hoyazeke
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Post by hoyazeke on Jul 24, 2018 8:51:10 GMT -5
Yea I agree. As much as I want Whitney on the hilltop I'm fine with losing him to Kentucky. Like it or not Kentucky puts kids in the pros. I also said that the hoyas should be recruiting in the 50-200 range of recruits. Kinda wasting your time in the top 20 of the class. Schools like duke, ku, unc and Kentucky pretty much get who they want. Exactly why you have back up plans in placed for stuff like this. May have to move on with other players like cj felder, antavion collum, Brandon weatherspoon, quincy geurrer, etc etc... I hate when people say that UK puts kids in the pros. Where would Wall, Cousins, Townes, Davis,....etc had to gone to school to not be a lottery pick? The sad thing is that no one points out that he is one Kendall Marshall wrist injury from having zero C'ships with all of that talent...there are plenty of cases where top kids never developed at UK like MKG, Gabriel, Briscoe, the Harrison twins, Lee,...etc...no one ever talks about 5* kids that dont get better but god forbid JT3 or Ewing dont develop a 2/3* kid and its on the front page....this isn't specifically aimed at you blazer but its frustrating as a fan of a non blueblood....I can imagine how coaches feel that have to recruit against that bogus fact. It like saying The Fast and Furious series are the best movies ever because they made so much money.....
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hoyas315
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Post by hoyas315 on Jul 24, 2018 15:25:48 GMT -5
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Post by bostonfan on Jul 24, 2018 16:04:05 GMT -5
If the kid is swayed by the exposure that playing for Kentucky gives a player than it is going to be tough to compete. I don't agree that Cal turns these kids into NBA players, but he has built the program to the point where his kids get constant exposure on TV and that has to be really attractive to a kid with NBA dreams. Cal does not deserve all the credit for getting these kids drafted but you can't argue that he can point to a lot of kids who have realized their dreams of playing in the NBA after a year or two at Kentucky.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jul 24, 2018 16:23:25 GMT -5
Luxury dorms, light course load and coeds. Kids don’t really want to be distracted by books.
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lucky
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Post by lucky on Jul 24, 2018 16:41:53 GMT -5
Didn’t take long to get that visit in order. Who is plan B at his spot, better get on the phone.
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Post by blazers44 on Jul 24, 2018 16:44:45 GMT -5
Amazing. We been on him like crazy for the past yr, Kentucky jumps in the picture for a few weeks and he sets up a visit. Calipari is a magician. Like magic.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jul 24, 2018 16:56:50 GMT -5
Cal can change a bag of $$$ into a scholarship presto chango.
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MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Jul 24, 2018 17:00:54 GMT -5
Yea I agree. As much as I want Whitney on the hilltop I'm fine with losing him to Kentucky. Like it or not Kentucky puts kids in the pros. I also said that the hoyas should be recruiting in the 50-200 range of recruits. Kinda wasting your time in the top 20 of the class. Schools like duke, ku, unc and Kentucky pretty much get who they want. Exactly why you have back up plans in placed for stuff like this. May have to move on with other players like cj felder, antavion collum, Brandon weatherspoon, quincy geurrer, etc etc... I hate when people say that UK puts kids in the pros. Where would Wall, Cousins, Townes, Davis,....etc had to gone to school to not be a lottery pick? The sad thing is that no one points out that he is one Kendall Marshall wrist injury from having zero C'ships with all of that talent...there are plenty of cases where top kids never developed at UK like MKG, Gabriel, Briscoe, the Harrison twins, Lee,...etc...no one ever talks about 5* kids that dont get better but god forbid JT3 or Ewing dont develop a 2/3* kid and its on the front page....this isn't specifically aimed at you blazer but its frustrating as a fan of a non blueblood....I can imagine how coaches feel that have to recruit against that bogus fact. It like saying The Fast and Furious series are the best movies ever because they made so much money..... Facts.
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Post by goyahoya69 on Jul 24, 2018 17:28:27 GMT -5
i dont mind him taking a visit to UK. if i were him, of course i would wanna take an OV to UK. why not visit the basketball factory and see the best facilities that college bball money can buy? my worry comes from how quickly he has reciprocated the full court press that calipari has put on him. to set up this official visit so early in their relationship shows just how enamored kahlil may be with cal/UK. and we all know that more often than not, cal gets who he wants.
we need to start getting some of our top recruiting targets on campus for visits.
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IDenj
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Post by IDenj on Jul 24, 2018 17:52:27 GMT -5
Been saying it for a few months. None of the big name players had committed to the blue bloods ( or even gave an indication of leaning ) which left the door open to any and all kids to be an option for them. Good news is the Hoya program was able to identify some high end players at an early stage which says Pat and gang have an eye for talent. But let’s see how it plays out.
