drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Feb 1, 2017 17:56:57 GMT -5
Well it is not just one game. LJ is good for at least one charge a game. Given his tendency to commit one or two over aggressive fouls on defense per game, even one charge can force him to the bench for extended minutes. That's his game, Frazier. It's going to happen. But I totally agree that he could be even more effective on his drives if he developed the ability to sometimes pull up or shoot the Vee floater. Yes LJ commits those offensive fouls when he drives the lane when we are in our standard sorta Princeton offense. But he doesn't, or rarely does, when we are running a spread offense. Why can't we run more plays like we did on the last play last night? Obviously defenses will dictate when we can but JT3 should let these guys know that when our opponents are playing m to m to spread the floor and let LJ do his thing.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 1, 2017 23:13:01 GMT -5
Are the 5+ fouls / 40 min. accurate too? Yes, last year Peak averaged more than 5 fouls per 40 minutes. This year several of our players are still over 5 fouls per 40 minutes. They are Govan (5.2), Hayes (5.2), Agau (6.4), Derrickson (5.1). And Mulmore (4.8), Mosely (4.8), and Kaleb Johnson (4.9) are high too. Bottom line: we have several guys who foul way too much.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Feb 1, 2017 23:34:38 GMT -5
Come out flat against the Hall and we're going to be in trouble in a hurry.
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GIGAFAN99
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Feb 2, 2017 6:41:47 GMT -5
Come out flat against the Hall and we're going to be in trouble in a hurry. On paper this should be a bad match up for Seton Hall. On the floor, that would assume the Hoyas can focus on rebounding fundamentals for 40 minutes enough to just be average. We'll see.
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drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Feb 2, 2017 11:02:11 GMT -5
Watched Seton Hall lose to Xavier last night. One thing very obvious about SH. They are physical. This game will be the first real test of not just our athletic ability, coaching, and training but also our guts. We really have to be ready to fight for rebounds and loose balls. All our guys, but especially our bigs, have to show up. And that means also taking it to their bigs and drawing fouls. This is going to be a perfect test of our intestinal fortitude and will go a long way in determining if we are truly tournament worthy.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Feb 2, 2017 11:10:58 GMT -5
Watched Seton Hall lose to Xavier last night. One thing very obvious about SH. They are physical. This game will be the first real test of not just our athletic ability, coaching, and training but also our guts. We really have to be ready to fight for rebounds and loose balls. All our guys, but especially our bigs, have to show up. And that means also taking it to their bigs and drawing fouls. This is going to be a perfect test of our intestinal fortitude and will go a long way in determining if we are truly tournament worthy. If we can't beat Seton Hall at home, we don't belong in the Tournament. PERIOD!
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s4hoyas
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Post by s4hoyas on Feb 2, 2017 12:02:48 GMT -5
Well, we lost to them twice last year...they are going to be tough based on what I saw last night..Delgado is a beast and is relentless on the boards...Rodriquez is a tough matchup because he's a physical 3/4 who is athletic and can shoot from outside...Powell is a very dangerous 3 pt. shooter (must have hit at least 5-6 last night)...and Carrington has been wearing a bandaid/tape on his shooting hand but is a very dangerous shooter/scorer especially if he can remove the bandage (he almost won it last night with a 3 that went in and out at the buzzer...)...they play solid D...they will be desperate as they have lost several recently, but so should we be...we will have to be "all hands on deck" for this one...it will be a tough challenge so we need to bring it by everybody, including the fans.
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 2, 2017 12:09:16 GMT -5
Watched Seton Hall lose to Xavier last night. One thing very obvious about SH. They are physical. This game will be the first real test of not just our athletic ability, coaching, and training but also our guts. We really have to be ready to fight for rebounds and loose balls. All our guys, but especially our bigs, have to show up. And that means also taking it to their bigs and drawing fouls. This is going to be a perfect test of our intestinal fortitude and will go a long way in determining if we are truly tournament worthy. If we can't beat Seton Hall at home, we don't belong in the Tournament. PERIOD! Checks out. We were swept by them in 2014 and 2016, and swept them in 2015.
