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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Feb 14, 2018 8:15:10 GMT -5
Just ask yourself this, do our current guards deter opponents from shooting threes? A small pesky guard is an opposing guard’s worst nightmare. We assume we come out ahead factoring any heigh differential- that’s why we are on him. AI was too small to play in the NBA, I recall. Truth!
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Post by dchoya72 on Feb 14, 2018 8:19:22 GMT -5
Who are you guys arguing with? We are, and I am particularly arguing for the staff to go to NYC and tell M arkquiz Nowell, young man we want you to be a Hoya, come to Georgetown and run our team, come get a great education, be a significant part of the resurging Hoyas. Come live and breathe in Washington, DC, the greatest city in the world (He could argue with that, but not for long once he visits) and have a great basketball experience. Tell him he can be a key part of what we're going to do in the next four year, we're gonna play fast and hard, and we're not going to take no for an answer. We are going to try to win a national championship. For the cherry on top, ensure that #3 is in to the building for a visit to his Alma mater (sp).
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Post by dchoya72 on Feb 14, 2018 8:23:23 GMT -5
I just watched the videos again... Many times we watch prospects dunk, or show ball handling skills in drills. These tapes show him in action being intrepid, relentless, creative, beating defenses. Getting inside, in the lane, dishing off, and shooting. His head is up watching everything, directing the team, and he and the ball are one. What are we looking for in a point guard?.....I believe he has it! Please dont compare him to Trey Dickerson, or maybe, do so. Glad we're looking. Dickerson is a NYC kid as well. LOL.. Glide I take nothing away from Dickerson, he is showing now why Patrick recruited him. He is showing some of the stuff that was in his highlight video. He's playing like a prototypical NYC point guard. Nowell has that type game+plus!
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Feb 14, 2018 8:31:22 GMT -5
After Muggsy came Shawnta Rogers and Kevin Norris. I was at this game when Rogers hit the game winner vs. Xavier. Bonzie Colson gave me tickets to attend. I went down the court to congratulate Shawnta. We are still friends til this day! What a gameeeee! Look at Shawnta's son! Heart over height Just like his pop's but smaller 5'2" Shawnta's other son Terrell Rogers played at Delaware All-City/Met his teammate was another sick point guard who's teammate in high school Dunbar's rivalry Lake Clifton Kevin Norris who was responsible for FGCU's point guard Bret Comer's point guard play vs. Hoyas in the NCAA's! Went on the USA now at UCF! hoopdirt.com/kevin-norris-named-assistant-basketball-coach-at-ucf/ Kevin played for the Miami Hurricanes. He was only 5'9" if that. articles.baltimoresun.com/1998-01-17/sports/1998017036_1_hemsley-kevin-norris-miami "That's just the mentality it appears those kids on the playgrounds of Baltimore seem to develop if they're going to survive every day," Miami coach Leonard Hamilton said. "It's nothing new to them." The contributions of Norris, the school's all-time assists leader 00 with 428, and Hemsley, Miami's second-leading scorer at 14.4 points per game, have helped the Hurricanes to one of the best starts in the nation. Norris, a first-team All-Metro selection each of his final three years at Lake Clifton, was a nonqualifier out of high school and attended Maine Central Institute before going to Miami. Once at Miami, it didn't take him long to establish himself. He started 23 games as a freshman in the 1994-95 season and was named to the Big East All-Rookie Team. Nickname was "Stink."
