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Post by FLHoya on Jul 3, 2016 18:41:09 GMT -5
Hopefully someone can deliver a comprehensive write up. Where's FL when we need him? Doing errands and housework mostly, old person stuff. I'll get around to McDonough a few times this summer, but I'm retired from the recap game. We got plenty of folks who do good work with their papers-o-stats and game notes that I enjoy reading. The reports on CasualHoya are good stuff, and the Kenner League's sudden social media presence is...ummm...really something. I'm digging the weird proof-of-life hostage photo style shots of the players after the game. We're only a short few steps(*) away from Periscoping or streaming the games. Though my favorite part is on their website, the rosters are just ten "TBA"s. Classic Kenner League. This honestly should be a really good year for watching with the incoming three guys, the returning from injury guys, and the hoping-they-make-a-big-leap guys (so, everyone else). Seems like a lot of strong starts to the summer from what I've seen in the proof-of-life photos on Twitter. (*Short few steps = LOLOLOLOLOLOL yeah sure, right after we get on publishing those rosters, champ.)
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Post by TC on Jul 3, 2016 20:16:46 GMT -5
I'm digging the weird proof-of-life hostage photo style shots of the players after the game. These are like what I'd imagine a full body DMV shot would look like (DMV as in the place where you get a horrible picture on your license not the tri-state area).
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Post by deacon on Jul 3, 2016 21:17:46 GMT -5
I'll try to post something more in depth later if I get the time, but in short:
The Tombs didn't do as much pick and roll as was described yesterday, but there was an obvious strategy to get Derrickson the ball in the low post and he went to work. Was guarded mainly by Darion Atkins so it was a challenge for him but time and time again, he managed to get a bucket. Up and unders, face up jumpers, an over the shoulder lefty hook that he scored on three consecutive possessions. Is easily down to 235-240 pounds and it has helped tremendously. Still needs to anticipate the double team better as he has a penchant for making questionable decisions but other than that, he showed the kind of development that one would hope for given his ample potential.
Trey would be my choice for MVP on the day. Did it all on both ends of the floor. Hit mid-range jumpers, turnarounds off the glass, threes, took his defender of the dribble and finished on multiple occasions. Showed an ability to handle the ball in the open court, rebounded, was vocal on the defensive end - which is notable because so many don't do it at all - and played with the kind of intensity you would expect from someone with his lineage. Yeah, yeah, it's just KL, but it's beyond obvious at this point that the kid can play. The biggest question is: Where do the minutes come from?
First time seeing Mulmore extensively and I was impressed. Showed a quick first step off the dribble, is a solid finisher at the rim, was very vocal on the floor but most surprisingly, showed a real knack for finding his teammates in positions where they could convert easy buckets. Sees the floor extremely well. Has the potential to be a solid defender, just needs to bone up more on that end. Not much of a shooter - that form needs a little work. Gonna give this team some juice at PG over the next two years. Good addition.
Jessie struggled today but he was fatigued. However, needs to learn how to play through the fatigue and not get frustrated when his shot isn't falling. Can't let that impact his game on the other end.
Cope was Cope. Still want to see him feel more comfortable handling the ball in the open floor and creating his own offense. Also needs to stop skipping leg day during workouts.
Greg Whittington needs to be in the NBA.
Didn't see Pryor, LJ or Akoy in the building. Saw PW but he didn't dress for his game.
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Post by zxhoya on Jul 3, 2016 21:29:04 GMT -5
Thanks for the report Deacon, the info is golden.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 3, 2016 22:12:07 GMT -5
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Post by trillesthoya on Jul 3, 2016 22:33:17 GMT -5
Man why is it that the three players I want to see play the most aren't playing? Pryor and Agau are two of our biggest Q's this season, and LJ needs to dominate every game if he is to live up to his potential.
Also regarding Derrickson's strong showings, just remember he was also really really impressive in Italy last summer. Not saying he was disappointing his freshman year at all, but let's be realistic about what we have. Kind of a stretch to be saying he can be a lottery pick at this point IMO.