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Post by triplehoya09 on Feb 2, 2017 12:13:32 GMT -5
Are the 5+ fouls / 40 min. accurate too? Yes, last year Peak averaged more than 5 fouls per 40 minutes. This year several of our players are still over 5 fouls per 40 minutes. They are Govan (5.2), Hayes (5.2), Agau (6.4), Derrickson (5.1). And Mulmore (4.8), Mosely (4.8), and Kaleb Johnson (4.9) are high too. Bottom line: we have several guys who foul way too much. Thanks. Those stats are terrible.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 2, 2017 13:10:51 GMT -5
Yes, last year Peak averaged more than 5 fouls per 40 minutes. This year several of our players are still over 5 fouls per 40 minutes. They are Govan (5.2), Hayes (5.2), Agau (6.4), Derrickson (5.1). And Mulmore (4.8), Mosely (4.8), and Kaleb Johnson (4.9) are high too. Bottom line: we have several guys who foul way too much. Thanks. Those stats are terrible. They really are terrible, and believe it or not, in some ways they were worse last year. Here's the thing: to some degree, you expect bigs to get into more foul trouble than guards. They are often the last line of defense, they often need to defend in situations that are more physical, and generally they are slower and more immobile than guards. What is more disturbing (and new this year) is that our guards (Mulmore and Mosely) are fouling a ton. Guards, particularly point guards, should not be fouling that much. Mulmore, in particular, tends to get ticky-tack fouls away from the basket (like unnecessary reaches) that are totally unnecessary. Just to take a look at Mulmore and Mosely's fouls against Xavier: Xavier Game: 1st half 1. Mosely, 19:28. Blocking foul, not necessary a bad foul (as it was close to a charge), and it was caused by Hayes' poor defense. 2. Mulmore, 7:58. Agau turns it over, and Mulmore runs down the Xavier player, 75 feet from the basket. Awful foul, and easily avoided. 3. Mosely, 1:09. Mosely holds Macura coming off a screen, bad technique, and avoided by playing smarter. 2nd half 4. Mosely, 19:17. Macura was wide open for three in transition (again, caused by Pryor being out of position because he was compensating for Hayes being slow), Mosely leaps at him and crashed into him, leading to 3 FTs. 5. Mulmore, 3:17. Agau misses a three, and Mulmore holds Sumner after he gets the rebound. It looked like intentional foul at the end of a game. Again, why? Not a smart play. 6. Mulmore @ 1:54, and Mosely at 1:47 - Intentional fouls at the end. Obviously, this is a small sample, but it tends to confirm my initial thought that Mulmore is prone to bad fouls more often than Mosely, though neither is perfect.
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hoyarad
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Post by hoyarad on Feb 2, 2017 19:24:35 GMT -5
Think Delgado goes for triple digits in rebounds? Guaranteed double double. At this point put Cameron on him with his only duty to put a body on him!
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 2, 2017 21:20:42 GMT -5
very very athletic team stop the big dude will need bradley hope yes ok and dont let powell get going with threes NBA RANGE.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Feb 2, 2017 21:22:51 GMT -5
meanary up for forty minutes OR MORE yup tough fast move on d and on offense RUN AND REBOUND DRIVE DRIVE DRIVE STOP POWELL FROM THE THREE STOP RODRIGUZ FROM DRIVING AND BATTLE DELGADO GOH OYAS
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Post by hoyajinx on Feb 3, 2017 6:01:44 GMT -5
Think Delgado goes for triple digits in rebounds? Guaranteed double double. At this point put Cameron on him with his only duty to put a body on him! If they put the over-under at 18 rebounds, I'd still take the over. And that's probably just on the offensive glass.
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Feb 3, 2017 8:25:11 GMT -5
Pretty simple game plan here. It's very unlikely we will win the rebounding battle so that means we need to take a lot of high percentage shots on offense and try to get their bigs (esp Delgado) into foul trouble. In other words, attack the basket early and often. Do that, and we can win.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 3, 2017 10:09:11 GMT -5
One good thing - Seton Hall is a horrible FT shooting team. They are the 348th worst FT shooting team in the country. Their starters shoot the following percentages: 65, 52, 63, 71, and 48.
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Post by lb25 on Feb 3, 2017 10:10:53 GMT -5
Rebounding and Energy on Defense
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Post by iheartdurenbros on Feb 3, 2017 10:42:29 GMT -5
Hoyas need lots of energy and hustle. Meanery.
Half court defense needs to be solid, especially at three point line. In the games I've seen, the Seton Hall guards can really hit threes but don't have alot of discipline and take alot of ill-advised shots.
This match up scares me though. There's no denying the quality of SH frontline between Sanogo and Delgado. SHU has enough flaws that our guys can win if they play a smart, tough game despite the disadvantage on the boards.
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Feb 3, 2017 10:58:16 GMT -5
With regard to defensive rebounding, as the year has progressed, we have rebounded better. In the last seven games (5-2), we have grabbed 80+ percent of the defensive caroms in five of those contests. Let's hope for a strong effort on the defensive glass tomorrow.
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Post by triplehoya09 on Feb 3, 2017 11:08:38 GMT -5
With regard to defensive rebounding, as the year has progressed, we have rebounded better. In the last seven games (5-2), we have grabbed 80+ percent of the defensive caroms in five of those contests. Let's hope for a strong effort on the defensive glass tomorrow. From your mouth to God's ears. And let's get Sanogo and Delgado in foul trouble. I'm looking at you LJ. Just for the love of God don't charge.
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