mdtd
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Post by mdtd on Dec 2, 2018 0:57:23 GMT -5
We are also due for a game where the outside shots fall. ๐๐๐ป Those would be needed for the game after this one. This game should be inside play through post ups and slashing. The Hoyas gotta be aggressive to win this one.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2018 11:34:24 GMT -5
Going to have to play our A game to win...
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Dec 2, 2018 17:25:07 GMT -5
Liberty destroyed 114th ranked Georgia State yesterday by 26. In fact, Liberty is now ranked ahead of us on KenPom (91 v 98). We are a slight favorite anyway because we are playing at home but, but this game is not going to be an easy one.
The fact that we need to play our A game to win this one simply demonstrates how weak the team is at this point. If we need to play our best to beat a 100-level opponent, at home, it's not a good omen for things to come in the Big East season.
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Post by sleepy on Dec 2, 2018 19:20:21 GMT -5
Liberty destroyed 114th ranked Georgia State yesterday by 26. In fact, Liberty is now ranked ahead of us on KenPom (91 v 98). We are a slight favorite anyway because we are playing at home but, but this game is not going to be an easy one. The fact that we need to play our A game to win this one simply demonstrates how weak the team is at this point. If we need to play our best to beat a 100-level opponent, at home, it's not a good omen for things to come in the Big East season. Can we tone down the theatrics a bit? It's December 1st. It's too early to know how most teams will shape up in a months time at this point, let alone two months time. It's fair when we are 2-4 or 3-5 going into December like the past, but the overall tone on this board has been over the top the last two weeks. Villanova also beat an 0-7 LaSalle team by 7 yesterday and needed their best game to pull that out. Should they consider that an omen for things to come in Big East season?
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Post by MCIGuy on Dec 2, 2018 21:06:34 GMT -5
Liberty destroyed 114th ranked Georgia State yesterday by 26. In fact, Liberty is now ranked ahead of us on KenPom (91 v 98). We are a slight favorite anyway because we are playing at home but, but this game is not going to be an easy one. The fact that we need to play our A game to win this one simply demonstrates how weak the team is at this point. If we need to play our best to beat a 100-level opponent, at home, it's not a good omen for things to come in the Big East season. Can we tone down the theatrics a bit? You're asking THAT dude that question? LOL. I mean any team ranked in the 90s has a chance to beat a team outside the top 40, particularly when playing in a virtual empty arena that gives the home team very little inspiration or advantage. Hoyasaxa2003 is acting as if the Hoyas will be playing a team in the 250s range in front of a sellout crowd and is disgusted by the very idea the game may be a tight affair.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Dec 2, 2018 21:12:54 GMT -5
Honestly I'm glad we played poorly in the Richmond game and that Pat is going to put them through the wringer but this game is a prime spot for an upset with Cuse game later and the weak and a sneaky good opponent. Hopefully Pat got their attention this weekend.
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Post by HamptonHoya on Dec 2, 2018 22:32:53 GMT -5
Can we tone down the theatrics a bit? You're asking THAT dude that question? LOL. I mean any team ranked in the 90s has a chance to beat a team outside the top 40, particularly when playing in a virtual empty arena that gives the home team very little inspiration or advantage. Hoyasaxa2003 is acting as if the Hoyas will be playing a team in the 250s range in front of a sellout crowd and is disgusted by the very idea the game may be a tight affair. This is funny stuff. I think I may stay around.
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Post by ewingitrust on Dec 2, 2018 22:41:44 GMT -5
Whether we win by 5,15 or 25 points. A win is a win. Some folks on here are too caught up in the style points. I see a team when pushed, pushing back...i see a resilient team...a team that doesn't give up. The LMU game was a fluke...they were on an emotional high from the Illinois game. We have flaws, but coach ewing is molding the mental makeup of this team. The on the court execution will improve...i suspect the team we see tomorrow night is the team we'll see going forward. Just win Hoyas!
