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Post by Air Jordan on Jun 14, 2005 10:48:43 GMT -5
I feel is the time to turn up the pressure on Macklin. With M. Johnson going to TENN. We need to go after Macklin wiht that remaining scholly. Then that will leave our 06 class really good. Three top 100 and PE jr. Then we can turn our eyes onto the 07 class. I dont know how many we will have open by then but with this class the way it is forming, should give Gtown a really good run. Any Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2005 10:50:02 GMT -5
Agreed. Second?
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Post by RBHoya on Jun 14, 2005 10:51:46 GMT -5
Absolutely.
But if we don't get him, I'll still be happy with Summers, Rivers, Ewing, and 2 scholarships to use in 2007. Of course, landing Macklin would be enormous though.
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Post by Air Jordan on Jun 14, 2005 10:54:06 GMT -5
ok so we will only have 2 open in 07, Bowman and Cook? Barring any more transfers. Thanx
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 14, 2005 11:10:01 GMT -5
I feel is the time to turn up the pressure on Macklin. With M. Johnson going to TENN. We need to go after Macklin wiht that remaining scholly. Then that will leave our 06 class really good. Three top 100 and PE jr. Then we can turn our eyes onto the 07 class. I dont know how many we will have open by then but with this class the way it is forming, should give Gtown a really good run. Any Thoughts? I'm sure we're as hard on Macklin as is legally possible. I don't think Marques Johnson's commitment had any effect on our coaching staff. I am all but certain that for both GU and Johnson, the Rivers commitment ended Johnson's chances of being a Hoya. We have 1 open scholarship for '06 now, and 2 if Jon remains a walk-on. If we have 2, I'd consider pursuing another post player with Macklin. If not, I'd go after Macklin now and give him priority.
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Post by lichoya68 on Jun 14, 2005 11:31:50 GMT -5
any word about dj
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Jun 14, 2005 11:53:31 GMT -5
Absolutely. But if we don't get him, I'll still be happy with Summers, Rivers, Ewing, and 2 scholarships to use in 2007. Of course, landing Macklin would be enormous though. Agreed. Our '06 class looks to be the best in how long? I'm already really pleased. Any more top names from that class will just be more icing on the cake! Does anyone feel like we may want to add a defensive specialist to this class? I don't know much about the '06 class defensive skills, but some references to Joe Touomou type skills would be nice, IMO.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 14, 2005 12:15:40 GMT -5
Absolutely. But if we don't get him, I'll still be happy with Summers, Rivers, Ewing, and 2 scholarships to use in 2007. Of course, landing Macklin would be enormous though. Agreed. Our '06 class looks to be the best in how long? I'm already really pleased. Any more top names from that class will just be more icing on the cake! Does anyone feel like we may want to add a defensive specialist to this class? I don't know much about the '06 class defensive skills, but some references to Joe Touomou type skills would be nice, IMO. Does anyone know if there is a Gene Smith Jr. running around somewhere?
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Post by PopeJohn2 on Jun 14, 2005 18:47:47 GMT -5
Yes we need Macklin. Without him we will only be decent, in and out of the top 25, and prone to those aggravating 6 minute bouts of scorelessness.
We need a top 25 recruit. If memory serves thats what Ewing, Mourning, Othella, Iverson and Sweetney were. We need Macklin otherwise we are all getting ahead of ourselves about how good we are going to be like we did last season with the Dance.
For you youngin's out there, you have no idea what you're missing when your team is a Top 10 team. On those cold wintery days walking to class you can look forward to later evening to watch the big game drinking a can of Milwaukees Best while eating a bowl of 49cent mac n cheese from Safeway.
Macklin is what stands between us and the glory dayz!!!!!!!
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Post by JimmyHoya on Jun 14, 2005 18:52:42 GMT -5
Save it for '07. Let's not get greedy. A boost from the 8th ranked to the 2nd ranked really doesn't mean much. I'd prefer we make sure we're set with the goods we've got than keep chasing every top 10 player we can get our hands on. I'd prefer we sit tight, add a little balance and stability to the influx of talent and hold off for '07.
