely going to be fewer possessions so turnovers have to be minimized.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Dec 3, 2018 12:16:32 GMT -5
The pacing of this game should be interesting. Our adjusted tempo is 31 of 353, whereas Liberty's is 334. Our average possession length on offense is 15.8 (52nd ranked), whereas Liberty's is 19.2 (330th ranked). I have not seen Liberty play, but based on those stats, it seems like they must be very deliberate on offense. All of which means that focused and patient defense is more important than ever. It also means that there are likely going to be fewer possessions so turnovers have to be minimized. Or we press and try to speed them up and make them uncomfortable.
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Post by bamahoya11 on Dec 3, 2018 12:48:07 GMT -5
I'm looking forward to the game tonight -- it'll be my first chance to see the Hoyas in person this year. Liberty is a good basketball team; I could easily see them pulling the upset tonight. It's obviously a game that we need to win.
Ewing so far has struggled a bit to put teams away. I noticed it some last year when we would beat smaller schools by 8-12 points when it seemed like we should win by 20-30. This year we have some of the same issues. With a young team, it's hard to make that decisive run that fully takes the other team out of it. If we don't improve, it'll be another struggle in league play.
That said, I'm more excited to see this team in person than I have been any team in the last few seasons. Ewing has done a good job recruiting so far, and he has been surprisingly effective at targeting talent up and down the recruiting boards. I hope our freshmen play well and lead us to victory tonight.
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Post by sleepy on Dec 3, 2018 13:25:32 GMT -5
Can we tone down the theatrics a bit? It's December 1st. It's too early to know how most teams will shape up in a months time at this point, let alone two months time. It's fair when we are 2-4 or 3-5 going into December like the past, but the overall tone on this board has been over the top the last two weeks. Your argument would be more credible if your facts were straight. In fact, since at least 2002 (and probably further back), Georgetown has only gone into December once with a losing record once, in 2016 (2-3, and two of the losses were to good Maryland and Duke teams), and they were .500 once - in 2017, they were 4-4 (but again, 3 of the losses were to top 50 opponents). I am very happy we have won a bunch of games, but the fact is that losing to Loyola Marymount and almost losing to a 200-level USF team isn't exactly inspiring. I fully acknowledge we can improve and do better. I certainly hope that happens. There are definitely some really good bright spots - Akinjo's presence as a point guard, everything about Josh LeBlanc, better guard play, etc. But there are also others, like the defense, that aren't quite so positive. We will see how it shakes out. I was being hyperbolic about the records, those records are even worse than I expected...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2018 15:38:57 GMT -5
I think the fanbase is over-rating our opponent just a bit. We match up very nicely against them. Big(s) who can score, huge rebounding advantage, and they don't turn opponents over.
Also - they shoot the 3 well, but not exceedingly well. And their schedule to date has been garbage.
I've only watched 2 of their games but i don't see anybody to be worried about. If jamorko & jagan (& Mac, Greg, Blair) can play half decent D against their wings, we should win this by double digits.
(Yes. I realize how we've played so far.)
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Dec 3, 2018 16:16:54 GMT -5
You're asking THAT dude that question? LOL. I mean any team ranked in the 90s has a chance to beat a team outside the top 40, particularly when playing in a virtual empty arena that gives the home team very little inspiration or advantage. Hoyasaxa2003 is acting as if the Hoyas will be playing a team in the 250s range in front of a sellout crowd and is disgusted by the very idea the game may be a tight affair. I am unhappy with the fact that playing Liberty University, in December, needs to be a game we are concerned about losing, at home. Yes, there is always a chance you can lose to a team ranked around 100. Stuff happens. That's not the issue; rather, the concern is that we lost to Loyola Marymount, we barely beat USF, and now we are only a small favorite against a Liberty team that very well might be better than us. To get back to my original point, which was ignored, I do think it's a problem if we need to play our "A" game to beat a 100-level opponent (other than DePaul, the rest of the Big East is way better, so if that's true we are in for a long season). Even Ewing said we played badly last game, so what about this is controversial? Can we get better? Sure, and I hope we do. If the board has gotten to the point where we are okay with being on par with Liberty University-level teams, then the program has certainly fallen from where it was. Your concerns about tonight's game are certainly legitimate. Our tendency to lose to mid-majors during III's last year's has us all gun -shy about games like this.
