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Post by DFW HOYA on Aug 7, 2019 12:45:42 GMT -5
A little darn early to release the schedule for me- I am of the school that Big John was not cloak and dagger enough- but overall a solid schedule. Not cloak and dagger enough? There was a time Georgetown wouldn't release schedules until mid-October, leaving Street & Smith's and the Sporting News to regularly leave Georgetown's schedule blank in the back of their annuals. Bill Shapland would literally drop off a handful of schedules after an athletics banquet as the announcement.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 13:05:59 GMT -5
KenPom ranks from last year: Nov 6 Mount St. Mary's -- 324 Nov 9 Central Arkansas -- 302 Nov 14 Penn State -- 43 Nov 17 Georgia State -- 124 Nov 21 Texas (N) -- 25 Nov 22 Duke/Cal (N) -- 4/241 Nov 30 UNC Greensboro -- 87 Dec 4 Oklahoma State (A) -- 83 Dec 7 SMU (A) -- 107 Dec 14 Syracuse -- 39 Dec 17 UMBC -- 230 Dec 21 Samford -- 144 Dec 28 American -- 200 - No MEACs (!) - Only 2 300+ teams (and both were VERY young last year) - That Duke/Cal difference probably won't be AS big this year, but will still be significant. Gotta beat Texas. - If you're gonna play those 200 level games, it might as well be locals like American & UMBC. - Last year's avg KenPom rank for OOC games was 177.8 - This year's schedule would've been 131.7 (vs Duke) or 149.9 (vs Cal) BTW - the average from '17-'18 was 267.8 !! Also - Texas had the 99th toughest OOC schedule last year and their average opponent was 140.5). It'd be nice to be back in the top third nationally. (Don't bother mentioning the math here. This is for ballpark novelty only.)
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Post by lichoya68 on Aug 7, 2019 13:47:43 GMT -5
like the schedule up grade better teams and games WATCH OUT FOR LOCAL AU yup beat pats team the year they won the whole thing i things go hoyas now must WIN meanarywayup yup seven newbies four seven {about{} seven footers yup win one by one by at least on adn hope we get toplay AND beat DUKE and CUSE go hoyas
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Post by LCPolo18 on Aug 7, 2019 14:38:07 GMT -5
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Aug 7, 2019 14:43:08 GMT -5
Good analysis. Looks like this year's schedule is a modest upgrade, but not a killer. Probably just where it needs to be given our trajectory. Modest upgrade? This is a MASSIVE upgrade. Just from the marquee games alone it's a massive upgrade; mix that with the "buy" games they scheduled they're wayyyyy better than in years past. I'm really happy with this. I will venture to say that all those teams on the schedule will have better numbers than last year and this is easily a top 30 SOS when the season ends Yes, the comparison data provided above shows that the OOC upgrade represents a modest jump in SOS. Also as stated above, the 99th strongest OOC schedule last year featured teams that averaged ~140 ranking. We should slot in that area. That's top third. A very nice OOC, but not killer. And a modest uptick over last year. Final SOS will be heavily dependent, too, on the strength of the Big East conference, which I believe was down a bit last year compared to prior years. We need the conference to bounce back a bit.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Aug 7, 2019 14:55:54 GMT -5
Modest upgrade? This is a MASSIVE upgrade. Just from the marquee games alone it's a massive upgrade; mix that with the "buy" games they scheduled they're wayyyyy better than in years past. I'm really happy with this. I will venture to say that all those teams on the schedule will have better numbers than last year and this is easily a top 30 SOS when the season ends Yes, the comparison data provided above shows that the OOC upgrade represents a modest jump in SOS. Also as stated above, the 99th strongest OOC schedule last year featured teams that averaged ~140 ranking. We should slot in that area. That's top third. A very nice OOC, but not killer. And a modest uptick over last year. Final SOS will be heavily dependent, too, on the strength of the Big East conference, which I believe was down a bit last year compared to prior years. We need the conference to bounce back a bit. That's still a massive upgrade over Georgetown's non-conference SOS last season (292 on KenPom, 242 on RPI).