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Post by PopeJohn2 on Jun 14, 2005 18:54:40 GMT -5
Jimmy, quit smoking dooby. We need Mack!
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Post by the_way on Jun 14, 2005 19:03:47 GMT -5
Yes we need Macklin. Without him we will only be decent, in and out of the top 25, and prone to those aggravating 6 minute bouts of scorelessness. We need a top 25 recruit. If memory serves thats what Ewing, Mourning, Othella, Iverson and Sweetney were. We need Macklin otherwise we are all getting ahead of ourselves about how good we are going to be like we did last season with the Dance. For you youngin's out there, you have no idea what you're missing when your team is a Top 10 team. On those cold wintery days walking to class you can look forward to later evening to watch the big game drinking a can of Milwaukees Best while eating a bowl of 49cent mac n cheese from Safeway. Macklin is what stands between us and the glory dayz!!!!!!! Look, we need to get a good player. Macklin will not make or break us. JTIII will make us. And lot of times, good or even great players aren't in the top 25. (Charles Smith, Jerome Williams, Dikembe Mutumbo). And a lot of times highly ranked players aren't really that great. We need good players. A lot of players are overhyped and ranked higher than they should be (Guibunda, Othella,Anthony Perry, Godwin Owinje etc.). A ranked player won't make us great. Great coaching, a collection of good players mixed in with a few great ones makes us great and stands between us and the glory days. But it all starts with JTIII.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Jun 14, 2005 19:15:36 GMT -5
Yes we need Macklin. Without him we will only be decent, in and out of the top 25, and prone to those aggravating 6 minute bouts of scorelessness. We need a top 25 recruit. If memory serves thats what Ewing, Mourning, Othella, Iverson and Sweetney were. We need Macklin otherwise we are all getting ahead of ourselves about how good we are going to be like we did last season with the Dance. For you youngin's out there, you have no idea what you're missing when your team is a Top 10 team. On those cold wintery days walking to class you can look forward to later evening to watch the big game drinking a can of Milwaukees Best while eating a bowl of 49cent mac n cheese from Safeway. Macklin is what stands between us and the glory dayz!!!!!!! Look, we need to get a good player. Macklin will not make or break us. JTIII will make us. And lot of times, good or even great players aren't in the top 25. (Charles Smith, Jerome Williams, Dikembe Mutumbo). And a lot of times highly ranked players aren't really that great. We need good players. A lot of players are overhyped and ranked higher than they should be (Guibunda, Othella,Anthony Perry, Godwin Owinje etc.). A ranked player won't make us great. Great coaching, a collection of good players mixed in with a few great ones makes us great and stands between us and the glory days. But it all starts with JTIII. I don't know of a good argument against recruiting and signing Macklin. We need him as soon as possible, especially because of our limited low post options. He is exactly the kind of player we need for this offense.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 14, 2005 19:16:24 GMT -5
Yes we need Macklin. Without him we will only be decent, in and out of the top 25, and prone to those aggravating 6 minute bouts of scorelessness. We need a top 25 recruit. If memory serves thats what Ewing, Mourning, Othella, Iverson and Sweetney were. We need Macklin otherwise we are all getting ahead of ourselves about how good we are going to be like we did last season with the Dance. For you youngin's out there, you have no idea what you're missing when your team is a Top 10 team. On those cold wintery days walking to class you can look forward to later evening to watch the big game drinking a can of Milwaukees Best while eating a bowl of 49cent mac n cheese from Safeway. Macklin is what stands between us and the glory dayz!!!!!!! Sweetney wasn't Top 25. From what I understand, Macklin is more in the Top 25 because of athletic ability than pure skills. He'd bring defense, rebounding and some dunking and such. I somewhat doubt his college productivity would be better than Jeff's. It'd be great to get Macklin. We should by all means go after him. Will he make or break us? I doubt it. He's not the Iverson type of Top 10 recruit.