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Post by guru on Dec 3, 2018 16:27:48 GMT -5
Your argument would be more credible if your facts were straight. In fact, since at least 2002 (and probably further back), Georgetown has only gone into December once with a losing record once, in 2016 (2-3, and two of the losses were to good Maryland and Duke teams), and they were .500 once - in 2017, they were 4-4 (but again, 3 of the losses were to top 50 opponents). I am very happy we have won a bunch of games, but the fact is that losing to Loyola Marymount and almost losing to a 200-level USF team isn't exactly inspiring. I fully acknowledge we can improve and do better. I certainly hope that happens. There are definitely some really good bright spots - Akinjo's presence as a point guard, everything about Josh LeBlanc, better guard play, etc. But there are also others, like the defense, that aren't quite so positive. We will see how it shakes out. I was being hyperbolic about the records, those records are even worse than I expected... Don't try hyperbole or nuance in responding to 2003, unless you're interested in reading a kenpom regurgitation as a response. Actually, you'll get that anyway.
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Post by guru on Dec 3, 2018 16:29:10 GMT -5
You're asking THAT dude that question? LOL. I mean any team ranked in the 90s has a chance to beat a team outside the top 40, particularly when playing in a virtual empty arena that gives the home team very little inspiration or advantage. Hoyasaxa2003 is acting as if the Hoyas will be playing a team in the 250s range in front of a sellout crowd and is disgusted by the very idea the game may be a tight affair. I am unhappy with the fact that playing Liberty University, in December, needs to be a game we are concerned about losing, at home. Yes, there is always a chance you can lose to a team ranked around 100. Stuff happens. That's not the issue; rather, the concern is that we lost to Loyola Marymount, we barely beat USF, and now we are only a small favorite against a Liberty team that very well might be better than us. To get back to my original point, which was ignored, I do think it's a problem if we need to play our "A" game to beat a 100-level opponent (other than DePaul, the rest of the Big East is way better, so if that's true we are in for a long season). Even Ewing said we played badly last game, so what about this is controversial? Can we get better? Sure, and I hope we do. If the board has gotten to the point where we are okay with being on par with Liberty University-level teams, then the program has certainly fallen from where it was. shorter version: you wish we were playing better. see how easy that is?
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Post by hoyainla on Dec 3, 2018 17:44:32 GMT -5
If we lose tonight I think it would be a pretty bad loss. Not based on how good the teams are but based on them coming off their best game of the season and us with one even Pat was not happy with. You would have to imagine they practiced very hard and focused since last week. I would be very surprised if the Hoyas came out and laid an egg tonight. In fact I think they will come out strong. I am also hoping to see some coaching adjustments now that the analytics department has had time present their case (😏) but I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Dec 3, 2018 17:58:07 GMT -5
Malinowski replaces Pickett in the starting lineup
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Post by wponds on Dec 3, 2018 18:08:46 GMT -5
Not the lineup I would've done (James, Greg, Jamorko, LeBlanc, Govan), but I think (hopefully) Pickett will benefit from coming off the bench as the go-to guy for now. Similar to Peak a couple years back
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Post by hoyainla on Dec 3, 2018 18:31:25 GMT -5
These announcers are terrible and we are only 1 minute in.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Dec 3, 2018 18:32:08 GMT -5
Terrible decision not starting Pickett
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Post by hoyainla on Dec 3, 2018 18:32:37 GMT -5
Not the lineup I would've done (James, Greg, Jamorko, LeBlanc, Govan), but I think (hopefully) Pickett will benefit from coming off the bench as the go-to guy for now. Similar to Peak a couple years back A change was needed and I have been hammering the Greg to get more minutes/start drum since the Illinois game. That said this is not the (only) move I wouldve done.
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Post by This Just In on Dec 3, 2018 18:35:47 GMT -5
Team active on the offensive boards
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Post by BeantownHoya on Dec 3, 2018 18:35:47 GMT -5
It's incredible McClung can make mistake after mistake but his playing time is never impacted...way to be consistent Ewing...
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Post by This Just In on Dec 3, 2018 18:36:45 GMT -5
That Liberty player just powered thru the shot block attempt of Govan and Mourning at the same time...wow
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Post by This Just In on Dec 3, 2018 18:37:24 GMT -5
It's incredible McClung can make mistake after mistake but his playing time is never impacted...way to be consistent Ewing... Be careful as someone may call him a racist
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Post by prhoya on Dec 3, 2018 18:38:26 GMT -5
A lot of contact in Mac's drive to the basket... no call...
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Post by This Just In on Dec 3, 2018 18:39:23 GMT -5
Govan hot from the field so far 2/2 FGS for 5pts including a 3pt.
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