Georgetown @ DePaul 12/30/15 Discussion

[DanMcQ]

Continue piling up one win at a time.

[bicentennial]

Have to admit, I am a little more worried about this one than I have been in some time. Looking forward to seeing the Hoyas in person. Hopefully the team of games 2-8 shows up!

[KHoyaNYC]

Who knows? Could win by 20. Or lose by 20.

[eastcoastteddy58]

DePaul and Garrett have always played tough, its almost like DSR and Garrett have a on going dispute, or was that Markel?

[MassHoya]

OK. BE season is here. No more mid majors/major mids or whatever. We know these guys and they know us. It's time to execute and play with intensity. No more surprises or excuses. Let's go Hoyas. Beat the Blue Demons.

[HoyaSinceBirth]

Part 1 of the season is done. Now is part 2 and we obviously hope that part 2 turns out better than part 1 did. The season is not over. Hopefully the break has done the team some good. New year new team. Let's start of BE play on the right foot.

[aristides]

I haven't seen a second of DePaul this year. Just looking at their roster... I'm not seeing high assist numbers aside from Garrett. And with him being 6'6, maybe the Hoyas will have an easier time staying in front of him. It just seems like it's been the small, shifty guards which cause so much problems. Garrett and Henry are really struggling from 3 this year but then a trio of others are shooting 50%. HSB needs to bring back the scouting reports!

I hope White is feeling better. This team really needs him.

[nychoya3]

Depaul doesn't appear to be a particularly good offensive team, but we're a particularly terrible defensive team at this point so who knows. I'm sure the staff has been drilling defensive fundamentals, and above all just some level of defensive effort, above all else. So hopefully that's gotten through. Guys should be aware at this point that if we don't get better on that end we can lose to just about anyone.

[aleutianhoya]

The link to the JTIII pre-game interview is interesting. At the very end, he's asked about using PNRs, and he notes (I'm paraphrasing) that they've continued to work on that and will look to use them in a variety of ways. I don't know if it'll work, obviously, but I'm heartened to hear that. And I hope we see some of them with someone other than the five setting the screen.

[lichoya68]

OK folks i watched the entire depaul vs A VERY GOOD RANKED GW team depaul outhustled them the whole game and blew them otta the gym on offense and defense alot of going to the hoop AND hitting threes. we will need to step it up tremendously from teh way we been playing and play literally forty minutes OR MORE of hustling. i think wed be lucky to have thia be a ONE POINT OR OT GAME> yup depaul is NOT the team of earlier in the season HOPES IM WAY WRONG BUT TIME TO MOVE MOVE MOVE and MOVE ON with hustle and HEART go hoyas BEAT DEPAUL> yup BIG HUGE GAME MUST WIN THIS ONE.

[HoyaSinceBirth]

Since it was requested and since I have some free time on winter break here's a break down of the Hoyas vs. DePaul. Now this is based off the kenpom data to date. Being the eternal optimist I believe our numbers will improve, but likely the areas of weakness will not change.

DePaul's strengths are not getting their shots blocked 25th nationally, getting to the FT line 58th nationally, and hitting 2pt shots 83rd nationally (51.2%). Defensively they have a solid defensive eFG% 46.7% (83rd nationally) mostly due to a 44.9% defensive 2pt% (83rd nationally)

Luckily most of their strengths are balanced out by Georgetown's strengths. Georgetown is 32nd nationally in defensive eFG%, mostly on the back of our 40.7% 2pt defense. Hoyas are 65th nationally in block %, and are 90th nationally in eFG% mainly on the back of our 51.8% 2pt% (70th nationally).

The one DePaul strength that is a weakness for us is getting to the FT line. They get there well and we send teams there a lot. Luckily getting to the line themselves is one of the major strengths of this Georgetown team. We are 24th nationally at FTA/FGA and DePaul like us loves to send teams to the line(274th nationally(Hoyas are 302nd)). So that's probably a wash.

So I've already mentioned one of DePaul's weaknesses that the Hoyas can likely take advantage of us. DePaul is also weak in several other areas many of which are similar to our own weaknesses. DePaul like the Hoyas turns the ball over a lot and does not generate turnover of their own. DePaul turns the ball over 20.2% of the time(265th nationally) and is only 234th at forcing turnovers. Georgetown's numbers are similarly bad turning the ball over on 19.6% of possessions(237th nationally) and is only 211th at forcing turnovers. Depaul is 339th in steals Georgetown is 258th. Both teams also struggle to rebound the ball DePaul is 191st in offensive rebounding and 147th on the defensive end while the Hoyas are 210th and 184th respectively.

DePaul is not a 3pt shooting team they connect on a respectable 34.5% from deep 153rd nationally, but are 269th in 3PA/FGA, 289th in % of their points that come from behind the arc. They play mostly man to man defense and are only 215th in A/FGM a strength of Georgetown's where we're 59th.



