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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jun 4, 2016 0:12:01 GMT -5
The thing is that aside from die-hard fans (like anybody reading this thread) nobody really cares about college basketball in June. Would JT3 get a little more press if he made public statements? Maybe, but overall nobody really pays attention. The real impact can be made in October and when there is pre-season buzz, but really, the best thing we can do is win and then people will pay attention to us.
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Post by EtomicB on Jun 4, 2016 16:53:21 GMT -5
The thing is that aside from die-hard fans (like anybody reading this thread) nobody really cares about college basketball in June. Would JT3 get a little more press if he made public statements? Maybe, but overall nobody really pays attention. The real impact can be made in October and when there is pre-season buzz, but really, the best thing we can do is win and then people will pay attention to us. I think you're forgetting about HS & AAU coaches not to mention the players & their families who are being recruited by the program.. It's a good bet they're interested in gathering as much info as possible about a potential program.. Imo a coach/program isn't just speaking to it's base fans when they give interviews or make public statements .. Both Xavier & Nova kill it when it comes to promoting their programs in the off season especially using social media..
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jun 4, 2016 19:06:37 GMT -5
The thing is that aside from die-hard fans (like anybody reading this thread) nobody really cares about college basketball in June. Would JT3 get a little more press if he made public statements? Maybe, but overall nobody really pays attention. The real impact can be made in October and when there is pre-season buzz, but really, the best thing we can do is win and then people will pay attention to us. I think you're forgetting about HS & AAU coaches not to mention the players & their families who are being recruited by the program.. It's a good bet they're interested in gathering as much info as possible about a potential program.. Imo a coach/program isn't just speaking to it's base fans when they give interviews or make public statements .. Both Xavier & Nova kill it when it comes to promoting their programs in the off season especially using social media.. Very true - that's a point I had not considered. You'd hope that the coaches and staff do promotion like that on a one-on-one basis when they attend these sorts of events, but it wouldn't hurt to do a some self promotion.
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Post by trillesthoya on Jun 5, 2016 7:46:56 GMT -5
WOOHOO FIRST POSITIVE PRESEASON ARTICLE
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Post by lichoya68 on Jun 5, 2016 14:07:33 GMT -5
we will see GREAT YEAR COMING mad and ready to go pressure without fouls and go to the hoop to GET fouls thats the two keys for forty minutes or MORE>. go hoyas cant wait kenner soooooooooooonnnnnn
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Post by EasyEd on Jul 1, 2016 10:25:56 GMT -5
Pryor must be amused to find he came from a Juco.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jul 1, 2016 16:17:48 GMT -5
Pryor must be amused to find he came from a Juco. He played JUCO before Robert Morris, but the article is clearly misleading.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jul 12, 2016 12:48:25 GMT -5
For those that don't have time to listen to a 26-minute podcast, highlights from JT3: - Last year was most disappointing of his career - Discussed injuries as "perfect storm" of what went wrong in 2015-2016, cited Agau (said he would've been "in the rotation"), White, LJ Peak missing a couple games, Bradley Hayes going down during a critical stretch of Big East play - Fouled too much, "the guys" need to build new habits on how to defend - Add size and athleticism with Mulmore - Pryor and Mulmore - tough-nosed defenders - Pryor can really score - Mosely not highly touted, but big, tough-nosed kid who knows how to play, can run a team, can defend - Can put Agau or Derrickson at center, but "4s around them will be 6'8" or 6'9", so not like they'll be totally small - Will play faster next year - Knows that the returning group feels the pain of last year and has worked very hard this offseason - "We will play more people", "will get more bodies in there", "will go much deeper" - Not sure people will play as many minutes as DSR and Copeland did last year due to having so many good options - "I'll take that" about people not thinking much about Georgetown as a key factor in the Big East right now...then said "order will be restored" - Big East regaining prominence on the national level, cited Nova, Xavier, and Providence last year - "Last year was not the norm, and it will not be the norm" - "No one on this earth wants us to have success more than me." Last year "hurts", there has been "introspection" to ensure it doesn't happen again. - Every coach at this level has an enormous amount of pressure - JT2 is a sounding board, always hears how he feels, doesn't bite his tongue. JT3 is fortunate to have that resource around him - Rodney Pryor will surprise people, will add a lot to both ends of the court I've gotta give Rothstein some credit, didn't shy away from asking tough questions about last year, the "new" Big East and Georgetown's current standing in it, and JT2's influence on the program/JT3.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jul 12, 2016 13:43:32 GMT -5
