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Post by the_way on Apr 26, 2018 11:51:35 GMT -5
Honestly, talking to the media doesn't really matter now and you can ban freshman from talking to Ava Wallace all you want but the genie is out of the bottle. Social media matters more, and by the time these kids like Akinjo or Mac hit Georgetown freshman year, they've done more interviews and had more reps talking to recruiting services than JT2's kids probably had by their Senior years of college. It's an antiquated rule that doesn't matter anymore given the importance of social media. The "antiquated" rule is needed more than ever these days. Not just for student-athletes. Social media and the media are two different animals. It is why you see so many people get into trouble by what they say on social media. It is not just giving an interview. Talking to recruiting services....you are representing yourself. Once you are on campus, it is a different ballgame. It is not all about the player anymore. In high school it is all about you, what schools you are planning to attend, etc. Once you get to college, all of that changes. You are part of a team. You represent a university. You have other players that are just as good, if not better than you. All of that is an adjustment. It is not like they are banned for the year. It is just a semester.
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Post by sleepy on Apr 26, 2018 11:59:29 GMT -5
If anything social media just increases the importance of the rule . Are any of our players really that well known for their interviews that limiting their exposure for 6 weeks is going to derail the marketing of the team?
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Post by bostonfan on Apr 26, 2018 12:40:54 GMT -5
I know that people have always said that JT2, and to some degree JT3, had a "rule" about freshman not talking to the media and I am sure they did have something that they felt protected the player and the program from anything that they may view as embarrassing. My guess is that Coach Ewing has less of a rule and more of a team policy that he asks the players to adhere to. As everyone has mentioned above times are so different now and social media is a such a big thing that the team, and probably every D1 team, has guidelines that they expect the players to follow in regard to talking to the media and what they post on social media. I think it is less about trying to hold down freshman and more about giving them a better understanding of the responsibilities and ramifications that go along with the increased exposure they have now.
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Post by jwp91 on Apr 26, 2018 13:33:30 GMT -5
Disagree with some of the sentiment here. The world has changed. We should learn from the dinosaurs. Adapt or become extinct.
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Post by jwp91 on Apr 26, 2018 13:37:47 GMT -5
Imagine the following discussion in a board room....
Right when we launch the product (e.g. the start of the season), we should go dark on public relations activity. That would be great idea!
How much of recruiting is about brand right now? We should be pressing the accelerator not tapping the brakes.
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Post by the_way on Apr 26, 2018 15:36:45 GMT -5
You are talking (no pun) about interviews for for one semester.
Their play is the marketing power. Not what they say in the interview.
One semester where they can just focus on basketball and studies and getting acclimated to college life.
That is also part of our of brand.
We'll do what it takes to ensure your success on and off the court.
Parents see that. And there are young recruits out there that also notice it.
It really isn't that big of a deal, really. It helps the student. Can't hurt.
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Post by jwp91 on Apr 26, 2018 16:49:20 GMT -5
Well, in a reasonable world, reasonable people can disagree reasonably on the best approach.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 10:13:25 GMT -5
Great kids...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2018 10:43:38 GMT -5
You are talking (no pun) about interviews for for one semester. Their play is the marketing power. Not what they say in the interview. One semester where they can just focus on basketball and studies and getting acclimated to college life. That is also part of our of brand. We'll do what it takes to ensure your success on and off the court. Parents see that. And there are young recruits out there that also notice it. It really isn't that big of a deal, really. It helps the student. Can't hurt. I just hope that whatever media policies the athletic department (or the basketball program specifically) has, they take into account the media landscape of 2018 and not that of 1988. Thirty years ago, you could keep a kid from doing interviews for a semester, and that would be enough to make sure they were focused on basketball and studies and getting acclimated to college life. Because the only way anyone could get an interview was by calling the basketball office and asking for one. And the only people who would do so were "traditional" journalists (TV, radio, print). Now, I (not a journalist in ANY sense, traditional or not), could request an interview with a kid via Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, email, and probably 50 other avenues that didn't exist even a decade ago.
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Post by SaxaCD on Apr 27, 2018 12:09:16 GMT -5
Dickerson is the best Public Relations guys for the Hoyas I've seen in a while. I really do wish him every success in life, because he is a true Hoya, one year or not.
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Post by sgbohoya on Apr 27, 2018 12:47:24 GMT -5
Red solo cups, Jager, and bubbly...I applaud it, but would recommend cropping out!