So going off on a tangent slightly based on this. We can all agree that our defense has been the main culprit for our poor play/results in the non conference. But our actual eFG% defense is actually great the 32nd best mark in the nation. We're even better at defending with in the arc 18th nationally and block the 65th most shots. Yet our defense is a paltry 109th nationally. Obviously the biggest issue is fouling being 302nd in opponents FTA/FGA. The other two issues are we don't force turnovers as shown above and we're a mediocre rebounding team. We're also not good at guarding the 3 allowing 34.7% beyond the arc 196th nationally. Looking back at last years team we're actually not that different from last years team yet their defense ended up 42nd while ours sit at 109th. What's the difference. Last years team fouled at almost exactly the same rate 44.2% this year vs. 44.1% last year, last year was even worse at guarding the 3 36.2% vs. 34.7%. Both years were mediocre rebounding 30.5% this year vs. 31% last year. Seems like the biggest difference is last years team force considerably more turnovers. Last years team was 31th in steals(11.4%) and 101st in forcing turnovers(20.2%). This year we're 258th and 211th nationally 7.6% and 17.9% respectively. It's not like last years team pressed more than this years version did. Strangely this may be an unexpected area where we're missing hopsmith. DSR led the team in steals but the next two leading stealers were hopkins and smith followed by fellow graduating seniors trawick and Aaron Bowen. Not really sure what to make of these numbers. Obviously the areas Hoyas can improve are fouling less, guarding the 3pt line better, rebounding better, and forcing more turnovers.


Offensively The Hoyas are also worse than last year. What are the differences on that end? Hoyas have a slightly higher eFG% this year 51.8 vs. 51.3, we're getting to the line better 46% FTA/FGA vs. 43.9% last year. Turnovers about the same 19.2% last year vs. 19.6% this year. 2pt % is pretty even 51.8% this year vs. 50.5% last year. 3pt % is slightly down 34.6% this year vs. 35.3% last year. FT% is up from last year 73.6% vs. 70.4%. We're getting blocked much less 10.2% last year down to 7.6% this year, but we're getting the ball stolen a bit more so perhaps more live ball turnovers than last year is an issue 10.1% this year vs. 9.2% last year. The major difference appears to be offensive rebounding. Last year we grabbed 34.9% of our misses this year we only get 29.1%.

Another interesting difference offensively is a stylistic one. We're much more dependent on the 3pt this year. Last year our 3PA/FGA was 32.5%(225) this year it's 40.9%(59th). Last year we got 25.8% of our points from beyond the arc (241st) this year we get 30.9% of our points there (136th). This year we get more points from the FT line than we did last year 24.6% (32nd) vs. 23.1%(58th) but the real difference is our drop in points from 2pt range this year we only get 44.5% of our points there (307th) compared to 51.1%(166th). On the other hand a more positive stylistic change( although it's debatable if relying more on the 3 ball and the FT line and less on 2pt shots is a bad thing. In theory sounds, good, but it appears we're moving away from how the average team gets it's points, but I haven't examined if good offenses tend to get more of their points from those areas instead of 2pters.) is that we're assisting on more baskets. Our A/FGM is up to 59.5(47th) from 53.4%(164th) Both of these trends and our poor offensive rebounding are likely due to the loss of Josh Smith.


All in all, DePaul seems to have a lot of the same strengths and weaknesses that the Hoyas do, just their strengths aren't as strong and their weaknesses are generaly weaker.

[hoyalove4ever]

Huge game for trying to get back on track. Hoyas will win if they play like they did at the end of Charlotte game. Otherwise, look out. I think that they answer the bell.

[GUJook97]

Looks like we are 3 pt favorites. I thought this might be the first time we were going to be an underdog to DePaul in the Big East. I still have no idea how this game will go.

[lichoya68]

We MUST win this game for us to go to the post season YUP nuf said come out hustling for forty minutes or MORE> go hoyas today is the first day of the rest of your life GO HOYAS ITS FEBRRUARY WRIGHT NOW> eat the bannananaa

[HoyaSinceBirth]

We've struggled as of late, but this is the same team that beat Wisconsin and Cuse and took Maryland and Duke to the wire. This is a good team despite the fact that they haven't played like it lately. Hoyas will get back on the right track.

[HometownHoya]

Need to start the conference season strong, wins tonight and Saturday would be a good first step.

Hopefully the team comes to play against an opponent that would be easy to overlook.

[drquigley]

Anybody else watching the early game, Marquette-Seton Hall? Yeow. These guys are playing a version of basketball we haven't seen from any of our OOC opponents. Hardly any 3 point shots and when they do shoot 3's they miss. But man are they quick and capable of scoring in the paint. Both teams look a lot better than they did last year. Hope DePaul hasn't done the same.

[hoyaboya]

Paul White dressed but not warming up.

[This Just In]

Keys to the game:

1. A quick start

2. Rebounding advantage

3. Asst to turnover ratio

4. 1st team to 70 wins

[hoyaboya]

Tre starting over LJ.