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Feb 14, 2018 8:37:04 GMT -5
Dickerson is a NYC kid as well. LOL.. Glide I take nothing away from Dickerson, he is showing now why Patrick recruited him. He is showing some of the stuff that was in his highlight video. He's playing like a prototypical NYC point guard. Nowell has that type game+plus! Exactly why I posted this. I went to high school in Baltimore with Wingate and saw Muggsy, Williams play.. did you watch the 30 for 30 Baltimore Boys. If you didn't pls do. Also read this book you'll find out a whole lot about Williams and Wingate along with their teammates Muggsy and company! SUPER DUPER READ! www.amazon.com/Boys-Dunbar-Story-Love-Basketball/dp/1451666977
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Feb 14, 2018 8:46:32 GMT -5
Hoyacane, man do you make me smile. I'm 5'9.5" and played ball in hs....nothing great at all, I played pg, and love the game. When JTIII came to Gtown, he brought Michael Riley from Cardoza HS, who was a defensive wizard, quick, fast and dangerous. One of his nemisis was a fellow named Victor Kelly, a 5-6 NYC transfer at Western HS, and a student/understudy of Tiny Archibald. Victor was quick, fast, could jump high, shoot jumpers with both hands (no kidding), and a fan of Jerry West. He too was dangerous! Riley and Victor had some lightening encounters!!! The kind of stuff you would wish was video recorded. I see that kind of excitement in Markquiz...I've seen Chris Lykes plenty of times and he was and is a thrill to watch. If we got Markquiz, I believe we would be happy. On film he plays like whatever we've been looking for in Trey Dickerson, who has been rising to the occassion. We'll see what happens, but I would go after him...we're going to recruit and attract height, but can we get controlled lightening and saavy...just my thoughts@ lol, glad that made you smile. I'll be smiling too if we can land this kid. I played point too, and it's just frustrating watching us blow leads game after game. The only similarities this kid has to Dickerson is his size and his ability to penetrate. He's much better than Dickerson though because he can actually shoot, score at the basket, has better vision, and he plays under control, unlike Dickerson. He would work well with Mac and others. Our big men would love this kid. Just saying.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Feb 14, 2018 9:34:23 GMT -5
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Feb 14, 2018 12:58:46 GMT -5
The “I’d rather have a tall PG who sucks” crowd, I guess. I hope you don't identify me in that crowd. I made the statement that Ewing will need to consider, as one factor among many, a short PG's ability to defend the 3-point line. And that seemed to set people off for some reason. If Ewing feels that the kid can do everything else at an elite level (dribble, hops, speed, feed post, feed shooters, shoot, drive the lane, dish, finish at the rim in traffic, hit FTs, control tempo, stay in front of his man, anticipate well for ball handling/passing steals, etc.) then of course the one factor I highlighted is mitigated and you go "all-in." I've been posting recently about Chris Lykes with the intent to show that he was a short PG recruit that had such elite capabilities in other areas of his game that you take the risk of him not defending the 3 adequately against taller shooters. And now he's making an impact at Miami as a freshman. I really wanted Lykes to be a Hoya. Unfortunately, his recruitment came one year too early for Ewing to make his pitch. If Nowell possesses Lykes' unique combination of skills, then clearly he is someone we should consider.
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Post by njcoach on Feb 15, 2018 11:04:27 GMT -5
Are you kidding me? I love this kid. He's exactly what we need at the point. He has an excellent handle, he can finish despite his size, he can shoot, break a defense down by himself, great passer, creates space and a shot for himself in one on one, plays defense, and can create easy baskets for others. He's exactly what we DON'T have and really need. Please sign this kid!!! Hoyacane, man do you make me smile. I'm 5'9.5" and played ball in hs....nothing great at all, I played pg, and love the game. When Big John Thompson came to Gtown, he brought Michael Riley from Cardoza HS, who was a defensive wizard, quick, fast and dangerous. One of his nemisis was a fellow named Victor Kelly, a 5-6 NYC transfer at Western HS, and a student/understudy of Tiny Archibald. Victor was quick, fast, could jump high, shoot jumpers with both hands (no kidding), and a fan of Jerry West. He too was dangerous! Riley and Victor had some lightening encounters!!! The kind of stuff you would wish was video recorded. I see that kind of excitement in Markquiz...I've seen Chris Lykes plenty of times and he was and is a thrill to watch. If we got Markquiz, I believe we would be happy. On film he plays like whatever we've been looking for in Trey Dickerson, who has been rising to the occassion. We'll see what happens, but I would go after him...we're going to recruit and attract height, but can we get controlled lightening and saavy...just my thoughts@ Boy, you made ME smile, DC. "Fast and dangerous"... perfect description of Riley. So-so scorer, but IMO, any college team can uses a disruptor-floor general-press breaker like Riley, whether starting or coming off the bench. He was all of 5'9", but I saw him jump and grab the rim from a flat-footed stance. Crazy. Sounds like this Nowell kid is a better scorer. Love to see it happen.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 15, 2018 11:12:08 GMT -5