Finally, I'm really concerned about Paul's absence today. Seems like his injury is still lingering. could be that he's trying to take it easy since Kenner doesn't actually matter but I really hope it's nothing else.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 1:39:28 GMT -5
Man why is it that the three players I want to see play the most aren't playing? Pryor and Agau are two of our biggest Q's this season, and LJ needs to dominate every game if he is to live up to his potential. Also regarding Derrickson's strong showings, just remember he was also really really impressive in Italy last summer. Not saying he was disappointing his freshman year at all, but let's be realistic about what we have. Kind of a stretch to be saying he can be a lottery pick at this point IMO. Finally, I'm really concerned about Paul's absence today. Seems like his injury is still lingering. could be that he's trying to take it easy since Kenner doesn't actually matter but I really hope it's nothing else. Paul and Akoy from what I heard a week or so ago are not 100% yet. Was pleasantly surprised Paul played yesterday and not really surprised he didn't today as they probably are being very cautious with him...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 2:05:47 GMT -5
A. Wash guard Tre Campbell (Georgetown) scored 17 points in the win ___________ Hoya forwards Trey Mourning (L) and Marcus Derrickson (R) put a show Arguably the most anticipated game of the day due to the debut of some new Hoyas in freshman guard Jagan Mosely and juco transfer Jonathan Mulmore, both suiting up for the Tombs as they took on Higher Level. Both guards impressed as Mosely slashed his way to 17 points and Jonathan Mulmore (11 points) known as a scorer, put on a nice passing display that drew some oohhs & aahhs from the crowd, showing he can do a little bit of everything at guard. However, the show came down to the battle of Hoya forwards Marcus Derrickson and Trey Mourning. Simply put neither could be stopped. Mourning knocked down countless mid range jumpers from all over posting 14 first half points, while Derrickson scored in transition, on the block and of course from the perimeter using his deadly jumper to finish with 11 points at the half, although Mourning's Higher Level squad trailed 36-32 to the Derrickson led Tombs. In the second half, it was all Tombs. Derrickson went off, scoring 18 of his game high 29 points in the second half to blow the game open, securing a win over Higher Level 89-67. Mourning led the Higher Level with 23 points in the loss. All games covered and some pics if you go to the site....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 2:09:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 2:31:35 GMT -5
Nothing special just some quick mentions on the GW forum
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Trey Mourning looked very good...scored at will on poor Colin when he tried to guard him.
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LSF, Trey Mourning also played well in the game I saw on Saturday. The Kenner League's twitter page mentioned that T.Mourning scored about 30 points today.
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Isaac Copeland also looked very good in the game I saw, Thomas.
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Post by WhatRocks on Jul 4, 2016 6:37:09 GMT -5
Paul White started the game Saturday. Toward the end of the first half, he said something to the coach who immediately told a sub to go in. Before the substitution could occur, White drained his only 3 of the game. A minor collision occurred on the court right after that, and the clock was stopped, permitting the substitution. As Paul went to the bench, he slapped his thigh in a manner that suggested he was disgusted. I thought at the time he was simply disappointed that his play had not been better, but it is possible that he was disgusted that he had tweaked his injury. He did play sparingly in the second half of Saturday's game, so it is hard to tell.
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Post by prhoya on Jul 4, 2016 8:27:48 GMT -5
Thanks to everyone for their reports from those of us far away!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 10:31:13 GMT -5
Mulmore was better in one-on-one situations. He has a more explosive first step and was able to get to the rim whenever he wanted. It was effective, but it’s harder to do at the D-1 level when there’s more size down low and defenses rotate properly. Unlike Cowan, he looked more like a scoring guard. He struggled at times when Cowan pressured him. Mulmore could end up starting for the Hoyas over junior Tre Campbell -- who coincidentally started over Cowan in high school at St. John’s (DC) -- but the Terps have to be encouraged with how their incoming point guard fits in with the capable scorers they have on the roster. They now have a true floor general in the fold, a type of pass-first guard that’s eluded Turgeon during his time at Maryland.
From UMD site on Cowan but JM mentioned
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Post by MCIGuy on Jul 4, 2016 12:01:52 GMT -5
Mulmore was better in one-on-one situations. He has a more explosive first step and was able to get to the rim whenever he wanted. It was effective, but it’s harder to do at the D-1 level when there’s more size down low and defenses rotate properly. Unlike Cowan, he looked more like a scoring guard. He struggled at times when Cowan pressured him. Mulmore could end up starting for the Hoyas over junior Tre Campbell -- who coincidentally started over Cowan in high school at St. John’s (DC) -- but the Terps have to be encouraged with how their incoming point guard fits in with the capable scorers they have on the roster. They now have a true floor general in the fold, a type of pass-first guard that’s eluded Turgeon during his time at Maryland. From UMD site on Cowan but JM mentioned Who are all those capable scorers currently on the roster? Sounds like wishful thinking and that Cowan got there one year too late.
