deacon
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Post by deacon on Apr 6, 2016 20:56:03 GMT -5
Unless someone leaves I do not see a ton of minutes for him here. I doubt he comes here. Why wouldn't he? Besides LJ Peak, who would be in front of him for immediate minutes?
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Post by bamahoya11 on Apr 6, 2016 21:01:13 GMT -5
I hope we can stay in the running for this guy. It's nice to go into this recruiting battle knowing that we are not desperate after the Mulmore commit. But would love to see us add to our depth at guard.
Must say, I'm impressed by how the staff has handled the off season so far. Coming off a bleak season, they're clearly putting in good work. Hope it shows up on the court.
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Post by SDHoya on Apr 6, 2016 21:57:59 GMT -5
I hope we can stay in the running for this guy. It's nice to go into this recruiting battle knowing that we are not desperate after the Mulmore commit. But would love to see us add to our depth at guard. Must say, I'm impressed by how the staff has handled the off season so far. Coming off a bleak season, they're clearly putting in good work. Hope it shows up on the court. Agreed that it appears that the staff is working with a clear sense of urgency. Hoping this urgency continues, and whether or not we add Pryor, that it pushes into building the 2017 incoming class.
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Post by bicentennial on Apr 6, 2016 22:14:42 GMT -5
Transfer signings are a sign of this staff's ongoing weakness in recruiting. I completely disagree with the above. I agree completely that the use of immediately eligible transfers and Jucos is an important tool to correct an imbalance created not by this staff but by the previous assistants who were replaced. That being said, it in no way suggests a current weakness of our staff. Our current list of 2018 Seniors(white, Copeland, tre, trey, Peak, Agau_)represents nearly half of our scholarships. Mulmore brings us a needed driving guard but also adds one more to the total of 2018 seniors representing more than half of our scholarships. Meanwhile White and Agau may be able to stay until 2019. Mosely will then be our only 2020 senior meaning more Jucos or transfers may be needed. Meanwhile a graduate transfer would be added to the 2017 graduates with Cameron guaranteeing at least 2 spots available for recruits in 2017. While balance might be restored by early departures, it does not appear the current players are likely to succeed declaring for the draft this year. I am hoping that none of the players decides to transfer away. Having a team with a majority of Juniors, Cameron and a transfer would rapidly bring maturity to our team next year. I all the players are healthy this should help the team to communicate better and hopefully lead to a quick turnaround from this disastrous season.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 6, 2016 22:23:38 GMT -5
Transfer signings are a sign of this staff's ongoing weakness in recruiting. I completely disagree with the above. I agree completely that the use of immediately eligible transfers and Jucos is an important tool to correct an imbalance created not by this staff but by the previous assistants who were replaced. That being said, it in no way suggests a current weakness of our staff. Our current list of 2018 Seniors(white, Copeland, tre, trey, Peak, Agau_)represents nearly half of our scholarships. Mulmore brings us a needed driving guard but also adds one more to the total of 2018 seniors representing more than half of our scholarships. Meanwhile White and Agau may be able to stay until 2019. Mosely will then be our only 2020 senior meaning more Jucos or transfers may be needed. Meanwhile a graduate transfer would be added to the 2017 graduates with Cameron guaranteeing at least 2 spots available for recruits in 2017. While balance might be restored by early departures, it does not appear the current players are likely to succeed declaring for the draft this year. I am hoping that none of the players decides to transfer away. Having a team with a majority of Juniors, Cameron and a transfer would rapidly bring maturity to our team next year. I all the players are healthy this should help the team to communicate better and hopefully lead to a quick turnaround from this disastrous season. Again - kc was just playing off of DFW's similar statement about taking a JUCO.
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dense
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Post by dense on Apr 6, 2016 22:28:05 GMT -5
Unless someone leaves I do not see a ton of minutes for him here. I doubt he comes here. Why wouldn't he? Besides LJ Peak, who would be in front of him for immediate minutes? He would play some 3 since he is not a point. LJ is not going to be the point. If Issac comes back, you benching him??? Paul is better than this guy and serves more what we need. I just see him being a back up 2 and 3.
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Post by s4hoyas on Apr 6, 2016 22:42:17 GMT -5
The guy averaged 18 pts and 8 rbs for a division 1 school...he's got 3 yrs college experience...we graduated our shooting guard...he gives us impact scoring and reboumding...don't know if we'll get him, but I'd love to have him...there's plenty of time for someone with his productivity...for one year, I think he'd be a great addition...