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Aug 7, 2019 15:36:58 GMT -5
A little darn early to release the schedule for me- I am of the school that Big John was not cloak and dagger enough- but overall a solid schedule. Not cloak and dagger enough? There was a time Georgetown wouldn't release schedules until mid-October, leaving Street & Smith's and the Sporting News to regularly leave Georgetown's schedule blank in the back of their annuals. Bill Shapland would literally drop off a handful of schedules after an athletics banquet as the announcement. THE GOOD OLE' DAYS!!!
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Post by MCIGuy on Aug 7, 2019 18:30:47 GMT -5
Wish Ewing included Memphis. I think this team can more than hang with the Tigers.
Notre Dame is on the schedule starting next season, right? And of course two games with UConn.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 7, 2019 20:48:23 GMT -5
A little darn early to release the schedule for me- I am of the school that Big John was not cloak and dagger enough- but overall a solid schedule. Not cloak and dagger enough? There was a time Georgetown wouldn't release schedules until mid-October, leaving Street & Smith's and the Sporting News to regularly leave Georgetown's schedule blank in the back of their annuals. Bill Shapland would literally drop off a handful of schedules after an athletics banquet as the announcement. People can be insufferable about transparency. Give me a locked McDonough, no access to the players, a schedule released on November 1 and 3 finals appearances in 4 years.
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Post by blueandgray on Aug 8, 2019 1:03:09 GMT -5
Love the early December slate ...a string of 3 or 4 meaningful games in a row.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Aug 8, 2019 9:34:14 GMT -5
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Aug 8, 2019 12:56:48 GMT -5
Given how outspoken I have been on the schedule in the past, I want to recognize that Ewing put together a schedule this season that is a much better, stronger, schedule that should put the Hoyas in a much better position to compete this coming season for an NCAA bid. Unlike last year, Syracuse will not be the only opportunity for a marquee win, and it will be even better if we can beat Texas and have a shot at Duke, plus I love that we have a number of very winnable games with opponents in the 200s, and only two in the 300s.
Hopefully, the trend of playing in better November tournaments will continue as well. I know there is some confusion as to whether we play in the Battle of Atlantis next season, but we are also now eligible for the Maui Invitational, and I'd love to see us there soon. Providence is already in the 2020 Maui field, but I'm hoping we will be in the 2021 field.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Aug 8, 2019 15:08:03 GMT -5
Given how outspoken I have been on the schedule in the past, I want to recognize that Ewing put together a schedule this season that is a much better, stronger, schedule that should put the Hoyas in a much better position to compete this coming season for an NCAA bid. Unlike last year, Syracuse will not be the only opportunity for a marquee win, and it will be even better if we can beat Texas and have a shot at Duke, plus I love that we have a number of very winnable games with opponents in the 200s, and only two in the 300s. Hopefully, the trend of playing in better November tournaments will continue as well. I know there is some confusion as to whether we play in the Battle of Atlantis next season, but we are also now eligible for the Maui Invitational, and I'd love to see us there soon. Providence is already in the 2020 Maui field, but I'm hoping we will be in the 2021 field. I agree that I am happy with the schedule upgrade and congratulate Ewing as well. However, Coach Pat's scheduling in years 1 and 2 was entirely appropriate given the strength of his own squad. I think he's done an excellent job of scheduling so far in all 3 seasons. The weak year 1 schedule, improved year 2 schedule, and now the improved year 3 schedule was strategic and by design.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Aug 8, 2019 15:51:15 GMT -5
I agree that I am happy with the schedule upgrade and congratulate Ewing as well. However, Coach Pat's scheduling in years 1 and 2 was entirely appropriate given the strength of his own squad. I think he's done an excellent job of scheduling so far in all 3 seasons. The weak year 1 schedule, improved year 2 schedule, and now the improved year 3 schedule was strategic and by design. I disagree, especially on Year 1 (which was a historically bad OOC schedule, and we were not bad enough to warrant a temporary move into MEAC/SWAC), but that's a tired topic that is irrelevant now that Ewing has scheduled better. The Year 3 schedule is a better one and hopefully that continues going forward, especially since we expect to have competitive teams. My sort of unscientific rule is: does your OOC schedule and strength of schedule give you a chance to make the NCAA tournament with a 9-9 conference record? If the answer is yes, you have a good chance to make it if your team is good. If the answer is no, you're basically scheduling yourself out of the tournament, unless your team is really, really, good. I think that this year's schedule achieves that goal by giving us lots of chances to get decent/good wins, while still giving us ample opportunity to tune up and win some games against more modest competition. I am looking forward to the season beginning in November (but not looking forward to winter).
