blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Oct 3, 2017 18:31:11 GMT -5
josh is more than just a defensive stopper. In addition to creating offense through his defense, he's a great finisher, very good in transition, has long strides and can get from one end of he court to the other quickly, and is rather crafty around the rim. He's got a lot of Luol Deng in his game.
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Post by blazers44 on Oct 3, 2017 18:38:18 GMT -5
We put in a lot of time and effort and now he pulls this..smh
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Oct 3, 2017 18:51:12 GMT -5
Next...
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nbhoya
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Post by nbhoya on Oct 3, 2017 18:55:08 GMT -5
If we can't get him now, we're not getting him. Next.
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Oct 3, 2017 19:15:37 GMT -5
This aint over its just been postponed, true Hoya's persevere!
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Post by ewingitrust on Oct 3, 2017 19:17:40 GMT -5
This aint over its just been postponed, true Hoya's persevere! maybe he wants to see how our offense n defense will look in game action. That's not a bad thing.
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Post by jld54 on Oct 3, 2017 19:30:27 GMT -5
I have to tell you, following the decisions of a bunch of 17 year olds is getting a bit crazy. First Phillips and now this guy. smh indeed.
I were PE I would get an ulcer.
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Oct 3, 2017 19:33:46 GMT -5
The problem with this recruitment is that the Hogs are playing a game of pick and choose. They've got Reggie Chaney, Jordan Phillips and now LeBlanc all up in a uproar as to who will be the last to grab the final two available scholarships. But here on the Hilltop its pretty clear who the Hoya's want and how we'll utilize those skill sets. So lets just be patient and let calmer heads foresee the future.
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Oct 3, 2017 20:19:26 GMT -5
NEXT...Why waste time and resources. We've invested enough already...keep it moving. There'a another bus coming. I don't get the fickleness of some prospects. They don't know what they want, or what they want isn't realistic. Do they have any other aspirations besides the NBA? How do they evaluate the options in front of them?
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Oct 3, 2017 20:32:14 GMT -5
IMO this sudden change makes me believe that another program (probably a blue blood) has reached out to him in recent days to express their interest and was able to persuade him to stay open as they further their evaluation of him. In layman's term, that blue blood is afraid they will miss out on their original target and are expanding their recruiting to other possible open targets that are willing to wait and keep their options open. For example it's possible Kentucky has reached out because they haven't made the progress with prospects in this class as they had hoped and felt the need to expand possible options.
This sucks for the staff who's been on him for a long time but this happens against us as it has happened in the Hoyas favor in the pass. Doesn't mean he won't end up a Hoya. He might change his mind again if he realizes or feels he's being used as a pawn.
I will also say this, it's hard to get a clear sense of the reporting on Leblanc and Phillips as all the info is coming from the Arkansas insider who's reporting from the Razorbacks perspective.
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Oct 3, 2017 20:49:15 GMT -5
NEXT...Why waste time and resources. We've invested enough already...keep it moving. There'a another bus coming. I don't get the fickleness of some prospects. They don't know what they want, or what they want isn't realistic. Do they have any other aspirations besides the NBA? How do they evaluate the options in front of them? As someone who's worked with college prospects and parents, you don't realize how nieve or sometimes ignorant they are to the recruiting process and how it works. It's downright scary to see how easily parents and prospects can be manipulated in this process. I'm not attributing this to Leblanc's situation. I'm speaking more of in general terms. I've always told kids, don't go where you really want to go (dream school) unless it's also the best education option for all possible academic needs as well as it being the program that has expressed the greatest need for your athletic abilities. Kids and families rarely get this which leads them to missing out on their best options. The staff is into deep at this point to just move on from Leblanc. Instead the staff has to continue to express their needs for his abilities and show him how the opportunity benefits him best. If they are sold on him, continue to show the love while also expanding their options.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Oct 3, 2017 21:30:06 GMT -5
NEXT...Why waste time and resources. We've invested enough already...keep it moving. There'a another bus coming. I don't get the fickleness of some prospects. They don't know what they want, or what they want isn't realistic. Do they have any other aspirations besides the NBA? How do they evaluate the options in front of them? As someone who's worked with college prospects and parents, you don't realize how nieve or sometimes ignorant they are to the recruiting process and how it works. It's downright scary to see how easily parents and prospects can be manipulated in this process. I'm not attributing this to Leblanc's situation. I'm speaking more of in general terms. I've always told kids, don't go where you really want to go (dream school) unless it's also the best education option for all possible academic needs as well as it being the program that has expressed the greatest need for your athletic abilities. Kids and families rarely get this which leads them to missing out on their best options. The staff is into deep at this point to just move on from Leblanc. Instead the staff has to continue to express their needs for his abilities and show him how the opportunity benefits him best. If they are sold on him, continue to show the love while also expanding their options. Exactly. I know we feel like jilted lovers right now, having felt better and better about our chances the last few days. But the staff won't overreact. Keep on him, keep letting him know how much we want him - but at the same time make it clear that we will have to keep looking to fill our slots, and if the situation arises we may need to take someone else.
