McBricks
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Post by McBricks on Mar 23, 2017 17:12:57 GMT -5
I really do think the California job wouldn't be a bad opening for JT3 if he wanted to immediately get back into the fray. There would be less pressure there and he'd fit a good academic university. Being on the West Coast would obviously be a huge change, but no bigger than Hopkins' change at Washington. Totally agree that the Cal (Berkeley) job is attractive and would be a great fit for JTIII. THere's literally no pressure to win there. But I don't see him moving across the country at this point. How about we go after the another Cal school that made the tourney this year? Your UC Davis Aggies seem to be able to play. Sadly, I don't know their coach's name.
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calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Mar 23, 2017 17:56:27 GMT -5
JT III can coach and has proven that and will prove it again elsewhere. However, he had run his course at Georgetown and will benefit from this eventually. The next coach may ultimately not be as good, but that does not mean change was unnecessary. I wish JT III well and will hope that those in the Administration can make a thorough review of potential hires to attempt to right the ship. Like everyone else here I reserve the right to moan over their choice but like most I will be eagerly following the program again in the next few months, which is something that would not have otherwise occurred.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Mar 23, 2017 19:03:39 GMT -5
I find it to be not believable, the report that the board fired III. Can't see an oversight board forcing its president to do this against his will.
Of all the possible replacements mentioned only Shaka Smart makes any sense to me although I believe character will play a big part in the selection and I know absolutely nothing, good or bad, about Shaka's character.
If you want someone who is basketball smart, is a leader, and is of high character, try Jon Wallace. I know, I know, it would be a risk. But of course Georgetown took another risk when it hired JTII.
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bmartin
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Post by bmartin on Mar 23, 2017 19:05:57 GMT -5
Is Obama looking for a new challenge? Nobody would out recruit him.
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CTHoya08
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Post by CTHoya08 on Mar 23, 2017 19:24:27 GMT -5
Is Obama looking for a new challenge? Nobody would out recruit him. He's used to the travel, already lives in DC, and has the exact same amount of college coaching experience as Ewing.
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Mar 23, 2017 19:25:06 GMT -5
Is Obama looking for a new challenge? Nobody would out recruit him. But he has no interest in defense and is addicted to give aways...
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Mar 23, 2017 19:52:56 GMT -5
Time to move on from the Thompson Era of GU Basketball to a brand new era...
For the second time since JT2 left, the students united behind a common goal, demanded action from a silent Administration and, before the scheduled protest rally, have gotten their desired results. Congratulations to the students!
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kettlehill
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Post by kettlehill on Mar 23, 2017 20:02:30 GMT -5
I did not like the way this went down, especially the lack of action during the last week ( Keats?) hopefully JT3 had a chance to resign and if he did.. but did not..so be it. Involvement of Tagliabue seems to indicate a desire by Administration to get the program back to relevance, which given their silence of late made me wonder.
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kettlehill
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Post by kettlehill on Mar 23, 2017 20:06:40 GMT -5
Time for some intensity on the sidelines: Mick Cronin, Shaka Smart......
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 23, 2017 20:11:52 GMT -5
Time to move on from the Thompson Era of GU Basketball to a brand new era... For the second time since JT2 left, the students united behind a common goal, demanded action from a silent Administration and, before the scheduled protest rally, have gotten their desired results. Congratulations to the students! Amazed that all the noise could not possibly have affected an 18 year old recruit, but could sway the Board of Trustees. I don't have any problem with students wanting to rally, but the idea that it influenced the final decision seems - um - unlikely.
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Post by gogu75 on Mar 23, 2017 20:15:39 GMT -5
I really do think the California job wouldn't be a bad opening for JT3 if he wanted to immediately get back into the fray. There would be less pressure there and he'd fit a good academic university. Being on the West Coast would obviously be a huge change, but no bigger than Hopkins' change at Washington. Totally agree that the Cal (Berkeley) job is attractive and would be a great fit for JTIII. THere's literally no pressure to win there. But I don't see him moving across the country at this point. How about we go after the another Cal school that made the tourney this year? Your UC Davis Aggies seem to be able to play. Sadly, I don't know their coach's name. Would be very surprised to see JT III get a power 5 job. If he still wants to coach he will have to go down to lower level and build himself back up, but I really doubt that he still has the fire for coaching.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 23, 2017 20:19:06 GMT -5
Totally agree that the Cal (Berkeley) job is attractive and would be a great fit for JTIII. THere's literally no pressure to win there. But I don't see him moving across the country at this point. How about we go after the another Cal school that made the tourney this year? Your UC Davis Aggies seem to be able to play. Sadly, I don't know their coach's name. Would be very surprised to see JT III get a power 5 job. If he still wants to coach he will have to go down to lower level and build himself back up, but I really doubt that he still has the fire for coaching. Look at some of the other bad coaches in Power 5 jobs. He could definitely get one. But I wouldn't blame him at all if he waited and took some time off.