Who are you guys arguing with? We are, and I am particularly arguing for the staff to go to NYC and tell M arkquiz Nowell, young man we want you to be a Hoya, come to Georgetown and run our team, come get a great education, be a significant part of the resurging Hoyas. Come live and breathe in Washington, DC, the greatest city in the world (He could argue with that, but not for long once he visits) and have a great basketball experience. Tell him he can be a key part of what we're going to do in the next four year, we're gonna play fast and hard, and we're not going to take no for an answer. We are going to try to win a national championship. For the cherry on top, ensure that #3 is in to the building for a visit to his Alma mater (sp). Continue on. I just found it amusing that three of you were arguing elabrotately with no one. Good luck, though I doubt the staff ever visits here. Height in a guard is really, really important for the NBA. It's not so true in college. Small guards generally get destroyed defensively in the pros, but in college, no one really backs you down, you don't get switched on LeBron or Durant or something, and in general, you aren't competing against players to whom the difference in a contest two inches higher is all that difference. There's still issues for some of the players in finishing in traffic, but it's wildly overstated in college because it is really important in the pros. In fact, you could argue that a truly talented small guard is better than a truly talented tall guard because the former will stay in college longer.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 11:45:59 GMT -5
I like him, but I've watched him plenty of times and think you guys are overhyping him a bit... I also think there's 0 chance he ends up here. I think Pat is looking for a kid that can play both guard spots based on who he has offered (Doutrive, Wash, Pinson, Mitchell etc.. ) Either way I'll be rooting for him and think he'll be successful wherever he ends up.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Feb 15, 2018 12:00:59 GMT -5
I like him, but I've watched him plenty of times and think you guys are overhyping him a bit... I also think there's 0 chance he ends up here. I think Pat is looking for a kid that can play both guard spots based on who he has offered (Doutrive, Wash, Pinson, Mitchell etc.. ) Either way I'll be rooting for him and think he'll be successful wherever he ends up. LOL, I hear you but I'm only looking at his skills as a point guard. Yeah, maybe a 0 chance he gets here, but I had to throw him out there ya know? I'm a point guard dude. We need another skilled pg that can run the show behind Mac. If we can can a true point guard that can knock it down we won't need a combo guard. Weve tried this with DSR ...We should be learning lessons from this. Look at the new post I just made on a kid right in our back yard named Sherwyn Devonish from Wise...let me know what you think. I always respect your opinions.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 12:13:55 GMT -5
I like him, but I've watched him plenty of times and think you guys are overhyping him a bit... I also think there's 0 chance he ends up here. I think Pat is looking for a kid that can play both guard spots based on who he has offered (Doutrive, Wash, Pinson, Mitchell etc.. ) Either way I'll be rooting for him and think he'll be successful wherever he ends up. LOL, I hear you but I'm only looking at his skills as a point guard. Yeah, maybe a 0 chance he gets here, but I had to throw him out there ya know? I'm a point guard dude. We need another skilled pg that can run the show behind Mac. If we can can a true point guard that can knock it down we won't need a combo guard. Weve tried this with DSR ...We should be learning lessons from this. Look at the new post I just made on a kid right in our back yard named Sherwyn Devonish from Wise...let me know what you think. I always respect your opinions. I feel you, but I don't think Pat would view a kid like DSR as a combo guard. I've never seen Devonish unfortunately.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Feb 15, 2018 12:20:14 GMT -5
LOL, I hear you but I'm only looking at his skills as a point guard. Yeah, maybe a 0 chance he gets here, but I had to throw him out there ya know? I'm a point guard dude. We need another skilled pg that can run the show behind Mac. If we can can a true point guard that can knock it down we won't need a combo guard. Weve tried this with DSR ...We should be learning lessons from this. Look at the new post I just made on a kid right in our back yard named Sherwyn Devonish from Wise...let me know what you think. I always respect your opinions. I feel you, but I don't think Pat would view a kid like DSR as a combo guard. I've never seen Devonish unfortunately. DSR was a combo guard even at Oak Hill, but Tyler mostly ran the point guard position while there. Go look at what I've posted about Sherwyn Devonish man. lol I trust in Pat, but I've been doing this point guard thing for a longggggg time bro. DSR was a shooter in a point guard's body. Is why he didn't make it and quit playing hoops.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 12:29:08 GMT -5
