Filo
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Post by Filo on Aug 25, 2017 12:48:57 GMT -5
You're putting up a straw man of "he cares about his players how is that bad". I literally don't understand the logic behind carrying around three physical phones, charging three physical phones, keeping track of three different physical phones. I understand separation of concerns and why you might want to firewall secure vs unsecure or work vs personal, do not understand why players demands a physical firewall from "work". So the poster who writes a gem like, "Can someone explain why anyone on the up and up needs more than one phone?" has a problem with a "he cares about his players" response?
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Post by dungeon ball on Aug 25, 2017 12:55:08 GMT -5
The way this thread is going, I'm half expecting someone to criticize Dajuan Summers for not smiling enough
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Aug 25, 2017 13:22:51 GMT -5
I literally don't understand the logic behind carrying around three physical phones, charging three physical phones, keeping track of three different physical phones. I understand separation of concerns and why you might want to firewall secure vs unsecure or work vs personal, do not understand why players demands a physical firewall from "work". Obviously, nobody "needs" multiple phones but there are logical reasons for it. I have two - one personal that I've had a long time, and a work phone (which I only use for email, not for calls). But, it's easy to see why one would do this: (1) His personal phone that has nothing to do with work. (2) His work phone for calls with assistants/recruits. (3) A phone for his players. Again, would all of us do this? Probably not, but to say it's not logical is an opinion because there are logical reasons why one might do it. I would add that with coaches being able to text recruits now too, there is probably more value in having a separate phone for recruiting than there would have been in the past. It is probably more neat/tidy to have all recruiting communications on one, separate device, for the sake of compliance with NCAA rules and record-keeping. I just don't find it illogical. Also, while carrying 3 phones is a pain, the guy is 7'0+. His pockets are bigger than ours. So there's that!
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Aug 25, 2017 13:48:38 GMT -5
I once had to carry two phones - one for work and my personal phone - and I absolutely hated it. I didn't like having all that stuff in my pockets! But I also wanted to keep my personal life away from work. I liked it a lot better when work just reimbursed me for cell phone costs. Now, pls, back to discussion of the column.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Aug 25, 2017 14:06:20 GMT -5
Can someone explain why anyone on the up and up needs more than one phone? We get it TC, over and over and over - you don't like Ewing (or anyone but JTIII) as our coach. But suggesting that Ewing is not on the "up and up" is pretty slimy.
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Post by HometownHoya on Aug 25, 2017 14:41:18 GMT -5
Clearly we should be disappointed why Patrick Ewing, a 55 year old man, isn't up to date on how he can use Google Voice forwarding to get all of his numbers redirected to one phone.....
Seriously, this conversation is asinine. Why does it matter.
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TC
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Post by TC on Aug 25, 2017 15:23:19 GMT -5
Clearly we should be disappointed why Patrick Ewing, a 55 year old man, isn't up to date on how he can use Google Voice forwarding to get all of his numbers redirected to one phone..... Seriously, this conversation is asinine. Why does it matter. We elected a President last year almost solely on the issue of a woman using a Blackberry and not wanting to carry two phones around, I think we can talk about our coach lugging three phones around. Is the WaPo sports round table this came from published somewhere? Is it a podcast or something?
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Post by SSHoya on Aug 25, 2017 15:36:06 GMT -5
I got you all beat. Before I retired I had personal cellphone, govt cellphone, a Blackberry AND a pager!!! Just like a drug dealer!!! Pager was the only electronic comms device allowed in my office!
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Post by HometownHoya on Aug 25, 2017 16:09:35 GMT -5
Clearly we should be disappointed why Patrick Ewing, a 55 year old man, isn't up to date on how he can use Google Voice forwarding to get all of his numbers redirected to one phone..... Seriously, this conversation is asinine. Why does it matter. We elected a President last year almost solely on the issue of a woman using a Blackberry and not wanting to carry two phones around, I think we can talk about our coach lugging three phones around. Is the WaPo sports round table this came from published somewhere? Is it a podcast or something? Yeah, and that was an idiotic move but this isn't the politics board.
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Post by beenaround on Aug 25, 2017 17:41:53 GMT -5
Clearly we should be disappointed why Patrick Ewing, a 55 year old man, isn't up to date on how he can use Google Voice forwarding to get all of his numbers redirected to one phone..... Seriously, this conversation is asinine. Why does it matter. This 3 phone debate with TC is literally making my head explode. Pls..let it die. I'd rather discuss Skal with TigerJ.
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Post by hoyarooter on Aug 25, 2017 19:06:01 GMT -5
How about this:
1. A phone for pimps, hos and strip club proprietors. 2. A phone for bribes and other shady dealings, programmed so that calls are untraceable. 3. A phone for all other purposes.
Happy now?
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Aug 25, 2017 19:48:42 GMT -5
This thread is dumb. We're focused on the fact he has 3 phones??? Really??? This season can't start fast enough.
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Post by bicentennial on Aug 25, 2017 19:51:29 GMT -5
How about this: 1. A phone for pimps, hos and strip club proprietors. 2. A phone for bribes and other shady dealings, programmed so that calls are untraceable. 3. A phone for all other purposes. Happy now? 1. Thrown in a river with the sim card burned each month. 2. Thrown in a river with the sim card burned each quarter after the debts are recorded in code. 3. Reported to NCAA, Political oversight committees, others. When will football coaches, governors(Blago) learn what the pimps and drug dealers already know!
