smokeyjack
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Post by smokeyjack on Oct 26, 2015 19:52:27 GMT -5
Without obsessing about positions specifically, I would never argue that AA was more skilled or had higher upside than our other bigs. But in the Kenner games I saw, which was a large if flawed sample, I saw very little that would indicate Hayes (injured or not) or Mourning would be impact bigs for a team with decent aspirations.
What I liked about AA was his motor, willingness to board and defend and general athleticism for a big. Even though several are clearly more gifted, I think we could have more easily absorbed the loss of one of our raft of rebounding-averse, defense-challenged 6-8, 3-point shooters.
I was just excited about AA (and Johnson), because they are so different than the kind of forwards III seems obsessed with stockpiling.
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Post by huskerpower on Oct 26, 2015 19:52:11 GMT -5
I don't know how many of you have seen Akoy play, but honestly he could actually give a team some minutes at the 3 position(jimho). Definitely not his forte but if needed he could fill that role here and there. Obviously the 4-5 will be his bread and butter. Akoy is a great teammate, probably one of his better attributes. Boy, I was really looking forward to coming from Nebraska and watching some Hoya Hoops and our boy Akoy (Akoy and my family have in a round about way adapted one another). Was always a John Thompson, Ewing and Mourning fan. Loved watching the Big East clashes between those guys and Syracuse.
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Oct 26, 2015 20:09:18 GMT -5
Even though several are clearly more gifted, I think we could have more easily absorbed the loss of one of our raft of rebounding-averse, defense-challenged 6-8, 3-point shooters. To whom might you be referring? I can't think of anyone who fits that description, especially one we could afford to lose instead of Agau.
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SaxaCD
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Post by SaxaCD on Oct 26, 2015 20:37:49 GMT -5
Even though several are clearly more gifted, I think we could have more easily absorbed the loss of one of our raft of rebounding-averse, defense-challenged 6-8, 3-point shooters. To whom might you be referring? I can't think of anyone who fits that description, especially one we could afford to lose instead of Agau. Yeah, that's a bit of a head-scratcher there.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 26, 2015 20:47:35 GMT -5
I don't know how many of you have seen Akoy play, but honestly he could actually give a team some minutes at the 3 position(jimho). Definitely not his forte but if needed he could fill that role here and there. Obviously the 4-5 will be his bread and butter. Akoy is a great teammate, probably one of his better attributes. Boy, I was really looking forward to coming from Nebraska and watching some Hoya Hoops and our boy Akoy (Akoy and my family have in a round about way adapted one another). Was always a John Thompson, Ewing and Mourning fan. Loved watching the Big East clashes between those guys and Syracuse. I wasn't trying to put down Agau's game -- I've seen very little of his play and nothing recently. Just merely commenting on the amount of depth the Hoyas have this year, and how, while Agau may be able to play the 3, we've got a lot of 3s. I hope he's keeping his spirits up and I hope he comes back good as new. It's got to be tough.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Oct 26, 2015 21:12:40 GMT -5
I don't know how many of you have seen Akoy play, but honestly he could actually give a team some minutes at the 3 position(jimho). Definitely not his forte but if needed he could fill that role here and there. Obviously the 4-5 will be his bread and butter. Akoy is a great teammate, probably one of his better attributes. Boy, I was really looking forward to coming from Nebraska and watching some Hoya Hoops and our boy Akoy (Akoy and my family have in a round about way adapted one another). Was always a John Thompson, Ewing and Mourning fan. Loved watching the Big East clashes between those guys and Syracuse. I hope you don't let the fact that Akoy won't be playing keep you from attending the games you considered attending. He is a Hoya and is a part of the team and probably will appreciate any and all support he gets this season as he has to sit on the sidelines. We were all excited to see him suit up and I think we all feel for the kid and what he's gone through with his injury history. Similarly, I feel comfortable saying we all wish him a speedy and full recovery. I hope Akoy finds a way to use his time on the sidelines to do all that he can to improve his mental game and comes back next year even more prepared to contribute.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Oct 27, 2015 11:52:56 GMT -5
go double AA
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Talos
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Post by Talos on Oct 27, 2015 15:31:03 GMT -5
Feel bad for Akoy; he seems like a really good kid in addition to his basketball talents. I was really looking forward to seeing how he fit into the rotation this year, and I agree with others who speculated he could have seen time at three different positions (3, 4, 5). I guess the only silver lining in this injury is that it happened at a position where we have some depth. Now if we have an injury at the guard position, that could be much more damaging to this team's prospects.
Although it's never a guarantee with this type of injury (ex: Moses, RGIII), let's hope Akoy comes back next year at 100% and with the same level of athleticism and agility he had before the injury.
