TC
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Post by TC on Nov 3, 2021 12:19:09 GMT -5
The biggest "fraud" today is the absentee ballot. Or online voting. Who knows who is voting here? And then there is Governor McAuliffe (sp.?) of Virginia who unilaterily decreed that felons who had paid their dues to society should be allowed to vote. Or the many efforts to enfranchise illegals. The voter fraud goes both ways. I still see nothing wrong with requiring a voter ID to be required to vote as long as we make it super easy to get a voter ID. It's funny how Democrats lose Virginia and yet none of us are calling for Republicans to be disenfrachised or making arguments that certain groups of people shouldn't be allowed to vote. No Democrat is blaming absentee ballots or early voting. Also, allowing people to vote doesn't seem to have meant that elections are a deterministic result.
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Nov 8, 2021 21:22:35 GMT -5
A friend of mine in Maryland said that McAuliffe had it all wrong. He should have screamed voter fraud and refused to concede, since that seems to be the accepted course of action these days.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Nov 18, 2021 22:02:38 GMT -5
www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/11/this-texas-county-shows-exactly-how-republicans-are-rolling-back-the-clock-on-voting-rights/
It was a scene that brought to mind the disenfranchisement of Black voters in the Jim Crow South.
For 22 years, Stephen Holmes has been the lone Black and minority county commissioner in Galveston County, Texas, a coastal area south of Houston. But under new redistricting maps adopted by the GOP-controlled commission on November 12, over the vocal objections of Democrats and African-Americans who attended the only public hearing on the matter, every commission seat will likely be held by white Republicans as part of a bid by the local GOP to “Keep Galveston County Red.” This will deprive communities of color of any political representation at the highest levels of local government in a county that is 45 percent non-white.What’s happening in Galveston isn’t an aberration, but part of a troubling trend that is playing out throughout Texas—and across the South—in which Republicans at all levels of state government are going to increasingly extreme lengths to preserve white GOP power by diluting the votes of communities of color in new maps drawn for the US House, state legislative seats, and local offices like county commission and city council districts.
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Nov 19, 2021 6:08:06 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 7, 2021 9:39:19 GMT -5
Racist vote suppressing bastards. That's your MAGA GOP. Can't win fair and square? Fix the game. Roberts gutted Section 5 in servitude to the racist GOP. Texas’s reckless, repeated efforts to diminish Black and Latino voting power is a vivid example of the new Jim Crow-style measures that would have been blocked had the pre-clearance provisions of Section 5 been in effect. Gupta noted, “Decade after decade, courts have found that Texas has enacted redistricting plans that deliberately dilute the voting strength of Latino and Black voters and that violate the Voting Rights Act.” This blatant attempt to put the thumb on the scale on behalf of White votes is what the VRA was designed to prevent. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2021/12/07/doj-is-struggling-protect-voting-rights-white-house-senate-must-help/
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2021 12:35:27 GMT -5
If successful, some would have a 46-mile round trip to vote.
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SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Dec 23, 2021 14:13:25 GMT -5
If successful, some would have a 46-mile round trip to vote. Have the effing authoritarians made it illegal to drive someone else to a polling place yet? MAGA GOPers = scum of the earth.
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Massholya
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Post by Massholya on Dec 23, 2021 14:44:47 GMT -5
If successful, some would have a 46-mile round trip to vote. What creeps. Absolutely disgusting.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 23, 2021 17:19:54 GMT -5
If successful, some would have a 46-mile round trip to vote. This garbage is exactly what Heather Magee describes in her book The Sum of Us The people who crave power don’t care that they’re hurting many folks who are on their side by trying to hold down the folks they hate. Sure closing all but one precinct will hurt the almost 1/3 black population of Lincoln County but it’s also going to hurt the over 2/3 white population as well… Absolutely shameful
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on Dec 24, 2021 15:52:01 GMT -5
If successful, some would have a 46-mile round trip to vote. I'm curious as to what the justification would be.
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Dec 24, 2021 20:25:55 GMT -5
If successful, some would have a 46-mile round trip to vote. I'm curious as to what the justification would be. The elimination of rampant voter fraud, of course.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2021 19:54:53 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2022 16:10:14 GMT -5
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Massholya
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Post by Massholya on Jan 5, 2022 20:00:33 GMT -5
A felony?! Does this mean these poor souls will lose the right to vote and purchase countless guns? Oh that’s unAmerican! Oh yeah. It’s Florida. They’ll probably be ok.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Jan 8, 2022 21:00:17 GMT -5
Recent Rasmussen survey showed about 80% of Americans supported photo ID to vote.