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Post by lurkerhoya on Aug 28, 2017 13:45:32 GMT -5
Not to dwell, but I'm assuming this has been his practice for some time since he was coaching and wanted a way to separate things. As in, Kemba Walker has the same number Jagan Mosley has, and if it's 9pm and the work phone rings, let it ring, and if it's one of his guys, he knows he wants to answer it to be there for whatever those guys need.
Frankly, I just see it as an extension of whatever organizing discipline he's developed in this stage of his profession, the same way my wife as a teacher manually checks her work email before she goes to bed because some parents don't always communicate 9-5 and the same way I used to keep a flip phone for police officers to call me out of hours so I knew when it rang that it needed to be answered.
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Just Cos
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Post by Just Cos on Aug 28, 2017 14:46:05 GMT -5
Does he have a utility belt for his three phones? I agree carrying around three phones sounds dumb. If anyone I knew carried three phones I would be giving them a hard time on a regular basis.
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Post by HometownHoya on Aug 28, 2017 14:59:56 GMT -5
Does he have a utility belt for his three phones? I agree carrying around three phones sounds dumb. If anyone I knew carried three phones I would be giving them a hard time on a regular basis. And if I had to carry three phones, I'd retort by saying how much more important I must be then you... Seriously, let this die, who cares. Tons of reasons to carry multiple phones and Pat's are valid.
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Post by Just Cos on Aug 28, 2017 15:04:43 GMT -5
Where's the fun in letting it die?
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Post by TC on Aug 29, 2017 12:55:28 GMT -5
Not to dwell, but I'm assuming this has been his practice for some time since he was coaching and wanted a way to separate things. As in, Kemba Walker has the same number Jagan Mosley has, and if it's 9pm and the work phone rings, let it ring, and if it's one of his guys, he knows he wants to answer it to be there for whatever those guys need. Just so I understand this - I'm being asked to believe that : - Kemba Walker and Jagan Mosley share the same phone #, or Patrick Ewing has some ideological sticking point about only putting players jersey numbers into phones and cannot put their names (I don't really understand this part of the scenario really - it makes 0 sense) - Patrick Ewing gets so many calls from Kemba Walker he has to screen them out - Patrick Ewing has three ridiculously lame phones that he cannot set different ring tones for different numbers on, or Patrick Ewing does not understand how to use very basic functionality on one of today's phones Typically when the board grabs onto something totally nonsensical it's because of some weird attachment to anything related to the 1980's (scheduling, style of play, repping crazy coach candidates, etc). I don't understand this defense of three phones - I could understand the board defending some giant brick phone, but carrying three phones is not some weird nostalgic block from the 1980's that this board needs to get time-stuck on.
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Post by sleepy on Aug 29, 2017 13:49:22 GMT -5
Not to dwell, but I'm assuming this has been his practice for some time since he was coaching and wanted a way to separate things. As in, Kemba Walker has the same number Jagan Mosley has, and if it's 9pm and the work phone rings, let it ring, and if it's one of his guys, he knows he wants to answer it to be there for whatever those guys need. Just so I understand this - I'm being asked to believe that : - Kemba Walker and Jagan Mosley share the same phone #, or Patrick Ewing has some ideological sticking point about only putting players jersey numbers into phones and cannot put their names (I don't really understand this part of the scenario really - it makes 0 sense) - Patrick Ewing gets so many calls from Kemba Walker he has to screen them out - Patrick Ewing has three ridiculously lame phones that he cannot set different ring tones for different numbers on, or Patrick Ewing does not understand how to use very basic functionality on one of today's phones Typically when the board grabs onto something totally nonsensical it's because of some weird attachment to anything related to the 1980's (scheduling, style of play, repping crazy coach candidates, etc). I don't understand this defense of three phones - I could understand the board defending some giant brick phone, but carrying three phones is not some weird nostalgic block from the 1980's that this board needs to get time-stuck on. He is saying that the players he coached in the NBA use the same phone line for Patrick Ewing that the players on Georgetown will. Basically he is transitioning previously used behavior/phone to a new situation.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Aug 29, 2017 14:13:06 GMT -5
Not to dwell, but I'm assuming this has been his practice for some time since he was coaching and wanted a way to separate things. As in, Kemba Walker has the same number Jagan Mosley has, and if it's 9pm and the work phone rings, let it ring, and if it's one of his guys, he knows he wants to answer it to be there for whatever those guys need. Just so I understand this - I'm being asked to believe that : - Kemba Walker and Jagan Mosley share the same phone #, or Patrick Ewing has some ideological sticking point about only putting players jersey numbers into phones and cannot put their names (I don't really understand this part of the scenario really - it makes 0 sense) - Patrick Ewing gets so many calls from Kemba Walker he has to screen them out - Patrick Ewing has three ridiculously lame phones that he cannot set different ring tones for different numbers on, or Patrick Ewing does not understand how to use very basic functionality on one of today's phones Typically when the board grabs onto something totally nonsensical it's because of some weird attachment to anything related to the 1980's (scheduling, style of play, repping crazy coach candidates, etc). I don't understand this defense of three phones - I could understand the board defending some giant brick phone, but carrying three phones is not some weird nostalgic block from the 1980's that this board needs to get time-stuck on. TC, we have seen eye to eye on much in the past, I just don't get the fixation on the phones. There is no "defense" of the phones needed. People have different preferences. I have two phones because I want to keep my work phone separate; a lot of my colleagues don't and use one. Both are "defensible" positions - it's really just a matter of personal preference. I understand that you, personally, see no reason to use three phones. But, clearly, Patrick Ewing, and a lot of us on here don't see anything weird about it. This is much ado about nothing.
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