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Post by TC on Mar 31, 2017 11:23:22 GMT -5
I am going to convince myself that the search team is waiting for this Final Four weekend to do some real work. I'm sure it's a no but why wouldn't you try to back up a couple of Brink's trucks onto Mark Few's lawn?
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Post by hoya2x2010 on Mar 31, 2017 11:29:25 GMT -5
I am going to convince myself that the search team is waiting for this Final Four weekend to do some real work. I'm sure it's a no but why wouldn't you try to back up a couple of Brink's trucks onto Mark Few's lawn? Because it's beyond a no.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 31, 2017 11:32:03 GMT -5
Pretty sure Few has had better offers than us in the past and said no.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 31, 2017 11:44:45 GMT -5
I like Manning as a candidate for Grown, he's definitely worth a look.. Love him as a candidate. You think he'd take it though? Seems to have a good thing going at Wake. They've been down for a while, but Wake can be a winning program. At Wake he'll always be the third or fourth team in North Carolina plus battling it out in a tough conference..
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 31, 2017 11:47:59 GMT -5
How about Grant McCasland? He was the coach at Arkansas State, and was just hired at North Texas.
He's shown he can win at Verizon Center....
Okay, I'll show myself out.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2017 11:49:09 GMT -5
I like Manning as a candidate for Grown, he's definitely worth a look.. Love him as a candidate. You think he'd take it though? Seems to have a good thing going at Wake. They've been down for a while, but Wake can be a winning program. There's much to like about Wake - good school, solid bball history, enthusiasm, etc. But I'm sure you could come up with some arguments for GU over them. Most notably, they'll always be the "4th team" in NC & at best 6th or 7th in ACC. I'd say there's a much bigger window for sustained conference & national success here. The ACC is almost always gonna be Duke/UNC/Louisville/ND(less so) in their own little sub-conference, and everybody else in the 2nd division fighting for the other spots in the tourney and the spotlight from year to year. (sorry, Etomic -- i guess there's an echo in here)
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Post by This Just In on Mar 31, 2017 11:50:02 GMT -5
Love him as a candidate. You think he'd take it though? Seems to have a good thing going at Wake. They've been down for a while, but Wake can be a winning program. At Wake he'll always be the third or fourth team in North Carolina plus battling it out in a tough conference..
I thought the same thing about Kevin Keatts taking the NC State job.. Why?? He has seen what happened to the last several coaches that took the job. Seems like a coach killer state if you are not at Duke or North Carolina.
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Post by hoya2x2010 on Mar 31, 2017 12:02:50 GMT -5
Love him as a candidate. You think he'd take it though? Seems to have a good thing going at Wake. They've been down for a while, but Wake can be a winning program. At Wake he'll always be the third or fourth team in North Carolina plus battling it out in a tough conference.. Agree to a certain extent. He'll always be a little brother in NC, true, but he can still recruit effectively for his system. He will gladly take 3/4 star guys with the occasional beast, whereas Duke and UNC pull from a different pool of talent. Just my opinion.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 31, 2017 12:07:19 GMT -5
Manning lacks a discernable track record. One year does not make a turnaround. Besides, maybe Big John still remembers Seoul 1988.
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Post by ksf42001 on Mar 31, 2017 12:08:05 GMT -5
How about Grant McCasland? He was the coach at Arkansas State, and was just hired at North Texas. He's shown he can win at Verizon Center.... Okay, I'll show myself out. Joke execution would have been better if that game had been at Verizon, but I'll allow it...
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 31, 2017 12:09:06 GMT -5
Indonesia see Crean or III working this year.
They are basically getting 3 million the next year to do nothing. If they take a studio job they add an extra salary on top of that and can sell themselves and keep their name relevant.