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MCIGuy
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Post by MCIGuy on Jul 24, 2018 21:21:31 GMT -5
Yes, it is frustrating and a bit soul-killing for other programs to work so hard in initially discovering a prospect, analyzing this prospect, targeting this recruit and spending time working on wooing the recruit, only to have Duke or UK come in much more late to swoop in and go to the front of the line as suitors. Honestly Duke and UK don't even do any true evaluations; they just wait for the cream to rise to the top and "pursue" the target much later in the process. Hey, that's just the way it goes. The big boys can do stuff like that and Duke and UK especially have learned how to master this landscape. What Georgetown now has to do is gain more traction and do so quickly so it won't be so vulnerable in these scenarios. That doesn't just mean winning and sending some more guys to the NBA over the next couple of years; that means also, in my opinion, playing an exciting brand of basketball that draws eyeballs and helps the program stand out from the pack. That further reinforces my belief that you put McClung and Walker in the starting lineup and have the guys dominate the boards and run the floor. Mosely or Johnson can be fine supporting players coming off the bench but they didn't prove last season that they are difference makers in terms of victories nor does their play on the court entice fans to show up at arenas or viewers to watch on TV.
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Post by SaxaCD on Jul 25, 2018 7:17:25 GMT -5
Yes, it is frustrating and a bit soul-killing for other programs to work so hard in initially discovering a prospect, analyzing this prospect, targeting this recruit and spending time working on wooing the recruit, only to have Duke or UK come in much more late to swoop in and go to the front of the line as suitors. Honestly Duke and UK don't even do any true evaluations; they just wait for the cream to rise to the top and "pursue" the target much later in the process. Hey, that's just the way it goes. The big boys can do stuff like that and Duke and UK especially have learned how to master this landscape. What Georgetown now has to do is gain more traction and do so quickly so it won't be so vulnerable in these scenarios. That doesn't just mean winning and sending some more guys to the NBA over the next couple of years; that means also, in my opinion, playing an exciting brand of basketball that draws eyeballs and helps the program stand out from the pack. That further reinforces my belief that you put McClung and Walker in the starting lineup and have the guys dominate the boards and run the floor. Mosely or Johnson can be fine supporting players coming off the bench but they didn't prove last season that they are difference makers in terms of victories nor does their play on the court entice fans to show up at arenas or viewers to watch on TV. I think it's smart for Ewing and Co to get out there to get mentioned with the more recently successful bluebloods, even if we don't land any of them right now. It gets in people's heads, and I think it will pay off when the exciting games and winning commence. We have a chance to be an "it" destination again for top players, but really, I only want them if they are in the same hungry, tough mode as some of the recent recruits.
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Post by s4hoyas on Jul 25, 2018 7:51:29 GMT -5
It ain't over til its over...but it looks like the fat lady is getting ready to sing...do you think he's going to officially visit, get the red carpet treatment at Kentucky, and not commit...when I'm sure they'll pressure him by saying that if he doesn't, there's someone waiting outside the door who will take that spot...what's really disappointing to me is that he stated that one of the most important factors to him was (long term) relationships with the coaches...to my knowledge, Calishadi just entered the picture a week or two ago...on a positive take, if he doesn't commit and takes other visits (including us) there may still be a shot, but it ain't looking good right now...
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Jul 25, 2018 8:10:21 GMT -5
There will always be top recruits that appreciate the early love.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Jul 25, 2018 9:57:55 GMT -5
There will always be top recruits that appreciate the early love. And parents of top recruits too. Let's not forget that part of the equation. I suspect that Ewing will do quite well with the family pitch.
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Post by bostonfan on Jul 25, 2018 10:49:22 GMT -5
There will always be top recruits that appreciate the early love. And parents of top recruits too. Let's not forget that part of the equation. I suspect that Ewing will do quite well with the family pitch. I hope it works out with Kahlil and he decides to come to Georgetown, but he needs to value the things that Georgetown has to offer. I think the program, with Coach Ewing leading the way, offers a great opportunity to many of these recruits to not only improve as players but to get a world class education. He can improve his skills under an NBA Hall of Famer and play in a great basketball conference. Those things sound very attractive to people on this board, but some kids want the exposure and prestige of being recruited and playing for one of the Blue Blood programs. It will all come down to what is most important to the young man. I am holding out hope that he values the things that Coach Ewing and the staff are talking to him about.
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jwp91
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Post by jwp91 on Jul 25, 2018 11:16:01 GMT -5
In PE I trust. If it is not Khalil, it will be someone else. He has brought us some great players so far.....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2018 12:14:32 GMT -5
11 UK predictions this week for Whitney on 24/7, including the guy who had Illinois before.
Seems like it would be a hell of a coup at this point for Patrick to bring in Whitney.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jul 25, 2018 13:25:26 GMT -5
To Kahlil:
Listen to your momma! Otto Porter's mom came, saw, and said Georgetown just felt right! Family!
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Post by blazers44 on Jul 25, 2018 13:29:01 GMT -5
He gong to Kentucky. Cal is that dude. Can't hate khalil for choosing the big blue nation. Cal has nba scouts coming in to practices on a weekly basis. Exposure at its best when I go to Kentucky.
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