TC
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Post by TC on Nov 2, 2019 8:45:23 GMT -5
You are correct and we will never know. The Program will never dignify naysayers with a response bother to explain anything to its fans. Fixed
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Nov 2, 2019 8:51:47 GMT -5
Wondering whether there are privacy concerns regarding Mr Walker that hamstring the program with regard to any statement.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Nov 2, 2019 8:59:45 GMT -5
No doubt that is the case.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Nov 2, 2019 9:00:32 GMT -5
The debate over this matter boggles my mind. I am waiting for Esh and III to be blamed somehow.
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Post by tashoya on Nov 2, 2019 9:12:13 GMT -5
Good luck to Antwan. I'm not losing any sleep over this one. I feel far worse for Rasheem Dunn.
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Post by seaweed on Nov 2, 2019 10:23:04 GMT -5
He ghucked up and now he pays the consequences. No business even asking for a waiver when it was his own bad conduct that cost both schools a chance to use a scholarship on an eligible student. All on him
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 2, 2019 10:54:27 GMT -5
But if a school is salty about the kid leaving(See the AD from Cleveland State) they can hinder his/her chance to play immediately... Players shouldn't be at the mercy of a former program imo... I never said the NCAA should base their decision on what the previous school/AD said but they do have to inquire. Like I said in my previous statement, both Walker & Steere should be allowed to play otherwise they are being penalized a semesters worth (10 games or so) of games. In Steere's case, since he played a game at NC State, suspend him for the first game at St. John's to even it out. No need to penalize the student athletes x amount of games. Having to transfer and not play a season is penalty enough. Why? Look at the Cleveland State situation, they fired their entire coaching staff in July but then still get a say in a kids transfer request? That doesn't make sense to me... The fact that Gtown possibly had something to do with Walker being denied isn't a good look in my view...
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 2, 2019 10:55:25 GMT -5
He ghucked up and now he pays the consequences. No business even asking for a waiver when it was his own bad conduct that cost both schools a chance to use a scholarship on an eligible student. All on him Do you like the alleged reports that Gtown made negative comments on Walker's behalf? I don't, it makes the program/PE look petty. Meanwhile, Calipari looks like a hero when both Baker(Arizona) & Green(Washington) had their waivers approved... I say keep the previous schools out of it...
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 2, 2019 11:03:11 GMT -5
Meanwhile, Calipari looks like a hero Wow, never thought I would see THAT phrase in a sentence. Guess marketing IS everything.
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Nov 2, 2019 11:11:32 GMT -5
I never said the NCAA should base their decision on what the previous school/AD said but they do have to inquire. Like I said in my previous statement, both Walker & Steere should be allowed to play otherwise they are being penalized a semesters worth (10 games or so) of games. In Steere's case, since he played a game at NC State, suspend him for the first game at St. John's to even it out. No need to penalize the student athletes x amount of games. Having to transfer and not play a season is penalty enough. Why? Look at the Cleveland State situation, they fired their entire coaching staff in July but then still get a say in a kids transfer request? That doesn't make sense to me... The fact that Gtown possibly had something to do with Walker being denied isn't a good look in my view... 1. For the 3rd time, the NCAA shouldn't base their decision on what the student-athlete former athletic department has to say but they do have to have all the facts. What if credible evidence of tampering by the student athletes new school exist? 2. Not every transfer situation is like Rasheem Dunn's at Cleveland State. I also agree that he should be eligible. Out of all the waiver request, his is the easiest decision and the NCAA looks like idiots for declining his waiver (so far). 3. Lastly, did anybody consider the source that is alleging Georgetown is the reason Walker isn't immediately eligible. Goodman's history with Georgetown has never been good and even worse under the Coach Ewing administration. Remember he was pimping Chris Mack hard for the job before they hired Coach Ewing. Then he poo-poed all over the hire of Coach Ewing every chance he got for over a year. No other media outlet is alleging any improper actions on part of the Hoyas program in regards to Walker's eligibility...
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 2, 2019 11:19:38 GMT -5
Meanwhile, Calipari looks like a hero Wow, never thought I would see THAT phrase in a sentence. Guess marketing IS everything. Exactly my point! UK fans are beating their chests because of tweets like these...
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 2, 2019 11:21:01 GMT -5
Wow, never thought I would see THAT phrase in a sentence. Guess marketing IS everything. Exactly my point! UK fans are beating their chests because of tweets like these... Well, the bar IS low in Lexington...