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Post by LCPolo18 on Dec 2, 2018 23:11:46 GMT -5
Whether we win by 5,15 or 25 points. A win is a win. Some folks on here are too caught up in the style points. I see a team when pushed, pushing back...i see a resilient team...a team that doesn't give up. The LMU game was a fluke...they were on an emotional high from the Illinois game. We have flaws, but coach ewing is molding the mental makeup of this team. The on the court execution will improve...i suspect the team we see tomorrow night is the team we'll see going forward. Just win Hoyas! While I agree with you, technically our NET ranking improves if we win by 15-25 rather than 5. But yeah, winning is the first step and hopefully the team is working on improving their ability to do that consistently.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Dec 3, 2018 1:44:37 GMT -5
Can we tone down the theatrics a bit? It's December 1st. It's too early to know how most teams will shape up in a months time at this point, let alone two months time. It's fair when we are 2-4 or 3-5 going into December like the past, but the overall tone on this board has been over the top the last two weeks. Your argument would be more credible if your facts were straight. In fact, since at least 2002 (and probably further back), Georgetown has only gone into December once with a losing record once, in 2016 (2-3, and two of the losses were to good Maryland and Duke teams), and they were .500 once - in 2017, they were 4-4 (but again, 3 of the losses were to top 50 opponents). I am very happy we have won a bunch of games, but the fact is that losing to Loyola Marymount and almost losing to a 200-level USF team isn't exactly inspiring. I fully acknowledge we can improve and do better. I certainly hope that happens. There are definitely some really good bright spots - Akinjo's presence as a point guard, everything about Josh LeBlanc, better guard play, etc. But there are also others, like the defense, that aren't quite so positive. We will see how it shakes out.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Dec 3, 2018 1:48:17 GMT -5
Can we tone down the theatrics a bit? You're asking THAT dude that question? LOL. I mean any team ranked in the 90s has a chance to beat a team outside the top 40, particularly when playing in a virtual empty arena that gives the home team very little inspiration or advantage. Hoyasaxa2003 is acting as if the Hoyas will be playing a team in the 250s range in front of a sellout crowd and is disgusted by the very idea the game may be a tight affair. I am unhappy with the fact that playing Liberty University, in December, needs to be a game we are concerned about losing, at home. Yes, there is always a chance you can lose to a team ranked around 100. Stuff happens. That's not the issue; rather, the concern is that we lost to Loyola Marymount, we barely beat USF, and now we are only a small favorite against a Liberty team that very well might be better than us. To get back to my original point, which was ignored, I do think it's a problem if we need to play our "A" game to beat a 100-level opponent (other than DePaul, the rest of the Big East is way better, so if that's true we are in for a long season). Even Ewing said we played badly last game, so what about this is controversial? Can we get better? Sure, and I hope we do. If the board has gotten to the point where we are okay with being on par with Liberty University-level teams, then the program has certainly fallen from where it was.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 3, 2018 2:20:12 GMT -5
Would people be freaking out if we were worried about losing to Pitt, UConn or Stanford? How about Utah, South Carolina or Wichita St.?
Liberty is a good team, perhaps better than our team has played. Just because they are called Liberty shouldn't make this more of a game we should win.
Yes, we'd all love the Hoyas to be much better than the roughly #100 team they've looked like so far. They aren't there yet, but facing Liberty is basically like facing a bottom of the BE team.
Which may be us right now. I'm not sure anyone should be shocked given that we are incorporating three talented freshmen, lost a player to the NBA draft, and two of our player most talented players are sophomores.
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Post by seaweed on Dec 3, 2018 5:37:50 GMT -5
Beat the heretics
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Dec 3, 2018 7:39:37 GMT -5
We are good, not great. There are a lot of good players and teams in Division 1 basketball. We go up against unhyped players every game that could help our team.
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Post by calhoya on Dec 3, 2018 8:04:00 GMT -5
Truth is that no one knows what this team is yet. I still believe in the talent but talent alone does not make a team. The early games have been frustrating to watch. Although Liberty is a decent team and their coach will have them play disciplined, the Hoyas clearly have more talent. The fact that the Hoyas are now an afterthought for the sports community in Washington plus an early Monday night game guarantees that the "crowd" will not be a factor tonight.
The key is to see how the coach and kids react and grow, starting tonight. Who cares about Syracuse? This team is not yet good enough to look ahead. Ewing needs to continue to shorten the leash on everyone, when selfish play replaces team ball.
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Post by NCHoya on Dec 3, 2018 9:46:29 GMT -5
Tonight style points do not matter, just win the game. I have been a critic of the way the Hoyas have played this first month, but Liberty is playing well regardless of talent level, it will be a solid win if we can get it. I will be happy to step off the ledge and tone down my theatrics if the Hoyas can get this one.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Dec 3, 2018 10:24:17 GMT -5
Gtown is 5 point favorites for what it's worth...
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Post by This Just In on Dec 3, 2018 10:34:04 GMT -5
Gtown is 5 point favorites for what it's worth... I am taking the points and the over this should be a tight high scoring game.
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 3, 2018 10:50:34 GMT -5
Gtown is 5 point favorites for what it's worth... I am taking the points and the over this should be a tight high scoring game. We're winning by 20 in a blowout!!!!
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Dec 3, 2018 11:56:19 GMT -5
The pacing of this game should be interesting. Our adjusted tempo is 31 of 353, whereas Liberty's is 334. Our average possession length on offense is 15.8 (52nd ranked), whereas Liberty's is 19.2 (330th ranked). I have not seen Liberty play, but based on those stats, it seems like they must be very deliberate on offense.
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