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Post by 95hoya on Jul 4, 2016 12:50:46 GMT -5
Mulmore was better in one-on-one situations. He has a more explosive first step and was able to get to the rim whenever he wanted. It was effective, but it’s harder to do at the D-1 level when there’s more size down low and defenses rotate properly. Unlike Cowan, he looked more like a scoring guard. He struggled at times when Cowan pressured him. Mulmore could end up starting for the Hoyas over junior Tre Campbell -- who coincidentally started over Cowan in high school at St. John’s (DC) -- but the Terps have to be encouraged with how their incoming point guard fits in with the capable scorers they have on the roster. They now have a true floor general in the fold, a type of pass-first guard that’s eluded Turgeon during his time at Maryland. From UMD site on Cowan but JM mentioned Who are all those capable scorers currently on the roster? Sounds like wishful thinking and that Cowan got there one year too late. They still have Melo and brought in a really good recruiting class. Huerter was one of my favorite guards in the class and they stole him from Cuse. The rematch is going to be a fun one. Hopefully we even the score so I don't have to hear it from my family again.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jul 4, 2016 12:58:33 GMT -5
Who are all those capable scorers currently on the roster? Sounds like wishful thinking and that Cowan got there one year too late. They still have Melo and brought in a really good recruiting class. Huerter was one of my favorite guards in the class and they stole him from Cuse. The rematch is going to be a fun one. Hopefully we even the score so I don't have to hear it from my family again. I know about Melo but their recruiting class, while respectable, is not exactly Duke level. Are they going to be ready to shoulder such a heavy load in year one? Don't think so.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jul 4, 2016 16:36:06 GMT -5
Just wanted to join in and say thanks to everyone who has been reporting on the games at Kenner. It is always greatly appreciated.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jul 4, 2016 19:43:39 GMT -5
That report made me cringe. Marcus Derrickson a lottery pick? Yikes. And I love me some MD. I don’t always see eye-to-eye with the guy covering the KL for Casual Hoya, but in his defense I’ll say he isn’t prone to fan-driven hyperbole. He may try to see the positives more than a true objective observer but he isn’t trying to blow smoke up anyone’s butt either. If he is feels that strongly about Derrickson it is because the performance he saw by Derrickson elicited such a reaction. Now it may be at best a bit of a stretch to consider Derrickson to be a future lottery pick at this point, particularly considering his lack of athletic explosion. But is it completely out of the question that he could at least be a first rounder if he performs at a very high level for seasons to come at GU? Like it or not the NBA is going through an evolution of sorts in which the most valuable frontcourt players are those who demonstrate versatility on where they can play on the floor, who they can guard and how much they can stretch the floor. Looking at the cut I put together of Derrickson’s first season I came to the realization that the dude is ahead of the curve in terms of his ability as a big to shoot from the perimeter. He has a marvelous looking three-point shot which he can hit EFFORTLESSLY from as far back as the stands it would appear. Now he needs to demonstrate the willingness and effectiveness to get buckets in the paint and crash boards; the areas he had established a reputation for back when he was considered a top twenty recruit for his class in high school. The consensus from virtually everybody who posted about the KL that he was dominant this weekend in all aspects of the game, including driving, is a great sign IMO. There had been a brief discussion on these boards weeks ago that Derickson’s style may be similar to Draymond Green’s. Green is a perfect example of the desirable big of this new NBA. Green was only drafted in the second round after four seasons at Michigan State, but his play in the NBA has been far beyond what experts had predicted. He has now demonstrated that a 6’7/6’8 PF with little athletic bounce who can post, face up, shoot, drive and pass can be an All-Star and a valuable component to a championship team. Because he opened that door any player who comes out of college of similar build and similar abilities will get a hard look by NBA scouts. Years ago such players would have been dismissed as tweeners, now they may be all the rage. Funny how every time I think about Derrickson I recall rdf’s PM to me that he felt Derrickson was GU’s best recruit since Greg Monroe. And that was before Derrickson demonstrated that shooting ability (rdf thought of him more as a Corliss Williamson type). What impressed me most about MD so far was how he got into such great shape before he arrived at college. That demonstrated a self-awareness and drive that most high school guys don’t have. Those are winning traits. It is smart to not get too carried away right now regarding MD, but it is okay for people to have faith in these players. I think we can all agree to table the talk about a possible NBA future right now and concentrate instead at what Derrickson may be able to do at Gtown in the near future.
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Post by nychoya3 on Jul 4, 2016 19:48:06 GMT -5
It wouldn't be Kenner league without hyperbolic fan reactions and predictions. About the Md/Dray comp, what makes Draymond a top player is his defensive ability to guard just about every spot, so hopefully Marcus grows on that side of the ball.
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Post by dreamhoya on Jul 4, 2016 19:48:36 GMT -5
I'll try to post something more in depth later if I get the time, but in short: Trey would be my choice for MVP on the day. Did it all on both ends of the floor. Hit mid-range jumpers, turnarounds off the glass, threes, took his defender of the dribble and finished on multiple occasions. Showed an ability to handle the ball in the open court, rebounded, was vocal on the defensive end - which is notable because so many don't do it at all - and played with the kind of intensity you would expect from someone with his lineage. Yeah, yeah, it's just KL, but it's beyond obvious at this point that the kid can play. The biggest question is: Where do the minutes come from? Greg Whittington needs to be in the NBA. As I've been saying, Trey will be important at some point. Yes, I know, it's Kenner. Greg is too talented to not be on a roster; only other factors will keep him out of the league.
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