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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Oct 14, 2016 8:42:08 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 14, 2016 9:23:44 GMT -5
The article is actually written by Jeff Goodman, who you would think would know Isaac Copeland is not part of last year's 'heralded recruiting class.'
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Oct 14, 2016 9:43:40 GMT -5
The article is actually written by Jeff Goodman, who you would think would know Isaac Copeland is not part of last year's 'heralded recruiting class.' Well Ike did kinda play like a freshman last year. |
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 14, 2016 9:44:37 GMT -5
I'm troubled by the introduction of "relevance", which hasn't been brought up since the days of Barker Davis. Phrases like "Until that happens, the pressure will continue to mount for JT3" become red meat in those waters.
Articles like this on ESPN reintroduces a narrative to the national press and puts some added attention that Thompson is feeling heat. Unfortunately, it reads to an outsider that the coach's responses doesn't knock it down as much as express anxiety about it.
Georgetown won't be another 15 win team in 2016-17. But at 18 or 19, this chatter won't go away either.
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Post by Elvado on Oct 14, 2016 9:53:02 GMT -5
Don't they answer their own question when they continue to write about Georgetown?
We will always be relevant, if only as the butt of jokes. The question is will we be good?
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Oct 14, 2016 9:58:34 GMT -5
I'm troubled by the introduction of "relevance", which hasn't been brought up since the days of Barker Davis. Phrases like "Until that happens, the pressure will continue to mount for JT3" become red meat in those waters. Articles like this on ESPN reintroduces a narrative to the national press and puts some added attention that Thompson is feeling heat. Unfortunately, it reads to an outsider that the coach's responses doesn't knock it down as much as express anxiety about it. Georgetown won't be another 15 win team in 2016-17. But at 18 or 19, this chatter won't go away either. But isn't it a good thing he acknowledged there's pressure and he's feeling it? Isn't that preferable to him being complacent and thinking his spot is guaranteed? |
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Post by EtomicB on Oct 14, 2016 10:46:56 GMT -5
Don't they answer their own question when they continue to write about Georgetown? We will always be relevant, if only as the butt of jokes. The question is will we be good? Well stated.. |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Oct 14, 2016 11:37:50 GMT -5
Don't they answer their own question when they continue to write about Georgetown? We will always be relevant, if only as the butt of jokes. The question is will we be good? Depends on your definition of "relevant" - whether it means "important" or just "in the public consciousness". I refuse to characterize Miley Cyrus, the Kardashians or creepy clowns as " relevant". |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Oct 14, 2016 12:13:32 GMT -5
We have some great opportunities with the hard OOC schedule. If we were to come out strong and win some games where we are not favored (like Oregon in Maui), then suddenly you would start to see articles about Georgetown's possible "comeback." The media loves stories like that. Of course, until we win and get past the first weekend in March, changing the overall narrative is going to be tough.
Georgetown will always be "relevant" in the sense that we are a well-known high-major program with a good history, and Georgetown has supplied the NBA with several high quality players (even if most are retired). Do not underestimate the quick impact winning can have. You always see smaller schools who break through and they are suddenly relevant, at least for a little while (VCU is one good example). Winning = relevance.
Really, you don't have to look much farther than 2006-2007 to see this. When Esherick left the program, it was in tatters and many worried the era of dominant Georgetown basketball was over for good. JTIII came in, won fairly quickly, and suddenly we were relevant again.
Now, 2007 is a far way off. We need to win again.
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Post by eagle54 on Oct 14, 2016 18:37:39 GMT -5
We won't be relevant until we treat this program like a business that expects real results. The fact that we are continuing with the status quo is telling. Our lesser rival in the old BE just surpassed us as an all time program and we continue this debate with nothing happening. It's really sad what's happened to this program and I've pointed it out for some time. You can continue to discount my opinion or open your eyes. The current state of things isn't getting it done and believe it or not we have a brand (albeit diminishing) that we can use.