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Post by deacon on Apr 6, 2016 23:09:29 GMT -5
Why wouldn't he? Besides LJ Peak, who would be in front of him for immediate minutes? He would play some 3 since he is not a point. LJ is not going to be the point. If Issac comes back, you benching him??? Paul is better than this guy and serves more what we need. I just see him being a back up 2 and 3. Okay, so even if he doesn't start - and he could easily start next to (insert G here), LJ, Cope and Govan - who would be ahead of him off the bench? If he comes, he's easily playing 25+ minutes a night, whether he starts or not.
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Post by SaxaCD on Apr 7, 2016 0:45:41 GMT -5
He would play some 3 since he is not a point. LJ is not going to be the point. If Issac comes back, you benching him??? Paul is better than this guy and serves more what we need. I just see him being a back up 2 and 3. Okay, so even if he doesn't start - and he could easily start next to (insert G here), LJ, Cope and Govan - who would be ahead of him off the bench? If he comes, he's easily playing 25+ minutes a night, whether he starts or not. Get as many good players as possible and let them fight it out for playing time. And if they all respond well, then wave them in and out and flatten your opponents when they get tired!
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Post by dreamhoya on Apr 7, 2016 6:30:54 GMT -5
Not a fan of his game but I think he could certainly help ...
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 7, 2016 7:02:15 GMT -5
I agree. Very little downside, so why not bring him in if he can contribute? I always love how we as a fan base always take the position of the staff and never the prospect. Right now Pryor is in the position of power. He has worked his tail off and because of the rules is afforded this luxury of being recruited all over again but at a much higher level. You have to look at it from a courting standpoint and that the conversations between the staff and him are a getting to know each other steps, and the visit will be the major courting period as they both try to decide whether to commit to a 1 year relationship. But don't get it twisted, Pryor is the one being wooed here and is in a position of power. If he doesn't here and is reassured that he's going to get exactly what he's looking for in this 1 year relationship, he will move on and look elsewhere. You have to believe he's looking for a place he can maximize his playing time and abilities at a high level which probably means an opportunity to start, which he has earned the right to request that. I actually think he could start for us next season because he brings a unique set of qualifications to this current Hoyas roster including style of play, skill set, physical and mental maturity. I also think that the other schools recruiting him can provide him the same luxuries. Gonzaga is a team where Pryor would start on the wing and could all but guarantee him an opportunity to play in the NCAA tournament next year. For all those reasons, unless he is bowled over by what the staff is offering, I see his recruitment stretching to end of April and maybe even early May. I also wouldn't be surprised if more schools don't get involved now that the season is completely over and we are in full blown recruiting mode. We already see Kansas sniffing around. A school like the Villanova could get involved as they have 2 open scholarships and are a guard heavy program. Based on what other recruits decide there could be a dominos effect that land in 5th year recruits like Pryor's lap. But don't get it twisted, it's in no way up to the staff to just bring him in if he can contribute. You realize Gonzaga needed to win their conference tournament in order to make the NCAAs this year and lose their best two players in Wiltjer and Sabonis. plus two other rotation players. In no way can Gonzaga come close to guaranteeing a NCAA spot next year. St. Mary's dominated the conference last year beating gonzaga 2 out of 3 times and they return Everyone.
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Post by dense on Apr 7, 2016 7:53:43 GMT -5
Gonzaga gets Williams-Goss and Jonathan Williams III next year. They are gonna be just as good.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 7, 2016 9:20:22 GMT -5
Gonzaga gets Williams-Goss and Jonathan Williams III next year. They are gonna be just as good. So they'll only make the tournament if they win their conference tournament ok so not better than us at all.
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 7, 2016 9:27:49 GMT -5
Gonzaga gets Williams-Goss and Jonathan Williams III next year. They are gonna be just as good. So they'll only make the tournament if they win their conference tournament ok so not better than us at all. There's been a few years where both Gonzaga & St. Mary's make the tourney..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2016 10:44:54 GMT -5
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Post by goyahoya69 on Apr 8, 2016 11:31:10 GMT -5
man, i can't explain just how excited i would be for next season if we landed this guy. with the addition of mulmore already in hand, we would finally have 5 guards on the roster. perhaps someone could enlighten me on pryor's ballhandling abilities, but a starting lineup of peak, pryor, copeland, derrickson/white, and govan sounds good to me.
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Post by daymondmyles on Apr 8, 2016 12:53:53 GMT -5
I think it's 6 guards: Pryor, Mulmore, Peak, Campbell, Mosely and Kaleb Johnson.
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Post by blueandgray on Apr 8, 2016 13:06:01 GMT -5
I don't see Campbell playing nearly as much as he did last year.
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Post by tonyparker on Apr 8, 2016 13:09:53 GMT -5
Of the six guards listed (Pryor, Mulmore, Peak, Campbell, Mosely, Johnson) - none are true point guards.
Moore is a true point guard. If he's at all interested, we should pursue.
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