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bamahoya11
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Post by bamahoya11 on Mar 23, 2017 20:32:08 GMT -5
Look at some of the other bad coaches in Power 5 jobs. He could definitely get one. But I wouldn't blame him at all if he waited and took some time off. It depends on what he wants. He could get a job in the Power 5 or at a mid-major/Ivy League type school. Just for his sake, I think he should take some time off. Watching him these past few seasons, he always looks so tired. The losses seemed to really wear on him, and I hope that they have not affected his health. I also think he would do really well as a television analyst because he can explain the game of basketball really well. Although they weren't always available, I really enjoyed his media availability going into games. I always tried to listen to them and thought he could do a really good job of explaining the keys to a game and the strengths of an opponent. Personally, I think it would be wise to do something like that for a couple years, see if he likes it, and get involves. Also, I have no idea if it's in the cards given the events of today, but if he wants to remain involved with Georgetown at some administrative level, I would strongly consider letting him. It may be far too tough for him right now to even think about serving as an ambassador between the program and University leadership, but we could do far, far worse.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Mar 23, 2017 20:44:42 GMT -5
Time to move on from the Thompson Era of GU Basketball to a brand new era... For the second time since JT2 left, the students united behind a common goal, demanded action from a silent Administration and, before the scheduled protest rally, have gotten their desired results. Congratulations to the students! Amazed that all the noise could not possibly have affected an 18 year old recruit, but could sway the Board if Trustees. I don't have any problem with students wanting to rally, but the idea that it influenced the final decision seems - um - unlikely. Both situations are completely different. Tremont did not ask for release because of the student noise. He wrote what he wrote. No need to rehash that one. Who says the new coach could not convince Tremont to come home? He's not released yet and the situation at GU has changed. As to JT3's firing, just like with Esh, the wave gathered momentum until it got to the point where the students called for and were ready to rally. Jack beat them to it... both times. The precedent is set.
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Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Mar 23, 2017 20:56:50 GMT -5
I think it was time to go for JT3 and I am glad the school made this decision, but I do wish the man success in his future. Regardless of how many feel about how he led the basketball program I don't think anyone can say he was anything less than a great representative for the university. He handled himself with class and dignity and ran a clean program, in a day where that seems very difficult for many coaches in such a competitive atmosphere. Couldnt agree more. His statement thanking the fans for support also shows his class and dignity. While on court wise, the past few years and the constant NCAA flame-outs were miserable, I would still like to hold on good memories ; Will always remember blowing out Duke at home, and making the sweet 16 and the FF. Even though some say he was not able to adjust himself to the current game, there is no denying that he worked extremely hard and there has not been anyone who was more stressed than him at the March Failures, so i really feel for him and wish him only the best in the future.
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TC
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Post by TC on Mar 23, 2017 21:02:17 GMT -5
Is Obama looking for a new challenge? Nobody would out recruit him. Half time speeches would be epic oratory, getting everyone fired up and ready to go.
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Post by gogu75 on Mar 23, 2017 21:13:07 GMT -5
Would be very surprised to see JT III get a power 5 job. If he still wants to coach he will have to go down to lower level and build himself back up, but I really doubt that he still has the fire for coaching. Look at some of the other bad coaches in Power 5 jobs. He could definitely get one. But I wouldn't blame him at all if he waited and took some time off. Why would any power 5 conf school offer him, given the performance of the GU program over the last few years? Their fan bases would rise in protest. The only people who think otherwise are his die-hard supporters on this board, who have been proven wrong game after game.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 23, 2017 21:14:17 GMT -5
Amazed that all the noise could not possibly have affected an 18 year old recruit, but could sway the Board if Trustees. I don't have any problem with students wanting to rally, but the idea that it influenced the final decision seems - um - unlikely. Both situations are completely different. Tremont did not ask for release because of the student noise. He wrote what he wrote. No need to rehash that one. Who says the new coach could not convince Tremont to come home? He's not released yet and the situation at GU has changed. As to JT3's firing, just like with Esh, the wave gathered momentum until it got to the point where the students called for and were ready to rally. Jack beat them to it... both times. The precedent is set. I respectfully believe you are being wildly naive if you really think the "threat" if a bunch of students protesting is what spurred the decision of the Board of Trustees.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 23, 2017 21:14:42 GMT -5
Look at some of the other bad coaches in Power 5 jobs. He could definitely get one. But I wouldn't blame him at all if he waited and took some time off. Why would any power 5 conf school offer him, given the performance of the GU program over the last few years? Their fan bases would rise in protest. The only people who think otherwise are his die-hard supporters on this board, who have been proven wrong game after game. Dude, give it up. JT3 is gone. You don't need to pretend like all 13 years he was at Georgetown were miserable anymore. They weren't. He was a top level coach for AT LEAST 9 years. How many of those are out there? The guy can coach and someone will hire him. It would not entirely shock me if he's hired somewhere else and does better than whoever we hire. I hope that's not true because I want our program to succeed at the highest level, but it also wouldn't shock me if we ended up with someone like Amaker.
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drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Mar 23, 2017 21:15:17 GMT -5
This had to happen but it is still sad. A decent, humble man. I just re-watched this and remembered how much joy he brought us in those early days. Thank you Coach!! Watching this video really highlights why it was time for JT3 to go. Notice how unprepared Duke was for all the backdoor cuts. How wide open the passing lanes were. Sadly, by the 2014 season teams, especially BE teams had seen it and knew how to defense it. For the past 3 years I have never seen a BE team as unprepared for our offense as Duke, and other teams, were back then. In short, college bball caught up to JT3.
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