I feel you, but I don't think Pat would view a kid like DSR as a combo guard. I've never seen Devonish unfortunately. DSR was a combo guard even at Oak Hill, but Tyler mostly ran the point guard position while there. Go look at what I've posted about Sherwyn Devonish man. lol I trust in Pat, but I've been doing this point guard thing for a longggggg time bro. DSR was a shooter in a point guard's body. Is why he didn't make it and quit playing hoops. Solid observation and that's how I think Pat would have viewed him, as a small 2. Doesn't matter what other coaches thought he was. The combo's he's offered are bigger, more athletic, and have a better handle at a similar stage than DSR.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Feb 15, 2018 12:41:29 GMT -5
DSR was a combo guard even at Oak Hill, but Tyler mostly ran the point guard position while there. Go look at what I've posted about Sherwyn Devonish man. lol I trust in Pat, but I've been doing this point guard thing for a longggggg time bro. DSR was a shooter in a point guard's body. Is why he didn't make it and quit playing hoops. Solid observation and that's how I think Pat would have viewed him, as a small 2. Doesn't matter what other coaches thought he was. The combo's he's offered are bigger, more athletic, and have a better handle at a similar stage than DSR. IMO at the point guard spot it's not about height although this kid Sherwyn is 6-0 and super quick. I'm not even talking about what other coaches thought because this is what DSR was a 2 in a pg's body. We need a point guard bro. Please go look at the Sherwyn post. I tagged you on this.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 12:49:59 GMT -5
Solid observation and that's how I think Pat would have viewed him, as a small 2. Doesn't matter what other coaches thought he was. The combo's he's offered are bigger, more athletic, and have a better handle at a similar stage than DSR. IMO at the point guard spot it's not about height although this kid Sherwyn is 6-0 and super quick. I'm not even talking about what other coaches thought because this is what DSR was a 2 in a pg's body. We need a point guard bro. Please go look at the Sherwyn post. I tagged you on this. I understand but just because 3 thought DSR was a combo doesn't mean Pat would is my point. I don't think Pat would be looking at a kid like him as a combo. I'd have to watch a game on Sherwyn, I don't really make judgements based on HL tapes. If Hoyas start showing interest I'll check him out!
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Feb 15, 2018 12:58:14 GMT -5
DSR wasn’t super quick, but he wasn’t getting the ball stripped from him. He could work his way through traffic better than any of our current guards.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Feb 15, 2018 13:00:15 GMT -5
DSR wasn’t super quick, but he wasn’t getting the ball stripped from him. He could work his way through traffic better than any of our current guards. He was kinda of super selfish and your're right he wasn't getting the ball stripped. He still didn't get the job done at the helm. Don't get me wrong I liked DSR, but he was very inconsistent and we still at the time needed a floor general. I think I would've had Trawick run the point.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Feb 15, 2018 13:03:32 GMT -5
IMO at the point guard spot it's not about height although this kid Sherwyn is 6-0 and super quick. I'm not even talking about what other coaches thought because this is what DSR was a 2 in a pg's body. We need a point guard bro. Please go look at the Sherwyn post. I tagged you on this. I understand but just because 3 thought DSR was a combo doesn't mean Pat would is my point. I don't think Pat would be looking at a kid like him as a combo. I'd have to watch a game on Sherwyn, I don't really make judgements based on HL tapes. If Hoyas start showing interest I'll check him out! Oh, come on man, these are his game tapes. Coaches watch film of and on players. Good coaches can tell if a kid has all intangibles watching in person and on tape. I just asked you to check him out. I'm not talking about Patrick looking at a kid as a combo. We don't necessarily need a combo right now for 2018. WE need another floor general. Again, I believe in Patrick but I know what we need that we haven't had for years, and that's a floor general. You of all should know this, but you act like you don't for whatever reason. Hope you understand. You post videos too right? I only asked you what you simply think. I guess this is too much to ask. Hmmm. If the Hoyas start showing interest you'll watch? Excuses? This is a player I just did my homework on in our back yard. smh Man, you okay? Funny how people switch up. All good though. You're the one who said Ewing didn't get out-coached when Providence beat us, but Ewing turned around and was honest and mentioned he was out-coached and has gotten better ever since. It's okay to be honest. Being honest doesn't mean a person is hating. Honesty is the best policy.
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