I listened to this about five minutes after Rothstein posted it. Was anyone having problems with the audio dropping in and out? Perhaps I listened too early and those issues have been resolved. I missed in total probably two to three minutes of dialogue between the two of them. That said here are my takeaways: 1)Much of it was what is expected from these conversations with III and Rothstein. A few interesting nuggets about players, the state of the program, etc but not a whole lot of insight. III did some of his customary deflecting in that he mentioned everything that went wrong (did LJ miss a game because of injury, I don’t recall?), all who were at fault without spending a whole lot of time pointing the finger a himself. This isn’t to say he didn’t take any blame. The whole introspection remark is a good sign IMO. I hope he has had somewhat of a Come to Jesus moment and can see more of the light. 2)More than previous years he was more vocal about playing faster although he prefaced that there was a change in how his team played last season to. 3)It stood out that he mentioned his players will have to show their hands more on defense and that they needed to cut down on ticky tack fouls. Additionally he made the observation that his players are picking up fouls on one end but not causing the opponents to pick up fouls at nearly the same rate. Yes, coach. This is indeed a major imbalance that needs correcting. 4)Maybe the remark that made me happiest was how he pointed out all the minutes DSR and Copeland averaged per game last season (people are aware of my ranting about Cope’s underserved extended minutes and how I don’t think anyone should be playing more than 30). He made it clear that won’t be the case this season because of the quality depth. Even with his being high on Pryor there was no indication he wanted anyone logging such long averages this season. 5)He also wasn’t beating around the bush in regards to playing a lot of guys. Expects to have a deep rotation (seems like he is suggesting at least ten in that rotation). Seriously points #2 thru #5 are music to my ears when you consider what I’ve been whining about and clamoring for for the longest time. 6)He is very high on Mulmore and Mosely. And he really, really, really likes Pryor. 7)Kinda threw last season’s sophomore class under the bus by saying that too much may have been asked or expected of them, they weren’t yet ready for it. Interesting enough Peak, outside of foul trouble, was up to the challenge in my opinion. And White can’t be blamed for his injury. Was he really referring to Copeland and Campbell? Also he continues to name all the members of this class with the exception of Mourning, as if he has forgotten he is on the team. He does this a lot which may not be a good sign. 8)Talked a whole lot about Akoy as if he was a big part of the plan going forward. 9)Appeared to be chomping at the bit in regards to what he thinks this upcoming team is capable of. Not that III has ever been a braggart or anything but this time it felt as if he was biting his tongue My gut feeling is that he knows this team has the goods but he will have to eat dirt for the remaining months until he and his team gets the chance to set things right. His “order will be restored” comment is likely as close as he came to revealing his true feelings on the topic. But he’s smart enough to know that anything he says right now will be seen as empty words by the media and college sports fans. That’s my take at least. I've gotta give Rothstein some credit, didn't shy away from asking tough questions about last year, the "new" Big East and Georgetown's current standing in it, and JT2's influence on the program/JT3. Totally agree. Rothstein obviously likes III but he started off the podcast stating that Georgetown has not lived up to its end of being a pillar of this new Big East along with Villanova. That's an issue that some of us here have pounded on only to get negative feedback from those who think such things should not be discussed.
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Post by kchoya on Jul 12, 2016 14:11:55 GMT -5
I've gotta give Rothstein some credit, didn't shy away from asking tough questions about last year, the "new" Big East and Georgetown's current standing in it, and JT2's influence on the program/JT3. Totally agree. Rothstein obviously likes III but he started off the podcast stating that Georgetown has not lived up to its end of being a pillar of this new Big East along with Villanova. That's an issue that some of us here have pounded on only to get negative feedback from those who think such things should not be discussed. That's such crap. No one on here has said such things should not be discussed, nor has anyone attacked you for saying that GU hasn't lived up to its end of the bargain in the new BE.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jul 12, 2016 14:21:17 GMT -5
7)Kinda threw last season’s sophomore class under the bus by saying that too much may have been asked or expected of them, they weren’t yet ready for it. Interesting enough Peak, outside of foul trouble, was up to the challenge in my opinion. And White can’t be blamed for his injury. Was he really referring to Copeland and Campbell? Also he continues to name all the members of this class with the exception of Mourning, as if he has forgotten he is on the team. He does this a lot which may not be a good sign.