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Post by huskerpower on Nov 19, 2015 22:51:53 GMT -5
Just a little update. Surgery went well, not as bad as they feared. ACL only(bad enuff). He wants to play in March but has pretty much been told NO!!!! He conveyed to me in our conversation that he was in was inline to be a starter before this happened. Right now I'd say they could have used him.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Nov 19, 2015 22:56:37 GMT -5
Just a little update. Surgery went well, not as bad as they feared. ACL only(bad enuff). He wants to play in March but has pretty much been told NO!!!! He conveyed to me in our conversation that he was in was inline to be a starter before this happened. Right now I'd say they could have used him. Thanks for the report and great to hear! Who told him no? The doctors, the staff or the parents? Wish him the best from all of us at HoyaTalk!
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 20, 2015 7:30:10 GMT -5
It will be a long way to next season, but can't wait to see what he contributed. Kill that rehab Akoy!
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Post by kchoya on Nov 20, 2015 15:36:11 GMT -5
Torn ACL and out for the season, announced at the open practice this morning. I'm suspicious.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Nov 20, 2015 23:20:55 GMT -5
Just a little update. Surgery went well, not as bad as they feared. ACL only(bad enuff). He wants to play in March but has pretty much been told NO!!!! He conveyed to me in our conversation that he was in was inline to be a starter before this happened. Right now I'd say they could have used him. Thanks for the report and great to hear! Who told him no? The doctors, the staff or the parents? Wish him the best from all of us at HoyaTalk! Doesn't really matter. It wouldn't be in Akoy's best interest to try to be back in March. That's an injury that requires serious rehab. I admire his desire to come back quickly, both for himself and for his team, but I'd hate for him to rush and come back too early and hurt himself yet again. He's had a tough enough road with injuries. For his own health, it's better for him to focus on getting completely healthy before getting back at it full bore.
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rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Nov 20, 2015 23:37:36 GMT -5
Thanks for the report and great to hear! Who told him no? The doctors, the staff or the parents? Wish him the best from all of us at HoyaTalk! Doesn't really matter. It wouldn't be in Akoy's best interest to try to be back in March. That's an injury that requires serious rehab. I admire his desire to come back quickly, both for himself and for his team, but I'd hate for him to rush and come back too early and hurt himself yet again. He's had a tough enough road with injuries. For his own health, it's better for him to focus on getting completely healthy before getting back at it full bore. Everyone heals differently
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Nov 20, 2015 23:44:39 GMT -5
Doesn't really matter. It wouldn't be in Akoy's best interest to try to be back in March. That's an injury that requires serious rehab. I admire his desire to come back quickly, both for himself and for his team, but I'd hate for him to rush and come back too early and hurt himself yet again. He's had a tough enough road with injuries. For his own health, it's better for him to focus on getting completely healthy before getting back at it full bore. Everyone heals differently True. And we're discussing a guy that, up to this point, is often injured and not the quickest of healers. Not to mention that a minority of people that have reconstructive ACL surgery never fully recover. It would seem most logical to give Akoy his best chance at a full recovery, no?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 21, 2015 7:26:23 GMT -5
And not to mention - using an entire season of eligibility for at most a handful of games, when at best he would not be anywhere near "basketball shape". Give it the whole year, and then be a MONSTER next season.
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rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Nov 21, 2015 8:32:42 GMT -5
Everyone heals differently True. And we're discussing a guy that, up to this point, is often injured and not the quickest of healers. Not to mention that a minority of people that have reconstructive ACL surgery never fully recover. It would seem most logical to give Akoy his best chance at a full recovery, no? I mean you can't really determine what's logical unless you know the details of his situation...
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Post by huskerpower on Nov 21, 2015 10:37:38 GMT -5
To Platinum Hoya. I'm not sure what you are referring to when saying "often injured and not the quickest of healers". In the 7+ years I have known Akoy, the ONLY other injury he has, was the sports hernia at Louisville and "healing" time went as expected.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Nov 21, 2015 10:54:33 GMT -5
To Platinum Hoya. I'm not sure what you are referring to when saying "often injured and not the quickest of healers". In the 7+ years I have known Akoy, the ONLY other injury he has, was the sports hernia at Louisville and "healing" time went as expected. I'd love for Akoy to be back but my point was that a "sports" hernia, while nonspecific, would typically be a 6-8 week timeline. He was out 10. Regardless, an ACL is a much more serious injury. I'm not saying that the specifics of his situation shouldn't be considered or that his feelings on his own health aren't relevant. I'm only saying that, considering the injury itself, it's likely that caution is the primary directive for a young athlete who hopes to get back to playing at 100% of his capability.
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Post by goyahoya69 on Nov 21, 2015 12:56:02 GMT -5
best of luck to his recovery. i spoke with him at yates last semester just a week or two after the utah loss. he was nice enough to answer some of my questions about the team, as opposed to telling me to buzz off. my mouth salivation is reaching pavlovian canine levels thinking about adding another big, skilled body in the frontcourt with out current rotation. so many ways to win.
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