So studio job plus hc salary
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Post by blueandgray on Mar 31, 2017 12:10:59 GMT -5
The things I take away from this : - the guys with the inside information (B&G, Ron, Casual) are all pushing to various degrees that the assistants, especially Broadus be retained in some form. Literally no one else is pushing this. I don't blame them for trying, but you can't kneecap an incoming coach by not letting them hire their own staff - Ron and Casual are justifying this in part by saying we won't have time to sign people in the spring. You let the assistants try to sign kids to a program that doesn't have a head coach yet - you're not going to get good players (who wants to sign on to a ghost program that could hire a coach who potentially doghouses you?) and you make the job less attractive to incoming coaches who want all the slots for their guys. The best rebuild situation is a blank slate - you've got tremendously low expectations and all the control. - worst possible scenario is we end up with an interim coach because we panic about spring recruiting 5th years and transfers. Especially if an interim coach ends up being one of our assistants who have bombed out at small programs. It sends a perception message that no one wants this job, it sends a perception message to recruits that the program isn't a good one and doesn't have it's ducks in a row. I can't think of anything that would set our program back more. I doubt the committee ends up at that point. They'll hire someone. - I wouldn't freak out about 5 no's. May just mean we inquired about a lot of home runs. I'd have hoped we racked up more home run no's than 5. For the record, I don't believe any of the assts will be retained. For our sake, I was hoping Broadus would be....but I highly doubt it.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 31, 2017 12:35:09 GMT -5
Indonesia see Crean or III working this year. They are basically getting 3 million the next year to do nothing. If they take a studio job they add an extra salary on top of that and can sell themselves and keep their name relevant. So studio job plus hc salary Unless Crean takes our job, I think you're right. There simply aren't any openings of the nature that Crean or JT3 would take at the moment. If JT3 wants to coach again, I think his name will be among the top choices next season when the coaching carousel starts. On JT3, my sense is that there are probably a lot of factors at play, including his kids. I am sure there are plenty of universities JT3 would be happy coaching at, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are the right fit. And that same thing goes for our position - there may be some coaches (like Hurley) where it seems like an obviously good move, yet outside factors we don't know could change the considerations.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 31, 2017 12:35:12 GMT -5
Makes sense, if we are doing a real world search. The new guy needs to bring his own people. It's not like JT3 kept JJ. The irony of it is, he probably would have his job now if he did.
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Post by thedragon on Mar 31, 2017 12:37:28 GMT -5
I keep hearing through the grapevine that its Amaker's job to turn down at this point. SMH.
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Post by augustusfinknottle on Mar 31, 2017 12:40:48 GMT -5
I keep hearing through the grapevine that its Amaker's job to turn down at this point. SMH. You mean he's been mulling it all this time and Tags is letting himself dangle? No way.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 31, 2017 12:45:12 GMT -5
I am not a big Crean guy, and at this point I don't think he will get the job, although I do think he could turn the program around as quickly as anyone else. He always struck me as a little nuts and really annoying to watch on TV. I realize there are always two sides to any story and I am sure there are probably some negative things that could be written about him, but if even half the stuff in that story are true, then I think Georgetown could do much worse than hiring a guy like him. Great article, and obviously told from a certain perspective, but I think it's meaningful. I really do think Crean is one of the best options out there. Maybe not a first or second choice, but I would prefer him over a lot of the names here. I realize that the fan-base has called him "Creepy Crean" over the years, and he's not perfect, but we could do a lot worse. And I know there are some insinuations that people in Milwaukee were turned off by him, but the guy can recruit, he's never gotten into NCAA trouble, and based on the article above he seems like a good person overall. He "checks the boxes" so to speak. And he's miles better than Amaker.
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Post by thedragon on Mar 31, 2017 12:49:14 GMT -5
I keep hearing through the grapevine that its Amaker's job to turn down at this point. SMH. You mean he's been mulling it all this time and Tags is letting himself dangle? No way. No. He was only offered yesterday if the rumor mill is right.
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Post by gunny on Mar 31, 2017 12:50:41 GMT -5
You mean he's been mulling it all this time and Tags is letting himself dangle? No way. No. He was only offered yesterday if the rumor mill is right. PLEASE NO - NO AMAKER!
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Post by This Just In on Mar 31, 2017 12:53:37 GMT -5
No. He was only offered yesterday if the rumor mill is right. PLEASE NO - NO AMAKER! Tommy Amaker may be pushed down our throats whether we like it or not.
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