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Post by the_way on Jun 14, 2005 19:33:58 GMT -5
Look, we need to get a good player. Macklin will not make or break us. JTIII will make us. And lot of times, good or even great players aren't in the top 25. (Charles Smith, Jerome Williams, Dikembe Mutumbo). And a lot of times highly ranked players aren't really that great. We need good players. A lot of players are overhyped and ranked higher than they should be (Guibunda, Othella,Anthony Perry, Godwin Owinje etc.). A ranked player won't make us great. Great coaching, a collection of good players mixed in with a few great ones makes us great and stands between us and the glory days. But it all starts with JTIII. I don't know of a good argument against recruiting and signing Macklin. We need him as soon as possible, especially because of our limited low post options. He is exactly the kind of player we need for this offense. The guy is 190 pounds, at 6'9". Unless, he is the second coming of Perry McDonald, only 5 inches taller, I don't think he will be posting up too much and banging inside. Hey, I'm all for signing good recruits and signing Macklin. But the notion that we NEED a certain recruit to make or break us, is going overboard. What this program really NEEDED was good leadership at the top, and we have that with JTIII. Unless it is the next Ewing, Iverson, Mutumbo, Mourning, Jordan, Lebron, Carmelo,Amare,you get the point,that player is going straight to the NBA if they are THAT good, and Macklin will be 19 next year so the agreed 19 year age limit won't affect him, than a player won't make or break us.
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Post by PopeJohn2 on Jun 14, 2005 20:19:51 GMT -5
I disagree. We NEED Macklin.
When was the last time we had a top 10 recruit WANT to come to GU? When will be the next time a top 10 recruit will want to come to GU?
We need to close this opportunity now. For so many reasons. With him, we will be extremely competitive in 2 years. That will pave the way for other top players to come here.
Sure we can get by just fine with the top 50-150 players we have been getting, but to really break into prime time we need to start pulling in the big guns. We need to start landing 1 top 25 recruit each year like Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Uconn.
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Post by nychoya3 on Jun 14, 2005 20:51:53 GMT -5
I wouldn't conclude from Macklin's ranking that he would make us competitive if we weren't going to be anyway. He's very long, and he's athletic. But this isn't Greg Oden or Wayne Ellington or Kevin Durant. He's not a finished product. Last year, he supposedly tried to play like KG on the perimeter and failed pretty miserably. He can dominate with his height and athleticism down low, but he isn't neccesarily a guaranteed star instantly. History is littered with top 20 guys who never realized their ranking.
Conclusion: I want Macklin, but we most certainly don't need him. If our program ever "needs" a recruit, it's a reflection of weakness. And Macklin isn't even that level of recruit.
Moreover, even if we "get" Macklin, there's at best a 50% chance he stays got, given his NBA aspirations and academic questions.
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Jun 14, 2005 21:38:03 GMT -5
At this point we need to fill spots in the offense - we are REALLY deep at 1, 2, 3, and somewhat deep at 4 depending on the line up we go with - who is available that can push Roy at the 5 and also prepare for the inevitable departure of Meal Ticket - er, um, Green
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Post by the_way on Jun 14, 2005 22:00:43 GMT -5
I disagree. We NEED Macklin. When was the last time we had a top 10 recruit WANT to come to GU? When will be the next time a top 10 recruit will want to come to GU? We need to close this opportunity now. For so many reasons. With him, we will be extremely competitive in 2 years. That will pave the way for other top players to come here. Sure we can get by just fine with the top 50-150 players we have been getting, but to really break into prime time we need to start pulling in the big guns. We need to start landing 1 top 25 recruit each year like Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Uconn. We don't need to do anything like Kentucky, Duke, UNC, Uconn. We didn't become a powerhouse by being like other schools. We became a powerhouse by doing it our way, the GU way. You are thinking about perception and the sexyness of a top 10 player. Perception doesn't win ball games. Rankings don't win ballgames. Great coaches and players win ballgames. WE get to the top by winning. Not by perception, not by being "sexy", not by being like "Duke". We get to the top by being ourselves and winning ballgames.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jun 14, 2005 22:17:23 GMT -5
When was the last time we had a top 10 recruit WANT to come to GU? When will be the next time a top 10 recruit will want to come to GU? The last top 10 recruit that signed was Anthony Perry (high school class of 1997). The last top 10 recruits that seriously considered Georgetown (and some might have a few other names to add) was probably Lavell Blanchard or Joe Forte (class of 1999)
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