8)Talked a whole lot about Akoy as if he was a big part of the plan going forward.
Totally agree with these takes MCI, and, reading between the lines, seems like JT3 has Agau ahead of Mourning, which surprises me based on what we've seen/heard about these two over the last couple of years. I also agree that JT3 expected more from Copeland and Campbell. With Copeland that makes a lot of sense as he's probably JT3's best recruit since Greg Monroe and has been a relative disappointment in his first two seasons. With Campbell, just seems to me like the staff misevaluated the kid and unless things change drastically over these next couple of seasons, they were too high on him relative to what he's capable of.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Jul 12, 2016 14:57:37 GMT -5
7)Kinda threw last season’s sophomore class under the bus by saying that too much may have been asked or expected of them, they weren’t yet ready for it. Interesting enough Peak, outside of foul trouble, was up to the challenge in my opinion. And White can’t be blamed for his injury. Was he really referring to Copeland and Campbell? Also he continues to name all the members of this class with the exception of Mourning, as if he has forgotten he is on the team. He does this a lot which may not be a good sign. 8)Talked a whole lot about Akoy as if he was a big part of the plan going forward. Totally agree with these takes MCI, and, reading between the lines, seems like JT3 has Agau ahead of Mourning, which surprises me based on what we've seen/heard about these two over the last couple of years. I also agree that JT3 expected more from Copeland and Campbell. With Copeland that makes a lot of sense as he's probably JT3's best recruit since Greg Monroe and has been a relative disappointment in his first two seasons. With Campbell, just seems to me like the staff misevaluated the kid and unless things change drastically over these next couple of seasons, they were too high on him relative to what he's capable of. How is that throwing the sophomores under the bus? If anything, he was accepting responsibility--as a leader should in that situation.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jul 12, 2016 15:05:19 GMT -5
7)Kinda threw last season’s sophomore class under the bus by saying that too much may have been asked or expected of them, they weren’t yet ready for it. Interesting enough Peak, outside of foul trouble, was up to the challenge in my opinion. And White can’t be blamed for his injury. Was he really referring to Copeland and Campbell? Also he continues to name all the members of this class with the exception of Mourning, as if he has forgotten he is on the team. He does this a lot which may not be a good sign. 8)Talked a whole lot about Akoy as if he was a big part of the plan going forward. Totally agree with these takes MCI, and, reading between the lines, seems like JT3 has Agau ahead of Mourning, which surprises me based on what we've seen/heard about these two over the last couple of years. I also agree that JT3 expected more from Copeland and Campbell. With Copeland that makes a lot of sense as he's probably JT3's best recruit since Greg Monroe and has been a relative disappointment in his first two seasons. With Campbell, just seems to me like the staff misevaluated the kid and unless things change drastically over these next couple of seasons, they were too high on him relative to what he's capable of. How is that throwing the sophomores under the bus? If anything, he was accepting responsibility--as a leader should in that situation. Consider the source, then put a huge discount on it. That's a typical MCI take...
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Post by MCIGuy on Jul 12, 2016 15:44:09 GMT -5
Totally agree. Rothstein obviously likes III but he started off the podcast stating that Georgetown has not lived up to its end of being a pillar of this new Big East along with Villanova. That's an issue that some of us here have pounded on only to get negative feedback from those who think such things should not be discussed. That's such crap. No one on here has said such things should not be discussed, nor has anyone attacked you for saying that GU hasn't lived up to its end of the bargain in the new BE. Now that's crap. We had a bunch of folks who got rather defensive when that specific topic was broached. When I even went as far to point out how worse it looks considering III's previous crowing that the new Big East might as well be called the Georgetown Conference, we had posters on this board accusing me of lying.
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