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Post by guru on Aug 8, 2019 16:07:35 GMT -5
I agree that I am happy with the schedule upgrade and congratulate Ewing as well. However, Coach Pat's scheduling in years 1 and 2 was entirely appropriate given the strength of his own squad. I think he's done an excellent job of scheduling so far in all 3 seasons. The weak year 1 schedule, improved year 2 schedule, and now the improved year 3 schedule was strategic and by design. I disagree, especially on Year 1 (which was a historically bad OOC schedule, and we were not bad enough to warrant a temporary move into MEAC/SWAC), but that's a tired topic that is irrelevant now that Ewing has scheduled better. The Year 3 schedule is a better one and hopefully that continues going forward, especially since we expect to have competitive teams. My sort of unscientific rule is: does your OOC schedule and strength of schedule give you a chance to make the NCAA tournament with a 9-9 conference record? If the answer is yes, you have a good chance to make it if your team is good. If the answer is no, you're basically scheduling yourself out of the tournament, unless your team is really, really, good. I think that this year's schedule achieves that goal by giving us lots of chances to get decent/good wins, while still giving us ample opportunity to tune up and win some games against more modest competition. I am looking forward to the season beginning in November (but not looking forward to winter). Wow. I come on here for the first time in months and this poster is STILL complaining about the schedule from 2 years ago. Please - learn another song. For God’s sake.
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Post by professorhoya on Aug 8, 2019 17:19:32 GMT -5
I disagree, especially on Year 1 (which was a historically bad OOC schedule, and we were not bad enough to warrant a temporary move into MEAC/SWAC), but that's a tired topic that is irrelevant now that Ewing has scheduled better. The Year 3 schedule is a better one and hopefully that continues going forward, especially since we expect to have competitive teams. My sort of unscientific rule is: does your OOC schedule and strength of schedule give you a chance to make the NCAA tournament with a 9-9 conference record? If the answer is yes, you have a good chance to make it if your team is good. If the answer is no, you're basically scheduling yourself out of the tournament, unless your team is really, really, good. I think that this year's schedule achieves that goal by giving us lots of chances to get decent/good wins, while still giving us ample opportunity to tune up and win some games against more modest competition. I am looking forward to the season beginning in November (but not looking forward to winter). Wow. I come on here for the first time in months and this poster is STILL complaining about the schedule from 2 years ago. Please - learn another song. For God’s sake. The irony is that 2003 posted today for the 1st time in months AS well. What are The odds of that happening. Welcome back to both of you.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Aug 8, 2019 19:27:18 GMT -5
Wow. I come on here for the first time in months and this poster is STILL complaining about the schedule from 2 years ago. Please - learn another song. For God’s sake. The irony is that 2003 posted today for the 1st time in months AS well. What are The odds of that happening. Welcome back to both of you. I wasn’t complaining and not the one who brought up the first two years. In fact, the opposite. I said positive things about Ewing and his schedule. Is it too much to ask some people to read it? In fact, part of the reason I wanted to post for the first time in while (though never stopped reading daily) was because I was very happy with the schedule. But I should have known better that a specific poster who has a weird obsession with me has probably been waiting all summer for me to post to interject the typical ad hominem garbage. Frankly, this is a good reminder why I was lurking for the last few months rather than wasting time with certain people looking for a fight rather than talking Hoyas basketball. I’m happy with the schedule and look forward to a good season, always willing to engage in a meaningful dialogue but no longer willing to be a part of the nonsense.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 9, 2019 9:33:42 GMT -5
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Post by LCPolo18 on Aug 9, 2019 10:29:49 GMT -5
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Post by DallasHoya on Aug 9, 2019 11:01:43 GMT -5
Does anyone know the level of donation required for eligibility for buying away game tickets from GU? Are there different levels for better seats? I tried calling the phone number on the Athletics Department website, but no one answered and there was no way to leave a message.
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