njhoya78
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 23, 2017 15:25:33 GMT -5
I am certain the best days of Georgetown basketball are officially behind us now. 3/23/17 will always be a solemn day. RIP Hoyas. A little overdramatic. However, the next coach will have that specter over his shoulder. . .a bad hire and additional years of bad basketball could doom the program.
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Post by smokeyjack on Mar 23, 2017 15:28:26 GMT -5
I am certain the best days of Georgetown basketball are officially behind us now. 3/23/17 will always be a solemn day. RIP Hoyas. Drama much? Give me a break.
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Post by TC on Mar 23, 2017 15:29:49 GMT -5
Till about 5 hours ago, we heard the same thing from the Fire JT3 people.
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Post by Filo on Mar 23, 2017 15:35:06 GMT -5
I am certain the best days of Georgetown basketball are officially behind us now. 3/23/17 will always be a solemn day. RIP Hoyas. A little overdramatic. However, the next coach will have that specter over his shoulder. . .a bad hire and additional years of bad basketball could doom the program. I think it is more than a little over-dramatic. The University managed to make a good hire when they brought in JTIII and they can do it again. Unfortunately, JTIII wasn't able to maintain the success he achieved early on. The reasons for that have been discussed ad nauseam on the JTIII thread. There is no reason this program cannot identify and bring in a solid coach who can move the program forward. It is in a bad state right now given the roster changes, but that is short-term. It is in far better shape overall than it was when Esherick was let go, not the least of which is because of the dramatically improved facilities. Furthermore, the BE is solid, with great basketball and a good TV contract in place. This should be a new beginning and not the end of the program.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Mar 23, 2017 15:36:07 GMT -5
I go for a doctor's appointment and all hell breaks loose. I am sorry to see JTIII go. I have met both JTIII and JTII here in Las Vegas, and both were very gracious. I would have liked to see JTIII go out on his own terms, but it sounds as if he was fired. Seems like Hoyas '17-'18 are going to be like UNLV '16-'17.
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Post by the_way on Mar 23, 2017 15:42:59 GMT -5
Nothing but love for JTIII.
Some great times and memories over the years with III as the coach.
He gave it his all.
He tried everything to make it work.
Can't imagine what is going through his head right now.
Ironically, it could be relief.
When III won initially, his Father's shadow was non-existent.
These past 2 years, it loomed large with the new building and the team struggling.
Now he can take some much needed time off and clear his head.
The man can coach. There is so much opportunity if he decides to coach again.
Having a fresh start where he can just be a coach and focus on basketball again might be the best thing for him.
I wish all the best to him and his family during this time and in the future.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 23, 2017 15:48:21 GMT -5
A little overdramatic. However, the next coach will have that specter over his shoulder. . .a bad hire and additional years of bad basketball could doom the program. I think it is more than a little over-dramatic. The University managed to make a good hire when they brought in JTIII and they can do it again. Unfortunately, JTIII wasn't able to maintain the success he achieved early on. The reasons for that have been discussed ad nauseam on the JTIII thread. There is no reason this program cannot identify and bring in a solid coach who can move the program forward. It is in a bad state right now given the roster changes, but that is short-term. It is in far better shape overall than it was when Esherick was let go, not the least of which is because of the dramatically improved facilities. Furthermore, the BE is solid, with great basketball and a good TV contract in place. This should be a new beginning and not the end of the program. JTIII wasn't a bad coach or a bad recruiter. He was also able to utilize the Georgetown brand to its fullest, something no one we hire will be able to do. I'm not saying the job itself won't attract good candidates or the university won't make the best hire. Its just that there don't seem to be many great candidates out there that I'd even want over III for another year, unfortunately. I think Shaka is overrated and would be a disaster here. Amakar is a big no. Rice is the only option that even seems a little interesting and there are still some huge issues there. Finding a great coach is like lightning in a bottle, we got lucky twice. The program needed a change though, and III is ultimately responsible for putting himself in this position. Its just unfortunate it ended up coming to this. Definitely work cast scenario for all involved.
