turbohoya
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Post by turbohoya on Mar 15, 2017 11:29:02 GMT -5
Side note, for the benefit of others this is how I understand Glide's thought process: 1) PGs are very important 2) JT3 has moved past the Princeton Phase and now understands he needs better PG play 3) We were close last year to a good PG (Bracey) and almost had a great one in Waters 4) Fan negativity and all those who don't understand basketball are part of the problem as dumb Casual articles and rebelling fans are derailing JT3's project...
Side note: in a different forum I was asked if I know anything about basketball by glide so please feel free to disregard on the basis of his accusation...
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Mar 15, 2017 11:30:11 GMT -5
www.coachesclipboard.net/PrincetonOffense.html <your website, picture of JT3 in article about "Princeton Offense" Glide: Do you think that a so/so article by Casual Hoya has more to do with recruits not coming here than playing style? WAKE UP!
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Mar 15, 2017 11:31:39 GMT -5
Side note, for the benefit of others this is how I understand Glide's thought process: 1) PGs are very important 2) JT3 has moved past the Princeton Phase and now understands he needs better PG play 3) We were close last year to a good PG (Bracey) and almost had a great one in Waters 4) Fan negativity and all those who don't understand basketball are part of the problem as dumb Casual articles and rebelling fans are derailing JT3's project... Side note: in a different forum I was asked if I know anything about basketball by glide so please feel free to disregard on the basis of his accusation... You were right until you got to 4.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Mar 15, 2017 11:33:03 GMT -5
BTW, Hoyas offense is called the Georgetown offense. This was noted in 2013. #fact
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turbohoya
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Post by turbohoya on Mar 15, 2017 11:33:34 GMT -5
www.coachesclipboard.net/PrincetonOffense.html <your website, picture of JT3 in article about "Princeton Offense" Glide: Do you think that a so/so article by Casual Hoya has more to do with recruits not coming here than playing style? WAKE UP! is that a yes or a no? been awake for hours but I think you mean it in a more abstract way... I am asking you if you think that a so/so article by Casual Hoya has more to do with recruits not coming here than playing style?
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Mar 15, 2017 11:37:07 GMT -5
is that a yes or a no? been awake for hours but I think you mean it in a more abstract way... I am asking you if you think that a so/so article by Casual Hoya has more to do with recruits not coming here than playing style? This is not a so-so article by Casual Hoyas. It's a devastating article! There's nothing wrong with the Hoyas playing style except for the fact we have guards who are not skilled enough to get the job done on a "consistent" basis. And in this particular case heck yeah!
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Post by hoya2x2010 on Mar 15, 2017 11:44:37 GMT -5
BTW, Hoyas offense is called the Georgetown offense. This was noted in 2013. #fact Shocking that nobody else has adopted the Georgetown Offense!
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turbohoya
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Post by turbohoya on Mar 15, 2017 11:45:25 GMT -5
BTW, Hoyas offense is called the Georgetown offense. This was noted in 2013. #fact Hoyas offense is called the Georgetown offense and it looks a little bit, at times a lot, like the Princeton offense requiring fluid movement by all five players, puts a premium on instant decision making by all five players and relies in particular on wings' shooting ability and skilled big men... From the death announcement of the Princeton that you tagged: “In my head, I want to get five, skilled unselfish guys on the court. In my head, I want to get guys that can play multiple positions,” continued Thompson. “I HATE the concept of, “I’m a one, you’re two, you’re a three, a four, a five.” I don’t coach like that. Now , in the course of playing, will (guard) Markel Starks , (guard) D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera have the ball in their hands bringing the ball up the court more than (frontcourt options) Josh Smith and Mikael Hopkins and Nate Lubick will? “Absolutely, but if you just get guys who are basketball players, you don’t have to worry is Markel the one or is D’Vauntes the one, is Markel the two or is D’Vauntes the two. They both can do things that the one does and the two does. Depending on the matchups, the scouting report, each one does it.” Don't you think that a 'floor general' pure PG doesn't see this and say, maybe this is not where I get to be POINT GUARD!?