46 of 47 countries in Europe require government-issued photo ID to vote. Lone holdout is UK but it allows countries and localities within UK to require them.
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Post by tashoya on Jan 9, 2022 18:48:33 GMT -5
Recent Rasmussen survey showed about 80% of Americans supported photo ID to vote. 46 of 47 countries in Europe require government-issued photo ID to vote. Lone holdout is UK but it allows countries and localities within UK to require them. That's an interesting fact. Having said that, we have no statistically significant voter fraud. I wonder what percentage of Americans support hindering/blocking certain segments of the population from voting. Access to voting is a FAR larger issue in the USA than is voter fraud. As much as "Republicans" keep harping on it as if it's a huge problem, it isn't. They also don't care about voter fraud. They care about who gets to vote. Making it exceedingly difficult/impractical or, in some cases, impossible for minority communities to vote is a real thing and "Republicans" continue to exacerbate it.
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Post by hoyajinx on Jan 9, 2022 20:25:22 GMT -5
Recent Rasmussen survey showed about 80% of Americans supported photo ID to vote. 46 of 47 countries in Europe require government-issued photo ID to vote. Lone holdout is UK but it allows countries and localities within UK to require them. That's an interesting fact. Having said that, we have no statistically significant voter fraud. I wonder what percentage of Americans support hindering/blocking certain segments of the population from voting. Access to voting is a FAR larger issue in the USA than is voter fraud. As much as "Republicans" keep harping on it as if it's a huge problem, it isn't. They also don't care about voter fraud. They care about who gets to vote. Making it exceedingly difficult/impractical or, in some cases, impossible for minority communities to vote is a real thing and "Republicans" continue to exacerbate it. It’s a Rasmussen “poll”. It’s absolutely worthless. This is the same group that said Donald Trump had an approval rating north of 50%. They just make stuff up or only poll Republicans.
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Post by badgerhoya on Jan 9, 2022 20:26:39 GMT -5
Recent Rasmussen survey showed about 80% of Americans supported photo ID to vote. 46 of 47 countries in Europe require government-issued photo ID to vote. Lone holdout is UK but it allows countries and localities within UK to require them. That's an interesting fact. Having said that, we have no statistically significant voter fraud. I wonder what percentage of Americans support hindering/blocking certain segments of the population from voting. Access to voting is a FAR larger issue in the USA than is voter fraud. As much as "Republicans" keep harping on it as if it's a huge problem, it isn't. They also don't care about voter fraud. They care about who gets to vote. Making it exceedingly difficult/impractical or, in some cases, impossible for minority communities to vote is a real thing and "Republicans" continue to exacerbate it. It's a great statistic, Ed, but I think it's missing something. In particular, in many countries, there's some requirement for *everyone* to have some sort of gov't-issued photo ID full-stop. Last I checked, there's nothing of the sort here, and in fact, the idea of making some sort of requirement like that gets the whole free-dumb set up in arms. (Of course, why our closest analogue being a paper card delivered to babies for their entire life, w/no picture, and w/huge security flaws is ok to this same set is beyond me.) Put another way, we make getting the ID compulsory and free for everyone - absolutely, require it to vote. At that point, it's a no-brainer.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Jan 9, 2022 22:44:47 GMT -5
That's an interesting fact. Having said that, we have no statistically significant voter fraud. I wonder what percentage of Americans support hindering/blocking certain segments of the population from voting. Access to voting is a FAR larger issue in the USA than is voter fraud. As much as "Republicans" keep harping on it as if it's a huge problem, it isn't. They also don't care about voter fraud. They care about who gets to vote. Making it exceedingly difficult/impractical or, in some cases, impossible for minority communities to vote is a real thing and "Republicans" continue to exacerbate it. It’s a Rasmussen “poll”. It’s absolutely worthless. This is the same group that said Donald Trump had an approval rating north of 50%. They just make stuff up or only poll Republicans. It's only worthless if people see it as such. "Truth" has become very subjective to a certain segment of our population at this point that isn't even remedied by the death of loved ones.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 14, 2022 11:45:42 GMT -5
Totally agree.
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