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Apr 27, 2018 13:04:30 GMT -5
Red solo cups, Jager, and bubbly...I applaud it, but would recommend cropping out! At first I didn't even notice the red cups etc. Don't see why they need to crop it out. They are both over 21 and their season is over and are probably celebrating the end of the school year as one of them will be graduating and maybe the other is close to completing his Masters degree. Also your making the assumption that they are partaking of the libations. I see absolutely nothing wrong with the pic and no need to crop anything out....
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Post by iheartdurenbros on Apr 27, 2018 13:07:39 GMT -5
Georgetown Day. It starts early. By noon a lot of students are pretty wasted.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Apr 27, 2018 13:49:39 GMT -5
You can drink bottled soda and juice out of plastic cups. Especially, if you don’t want to wash glasses. That’s how I rolled.
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Post by SaxaCD on Apr 27, 2018 14:27:10 GMT -5
The solo cups make me even happier.
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Post by sleepy on Apr 27, 2018 15:24:31 GMT -5
You are talking (no pun) about interviews for for one semester. Their play is the marketing power. Not what they say in the interview. One semester where they can just focus on basketball and studies and getting acclimated to college life. That is also part of our of brand. We'll do what it takes to ensure your success on and off the court. Parents see that. And there are young recruits out there that also notice it. It really isn't that big of a deal, really. It helps the student. Can't hurt. I just hope that whatever media policies the athletic department (or the basketball program specifically) has, they take into account the media landscape of 2018 and not that of 1988. Thirty years ago, you could keep a kid from doing interviews for a semester, and that would be enough to make sure they were focused on basketball and studies and getting acclimated to college life. Because the only way anyone could get an interview was by calling the basketball office and asking for one. And the only people who would do so were "traditional" journalists (TV, radio, print). Now, I (not a journalist in ANY sense, traditional or not), could request an interview with a kid via Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, email, and probably 50 other avenues that didn't exist even a decade ago. Is there any reason to think they haven't? Have we had any social media scandals or players making mistakes there that would leave one to believe they haven't had proper training on social media? Have any of our former players had social media or media troubles either? I'm confused about the overall tone of this conversation that just because Georgetown protects their freshman and lighten their load for 6 whole weeks that they are operating from a media playbook of the 80s. Clearly, our players are media savy and well trained on all the platforms. Its just strange.
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Post by HometownHoya on Apr 27, 2018 16:21:57 GMT -5
Only "social media scandal" that I've seen recently was the incident with Sodom. If it wasn't for social media, the only reports of what actually happened would have been hearsay but instead there was a filmed account. Not that the "media rule" would have stopped that anyway.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 28, 2018 8:23:18 GMT -5
The most successful college hoops program in the country has all of its players sign an agreement to stay off all social media from the first day of practice through the last game of the season.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2018 11:21:09 GMT -5
I just hope that whatever media policies the athletic department (or the basketball program specifically) has, they take into account the media landscape of 2018 and not that of 1988. Thirty years ago, you could keep a kid from doing interviews for a semester, and that would be enough to make sure they were focused on basketball and studies and getting acclimated to college life. Because the only way anyone could get an interview was by calling the basketball office and asking for one. And the only people who would do so were "traditional" journalists (TV, radio, print). Now, I (not a journalist in ANY sense, traditional or not), could request an interview with a kid via Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, email, and probably 50 other avenues that didn't exist even a decade ago. Is there any reason to think they haven't? Have we had any social media scandals or players making mistakes there that would leave one to believe they haven't had proper training on social media? Have any of our former players had social media or media troubles either? I'm confused about the overall tone of this conversation that just because Georgetown protects their freshman and lighten their load for 6 whole weeks that they are operating from a media playbook of the 80s. Clearly, our players are media savy and well trained on all the platforms. Its just strange. I don’t think there’s any reason to believe that we haven’t. I think that the argument over whether or not we should allow freshmen to “speak to the media” or “do interviews” first semester is a silly one, considering the media landscape today. Applying the same rule/policy that JT Jr applied 30 years ago in the same way would make no sense. That’s all I was trying to say.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 29, 2018 10:46:29 GMT -5
My impression was the same practice of not having freshmen do media interviews until the second semester was in place last year, simply based on observation but I also think one of the stories written referred to it in an offhand way but I’m not going to spend the morning searching for the cite (as my lawyer friends would say). I don’t have any direct insight into the current basketball information office, but I do know that Mex Carey spent quite a bit of time educating and advising the guys about social media as well as how to approach media interviews with reporters.
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