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Post by bornhoya on Oct 3, 2017 21:38:43 GMT -5
Maybe he just needed more time this Is the biggest decision in his life to this point. I wanted him to be a Hoya today just like the rest of us but I rather the kid makes the best choice for him
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s4hoyas
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Post by s4hoyas on Oct 3, 2017 21:45:33 GMT -5
Has he given any reason why he's reopening his recruitment at this "12th hour," when he had clearly said he was down to Gtown and A&M ?... Something has to have happened, because this is essentially saying to the two finalists, after all the time and effort you've spent with me and my family, and I know after these last 4-5 months you were (rightfully) expecting my decision, but "you ain't good enough so I'm gonna look around some more and decide next spring"...Look, maybe I'm wrong to feel this way, but if Georgetown, one of the top academic schools in the country with a HOF college and NBA player and 14 year NBA coach, ain't good enough for you now, it won't be good enough for you in the spring...this is almost like a disrespectful slap in the face to Patrick Ewing...others may say, "not to worry, he may still choose us in the spring"...Nope, opportunity comes and opportunity goes...I know Patrick Ewing, he'll go find somebody better...
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Oct 3, 2017 21:55:08 GMT -5
Has he given any reason why he's reopening his recruitment at this "12th hour," when he had clearly said he was down to Gtown and A&M ?... Something has to have happened, because this is essentially saying to the two finalists, after all the time and effort you've spent with me and my family, and I know after these last 4-5 months you were (rightfully) expecting my decision, but "you ain't good enough so I'm gonna look around some more and decide next spring"...Look, maybe I'm wrong to feel this way, but if Georgetown, one of the top academic schools in the country with a HOF college and NBA player and 14 year NBA coach, ain't good enough for you now, it won't be good enough for you in the spring...this is almost like a disrespectful slap in the face to Patrick Ewing...others may say, "not to worry, he may still choose us in the spring"...Nope, opportunity comes and opportunity goes...I know Patrick Ewing, he'll go find somebody better... Pump the brakes s4. I would rather have him take more time and be 100% sure rather than commit now and then change his mind. The staff will not turn their backs - but they will know they have to keep all options open. As it should be.
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dchoya72
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Post by dchoya72 on Oct 3, 2017 21:56:45 GMT -5
Maybe we keep moving and let the recruit work it out. Georgetown is top shelf, A-1 and 2nd to none. We just haven't won in a while and wilted as a program. But we are being energized now. I Am Still OPTIMISTIC About Our future!!! I encourage all fans and supporters to also be optimistic.
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 4, 2017 7:49:14 GMT -5
Look, maybe I'm wrong to feel this way, but if Georgetown, one of the top academic schools in the country with a HOF college and NBA player and 14 year NBA coach, ain't good enough for you now, it won't be good enough for you in the spring... I think we tend to overstate this "14 year NBA coach" point. Being an assistant coach is not the same as a head coach.
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Post by centercourt400s on Oct 4, 2017 8:18:26 GMT -5
Look, maybe I'm wrong to feel this way, but if Georgetown, one of the top academic schools in the country with a HOF college and NBA player and 14 year NBA coach, ain't good enough for you now, it won't be good enough for you in the spring... I think we tend to overstate this "14 year NBA coach" point. Being an assistant coach is not the same as a head coach. I think the point is understated, if anything. What current college head coach has a better background in coaching NBA players than Ewing does? If a recruit wants to play for a coach that knows the NBA, knows current NBA players, knows current NBA coaching techniques, knows current NBA offense and defense philosophy, then Ewing is hard (if not impossible) to beat.
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Oct 4, 2017 9:15:59 GMT -5
Kids give lip service to academics, but they won't really care about it until their basketball days are over. Parents, on the other hand, usually get it. This recruitment has taken an unexpected turn. I believe Owens is his assistant coach- which makes it more baffling.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Oct 4, 2017 9:59:59 GMT -5
Let's keep in mind that this all comes from an Arkansas blogger (and presumably booster and/or alumnus who is having direct communications with recruits?) who conveniently brings Leblanc back into play for UA and also eliminates the Hoyas for Phillips leaving only Fresno and SMU as the competition to UA. Could still all be true of course, but, you know, that "consider the source" thing?
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