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Post by prhoya on Nov 2, 2019 11:24:26 GMT -5
Exactly my point! UK fans are beating their chests because of tweets like these... Well, the bar IS low in Lexington... The faster he gets them out of there, the quicker he has a scholarship available.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Nov 2, 2019 11:27:28 GMT -5
Wow, never thought I would see THAT phrase in a sentence. Guess marketing IS everything. Exactly my point! UK fans are beating their chests because of tweets like these... Your falling for the SPIN... Car salesman Cal lied to them to get them to commit and then ran them off for "better players" coming in. Now he's using this to hide/clean up his seedy deceptive recruiting tactics. Quade Green & Baker are the definition of players being ran off...
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Post by HometownHoya on Nov 2, 2019 11:33:56 GMT -5
Chances are Cal was being honest: "I recruited over them and they would never play here". I doubt Pat would have said the same since Antwan was slated to play minutes, instead Mourning got about double he would have (got him to the G-League though). To my knowledge, none of the fighting rumors had ever been verified but I assume that the AD was upfront and transparent about whatever did happen with Antwan while he was here.
Not going to touch on the greater issues of transfers.
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 2, 2019 11:41:31 GMT -5
Why? Look at the Cleveland State situation, they fired their entire coaching staff in July but then still get a say in a kids transfer request? That doesn't make sense to me... The fact that Gtown possibly had something to do with Walker being denied isn't a good look in my view... 1. For the 3rd time, the NCAA shouldn't base their decision on what the student-athlete former athletic department has to say but they do have to have all the facts. What if credible evidence of tampering by the student athletes new school exist? 2. Not every transfer situation is like Rasheem Dunn's at Cleveland State. I also agree that he should be eligible. Out of all the waiver request, his is the easiest decision and the NCAA looks like idiots for declining his waiver (so far). 3. Lastly, did anybody consider the source that is alleging Georgetown is the reason Walker isn't immediately eligible. Goodman's history with Georgetown had never been good and even so worse under the Coach Ewing administration. Remember he was pimping Chris Mack hard for the job before they hired Coach Ewing. Then he poo-poed all over the hire of Coach Ewing every chance he got for over a year. No other media outlet is alleging any improper actions on part of the Hoyas program in regards to Walker's eligibility... If URI tampered with Walker Gtown should have reported that soon after the kid put his name in the portal, same goes for any other school. Possible tampering is a different discussion imo... The process seems to require the NCAA to speak with the previous school, with that comes the opportunities for bad decisions to be made, that's my point here...
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 2, 2019 11:43:07 GMT -5
Well, the bar IS low in Lexington... The faster he gets them out of there, the quicker he has a scholarship available. Another post that helps my argument that the previous schools should be left out of the waiver process...
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Post by seaweed on Nov 2, 2019 12:11:02 GMT -5
He ghucked up and now he pays the consequences. No business even asking for a waiver when it was his own bad conduct that cost both schools a chance to use a scholarship on an eligible student. All on him Do you like the alleged reports that Gtown made negative comments on Walker's behalf? I don't, it makes the program/PE look petty. Meanwhile, Calipari looks like a hero when both Baker(Arizona) & Green(Washington) had their waivers approved... I say keep the previous schools out of it... As for the comments, a) consider the source and b) if you tell the NCAA or other schools the truth about what happened, any ‘negativity’ in the comments comes from the nature of the behavior being discussed, not the attitude of the speaker. Sometimes, the truth hurts
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 2, 2019 12:27:48 GMT -5
Do you like the alleged reports that Gtown made negative comments on Walker's behalf? I don't, it makes the program/PE look petty. Meanwhile, Calipari looks like a hero when both Baker(Arizona) & Green(Washington) had their waivers approved... I say keep the previous schools out of it... As for the comments, a) consider the source and b) if you tell the NCAA or other schools the truth about what happened, any ‘negativity’ in the comments comes from the nature of the behavior being discussed, not the attitude of the speaker. Sometimes, the truth hurts Forget about Goodman, a poster in the URI link TC posted was saying Gtown wasn't being "cooperative" well before Goodman made his tweet... You didn't answer my question btw but I get why you didn't, sometimes the truth hurts...
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Nov 2, 2019 12:43:17 GMT -5
There is 0 reason for Gtown to "restrict" him being eligible right away. More than likely it's what someone posted above that they told the truth that he got kicked off the team for fighting. It's irresponsible reporting (shocking from Goodman) to insinuate there was anything intentionally done to keep him from getting a waiver without any backup. Sadly it now looks bad on us.
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