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AltoSaxa
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Post by AltoSaxa on Mar 15, 2017 11:46:34 GMT -5
Juvenile attempt at causation. An offense that hi lites the benefits and needs of a point-forward is not an offense an elite guard wants to play in. Waters signed with a commitment from the coaching staff that the offense was going to change. It did not. We still have 7 footers at the top of the key facilitating the offense and swatting at opposing guards. Even the BB talking heads are saying that the commitment was tenuous at best.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Mar 15, 2017 11:54:14 GMT -5
BTW, Hoyas offense is called the Georgetown offense. This was noted in 2013. #fact Hoyas offense is called the Georgetown offense and it looks a little bit, at times a lot, like the Princeton offense requiring fluid movement by all five players, puts a premium on instant decision making by all five players and relies in particular on wings' shooting ability and skilled big men... From the death announcement of the Princeton that you tagged: “In my head, I want to get five, skilled unselfish guys on the court. In my head, I want to get guys that can play multiple positions,” continued Thompson. “I HATE the concept of, “I’m a one, you’re two, you’re a three, a four, a five.” I don’t coach like that. Now , in the course of playing, will (guard) Markel Starks , (guard) D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera have the ball in their hands bringing the ball up the court more than (frontcourt options) Josh Smith and Mikael Hopkins and Nate Lubick will? “Absolutely, but if you just get guys who are basketball players, you don’t have to worry is Markel the one or is D’Vauntes the one, is Markel the two or is D’Vauntes the two. They both can do things that the one does and the two does. Depending on the matchups, the scouting report, each one does it.” Don't you think that a 'floor general' pure PG doesn't see this and say, maybe this is not where I get to be POINT GUARD!? Who saw this? Tremont Waters, Daquan Bracey, Kris Jenkins (guard) more...Obviously, and again it is now known that the Hoyas need a couple of floor generals. Not "require," but "need." WAKE UP! I'm trying to help you.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Mar 15, 2017 11:58:42 GMT -5
Juvenile attempt at causation. An offense that hi lites the benefits and needs of a point-forward is not an offense an elite guard wants to play in. Waters signed with a commitment from the coaching staff that the offense was going to change. It did not. We still have 7 footers at the top of the key facilitating the offense and swatting at opposing guards. Even the BB talking heads are saying that the commitment was tenuous at best. LOL. Yeah Right. Keep guessing! Is not an offense an elite guard wants to play in. Floor general or just a guard??? When asked the question of do you think you can play in JT3's offense. Tremont's response was, "any point guard should be able to play in any offense. We are the playmakers, and are the ones that have to figure out things in a split second! Your floor generals are to demand the ball. That's ok if Jesse wants to come up and shoot a three or make a pass. Nothing wrong with this as long as it's done within the context of the Hoyas offense. BB talking heads??? , the hell do they know?
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Mar 15, 2017 11:59:01 GMT -5
Such a silly thread!!!! I am pretty sure mass transfers, game end collapses and the scoreboard ultimately had something to do with it. But go ahead...blame the media.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Mar 15, 2017 11:59:22 GMT -5
Denial is a _________________.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Mar 15, 2017 12:00:07 GMT -5
Such a silly thread!!!! I am pretty sure mass transfers, game end collapses and the scoreboard ultimately had something to do with it. But go ahead...blame the media. Only thing is silly is these people not knowing deleted is going on LOL!
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sweetness
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Post by sweetness on Mar 15, 2017 12:04:35 GMT -5
Whether it's the Princeton offense or the Georgetown offense, either way it's terrible! And by the way Princeton is in the tourney this year, so I'd rather have the Princeton offense.
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AltoSaxa
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Post by AltoSaxa on Mar 15, 2017 12:08:28 GMT -5
Such a silly thread!!!! I am pretty sure mass transfers, game end collapses and the scoreboard ultimately had something to do with it. But go ahead...blame the media. Only thing is silly is these people not knowing wtf is going on LOL! Your argument may hold more (teensy bit more) weight if you didn't engage in such hyperbole (and perhaps better grammar and syntax). Given your profound expertise in Basketball how come we haven't heard of you on the national scene?
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Mar 15, 2017 12:13:35 GMT -5
Only thing is silly is these people not knowing deleted is going on LOL! Your argument may hold more (teensy bit more) weight if you didn't engage in such hyperbole (and perhaps better grammar and syntax). Given your profound expertise in Basketball how come we haven't heard of you on the national scene? I get right to the point. I go over and over and over and over and over this same stuff all the time! You're not my teacher? Is this all you got? No facts?I'm not writing for you or to impress anyone else. Obviously you've read what I've written. The reason why you never heard of me on the national scene is maybe because of my skin color. People don't like the truth these days. Pls don't forget this? thanks. Hmm. Your move.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Mar 15, 2017 12:15:01 GMT -5
Whether it's the Princeton offense or the Georgetown offense, either way it's terrible! And by the way Princeton is in the tourney this year, so I'd rather have the Princeton offense. No, it's not terrible. No one says a word when it's ran correctly. Yes, Princeton is in the tourney this years running their offense??? Hmmm. Good for you.
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Post by hoya2x2010 on Mar 15, 2017 12:17:40 GMT -5
Only thing is silly is these people not knowing wtf is going on LOL! Your argument may hold more (teensy bit more) weight if you didn't engage in such hyperbole (and perhaps better grammar and syntax). Given your profound expertise in Basketball how come we haven't heard of you on the national scene? *accuses another poster of poor grammar / syntax* *immediately uses the phrase "how come" Never change, hoyatalk.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 15, 2017 12:23:15 GMT -5
I'm not trying to read glide's mind, but to the extent that there are 'articles' out there on a quasi-journalistic website such as the one in question, those can be taken and used as negative recruiting information on the trail so to speak. The subject could range from how awful the offense is to strident criticism of the coaching staff / program to a negative evaluation of a recruit on a supposedly friendly site. I'm not naive enough to think that recruits immediately come to places like here or there to read what is written about them not am I naive enough to believe recruiters from elsewhere would refrain from putting it in said recruit's face.
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