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Post by ahoya2 on Mar 23, 2017 15:51:41 GMT -5
I am saddened. If you look at his overall record he was a successful coach. He is a good man. Time to move on. For God's sake get past older beat up coaches -Amaker, Crean etc and find a youngster who has been successful at a smaller program. Love Patrick but no experience managing a major college program.
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Post by ahoya2 on Mar 23, 2017 15:53:10 GMT -5
You have to be dreaming. If you think anything that occurred on this board had anything to do with the decision you are dreaming
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sleepy
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Post by sleepy on Mar 23, 2017 16:06:12 GMT -5
You have to be dreaming. If you think anything that occurred on this board had anything to do with the decision you are dreaming I think "the board" means the Georgetown Board, not this one.
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Post by NCHoya on Mar 23, 2017 16:06:31 GMT -5
Despite my desire to move on, I can certainly appreciate what JT3 did for the university and basketball program. Without III the new facility would not have been built and Georgetown would have fallen into further irrelevance in 2004. III always repped the University well and I am not happy that it did not work out, I doubt anyone is. We all wish we were playing tonight in the Sweet 16 with III on the sideline.
However, this is not the case and it has been a struggle. I look forward to seeing what is next for the Hoyas, but I will not forget the contributions III made in his 13 years as HC at Georgetown. I am certain he will have another opportunity to coach if he wants it and I hope he does well.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 23, 2017 16:08:36 GMT -5
Nothing but love for JTIII. Some great times and memories over the years with III as the coach. He gave it his all. He tried everything to make it work. Can't imagine what is going through his head right now. Ironically, it could be relief. When III won initially, his Father's shadow was non-existent. These past 2 years, it loomed large with the new building and the team struggling. Now he can take some much needed time off and clear his head. The man can coach. There is so much opportunity if he decides to coach again. Having a fresh start where he can just be a coach and focus on basketball again might be the best thing for him. I wish all the best to him and his family during this time and in the future. If he gets another shot (which he should, and I expect) I wouldn't be surprised if he's back in the tournament before we are. Not saying this wasn't the right decision to make, as the program implosion had gotten out of hand, just that it a very unfortunate situation.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 23, 2017 16:34:04 GMT -5
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Post by hoyajmw on Mar 23, 2017 16:38:48 GMT -5
... Edit Note: 464 people viewing Hoyatalk, good for the board. Don't know the last time that many people were on this board. The fight in China ramped up the viewers on the board to about 1200 at its peak as I recall; of course, DFW will know for certain if we had anything near even 400 since then (and I'm thinking the 1200 has to be the record).
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 23, 2017 16:41:28 GMT -5
Of course, this assumes there won't be a Thompson again in the future. It's hard to envision now, but let's say JT3 goes somewhere else and repeats his success there, Georgetown has no success and there's another opening in 5-7 years. Highly, highly unlikely. But never say never.
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Post by tullamore2 on Mar 23, 2017 16:56:43 GMT -5
Never
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Post by madgesiq92 on Mar 23, 2017 17:02:09 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarad on Mar 23, 2017 17:06:06 GMT -5
Some of the names mentioned on ESPN 980 like Eddie Jordan...you can't be serious. No way. That guy just fell off a cliff.
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 23, 2017 17:06:36 GMT -5
He is not leaving Uconn for any job, and specifically not Georgetown Mens Basketball. Lets just get that straight now. Clearly. At this point especially with a new 5 yr deal just signed and his age( 62?) he's probably finishing up with uconn. You do realize that GTown men's head coach was fired and not the women's head coach? Geno wouldn't turn anything around because he couldn't dominate recruiting on the men's level. There are more than 5 good mens players entering the ranks each year and he wouldn't get 3 of the 5 to GTown anyway........
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 23, 2017 17:10:14 GMT -5
I really do think the California job wouldn't be a bad opening for JT3 if he wanted to immediately get back into the fray. There would be less pressure there and he'd fit a good academic university. Being on the West Coast would obviously be a huge change, but no bigger than Hopkins' change at Washington.
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