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Post by kchoya on Oct 14, 2016 20:10:23 GMT -5
We won't be relevant until we treat this program like a business that expects real results. The fact that we are continuing with the status quo is telling. Our lesser rival in the old BE just surpassed us as an all time program and we continue this debate with nothing happening. It's really sad what's happened to this program and I've pointed it out for some time. You can continue to discount my opinion or open your eyes. The current state of things isn't getting it done and believe it or not we have a brand (albeit diminishing) that we can use. Poor, poor dead horse. |
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Post by eagle54 on Oct 14, 2016 20:17:12 GMT -5
We won't be relevant until we treat this program like a business that expects real results. The fact that we are continuing with the status quo is telling. Our lesser rival in the old BE just surpassed us as an all time program and we continue this debate with nothing happening. It's really sad what's happened to this program and I've pointed it out for some time. You can continue to discount my opinion or open your eyes. The current state of things isn't getting it done and believe it or not we have a brand (albeit diminishing) that we can use. Poor, poor dead horse. You have an answer or just your tired old s....? |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Oct 14, 2016 21:05:20 GMT -5
Well now eagle, your post seems to make it clear that the only answer you would accept is to get rid of the coach - presumably as soon as tonight's event is over. Since that isn't happening, I guess there is no answer.
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Post by eagle54 on Oct 14, 2016 21:23:52 GMT -5
Well now eagle, your post seems to make it clear that the only answer you would accept is to get rid of the coach - presumably as soon as tonight's event is over. Since that isn't happening, I guess there is no answer. You can do better than this tired act? No? |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Oct 14, 2016 21:41:11 GMT -5
Well now eagle, your post seems to make it clear that the only answer you would accept is to get rid of the coach - presumably as soon as tonight's event is over. Since that isn't happening, I guess there is no answer. You can do better than this tired act? No? Whatever you say Kettle. |
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Post by eagle54 on Oct 14, 2016 21:47:21 GMT -5
You can do better than this tired act? No? Whatever you say Kettle. Good point. You continue your streak of posting nonsense. Well done FF. You deserve a medal but that's not my department. |
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Post by tashoya on Oct 14, 2016 21:59:31 GMT -5
Considering the coach has said that we're continuing to make changes to the offense to accommodate the quicker, more athletic personnel and that we now have, for the first time in over 225 years of school history, a state of the art athletic facility, you may need to look up what "status quo" means. Nothing has changed with regard to our play since last season because no games have been played yet. If you want to characterize things as "the same" without having seen a game this year, I guess that's your choice.
FWIW, you may not like the way the program is run but it is, in fact, run like a business. In fact, the most successful sporting business in the entire school that helps to support less successful sports.
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Post by eagle54 on Oct 14, 2016 22:06:32 GMT -5
the most successful sporting business in the entire school that helps to support less successful sports? I like that but loser mentality.
Is that your bar? Obviously it's the most successful sport in the school but hasn't done anything to carry the flag.
Time to face reality and quit kidding ourselves here.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Oct 14, 2016 22:36:48 GMT -5
Good point. You continue your streak of posting nonsense. Well done FF. You deserve a medal but that's not my department. Everybody else on this board knows exactly what I was saying, but sorry if it went over your head. For you to characterize others as having a tired act - the one who has given us more than 50 posts repeating the same thing - is the height of hypocrisy. We get it. We all get it. You want the coach gone. The fact that you feel the urgent need to chime in again on the night of the team's opening celebration emphasizes the stark fact that you are stridently hoping the team fails this season so that you can pound your chest and crow. That strikes me as so sad. But of course you have the right to approach the season however you prefer. |
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Post by eagle54 on Oct 14, 2016 22:42:38 GMT -5
Good point. You continue your streak of posting nonsense. Well done FF. You deserve a medal but that's not my department. Everybody else on this board knows exactly what I was saying, but sorry if it went over your head. For you to characterize others as having a tired act - the one who has given us more than 50 posts repeating the same thing - is the height of hypocrisy. We get it. We all get it. You want the coach gone. The fact that you feel the urgent need to chime in again on the night of the team's opening celebration emphasizes the stark fact that you are stridently hoping the team fails this season so that you can pound your chest and crow. That strikes me as so sad. But of course you have the right to approach the season however you prefer. Really? is that your read? You embarrass yourself with posts like this rather than being even remotely objective in anything you post. I speak facts and you continue the status quo. |
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