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Post by EtomicB on Feb 14, 2016 13:10:41 GMT -5
www.hoopseen.com/index.php/news/headlines/item/4200-primetime-shootout-day-one-bourama-sidibe-makes-his-caseJAGAN MOSELY, G, ST. ANTHONY’S, 2016: Another Big East signee, Mosely is headed to the Hilltop and already shows off a college ready body and an egoless mentality that should allow for immediate buy-in come next college basketball season. The Georgetown commit has been nitpicked for his shaky shooting numbers but what shouldn’t be swept under the rug is the consistent mindset that the Jersey native always has on tap. Standing at 6-foot-2 but with a 6-foot-9 wingspan, Mosely can practically lock up every spot on the floor besides the center position. On Saturday, Mosely didn’t do a ton of scoring but it was his pressure on the basketball that he exerted, victories within the 50-50 plays, and quality dribble drive and passing skills that really stood out. Mark it down, Mosely might not have the glitziest of games, but he is a winner and could become an All-Big East type defender in the coming years.As I've stated many times before I don't buy into the need for a true pg that many folks around Hoya land are begging for, I used to want kids that fit JT3's system but I've definitely learned this season that BB IQ should not be undersold when recruiting.. This year's team lack's BB IQ in a big way & it also lacks natural ball movers/passers also.. I'm still not sure if Mosely can be a primary ball handler next season but I do feel confident in saying that Jagan will help to fill these voids next season..
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Post by prhoya on Feb 14, 2016 13:19:50 GMT -5
At 6'2" and 6'9" wingspan, will he be able to stop 5'10" players from having fun and careers day with our defense?
TBD.
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 14, 2016 14:36:33 GMT -5
At 6'2" and 6'9" wingspan, will he be able to stop 5'10" players from having fun and careers day with our defense? TBD. Going against kids like Asante Gist 5-11(Eastern Kentucky commit), Shyquan Gibbs 6-0(NJIT commit) & RJ Cole 5-11 (offers from many MM schools) in practice should have Mosely nicely prepared to take on smaller guards.. On the flip side though one player shouldn't have to do it alone..
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 14, 2016 14:43:54 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 14:52:19 GMT -5
Looked on twitter after this game and nearly every post mentioned "great defense" regarding Jagan.. Moultrie who is a pretty highly regarded maybe 6 ft'er finished with 7.
Definitely love this kids makeup. Team first attitude, dedicated to playing both sides of the ball and willing to do whatever it takes for 40 err I mean 32 minutes to win. Think he is only scratching the surface on his potential also..
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Post by vv83 on Feb 14, 2016 15:04:56 GMT -5
I would not be surprised if we force feed Mosely as the starting PG next season. Unless Tre improves dramatically, there may be a lot more upside in taking our lumps with Mosley's learning curve early on. He is the kind of athletic, strong, unselfish, versatile, smart guard that we have lacked in recent years. Get him on the court, put the ball in his hands, and go from there. A backcourt of Mosely and Peak has the potential to be very strong defensively, and to also give us two big, strong guards who can get into the lane and cause problems. Those two differences alone would be so dramatic compared to this year's team.
The main challenge is that our non-conf. schedule is going to be real tough. Syracuse, Uconn, Maryland, Kansas, and 2 or 3 good teams in Hawaii. Some of those teams may be down a bit next year (Maryland is likely to be giving freshman/grad transfers a load of playing time, for example), but still a tough schedule. And that does not even include the guard-driven low major teams that will be even more terrifying (from a fan perspective) than the major conference teams!! But I don't think we would be any better playing this year's version of Campbell at PG over mosely, and the dream of getting a strong grad transfer PG is a real longshot (since every team in the country will be courting a grad transfer PG good enough to start for a high major program). I would rather see us take our lumps as Mosely learns than accept the limitations of Campbell, unless Tre can show some marked improvement.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 15:21:11 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 15:24:10 GMT -5
Mosely had the hot hand right from the opening tap, hitting a jumper off of a nice feed from Gibbs on the first possession of the game. There was more where that came from as Crusaders struggled to contain the Georgetown-bound guard with 10 first-quarter points, including six in an 11-0 run to end the opening stanza for a 22-8 lead. “This is the last game in a five-game home streak so I felt pretty comfortable shooting here,” said Mosley. “We practice with high intensity which helps us getting off to good starts. We had a strong first quarter but we can’t have mental lapses like we had tonight if we want to be state champs.” Mosely had a game-high 18 points to go with four rebounds, three assists, and two steals for St. Anthony (20-0). Gibbs had 15 points and four assists, all of which came in the first quarter. Junior guard RJ Cole chipped in with eight points.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Feb 14, 2016 16:15:50 GMT -5
I would not be surprised if we force feed Mosely as the starting PG next season. Unless Tre improves dramatically, there may be a lot more upside in taking our lumps with Mosley's learning curve early on. He is the kind of athletic, strong, unselfish, versatile, smart guard that we have lacked in recent years. Get him on the court, put the ball in his hands, and go from there. A backcourt of Mosely and Peak has the potential to be very strong defensively, and to also give us two big, strong guards who can get into the lane and cause problems. Those two differences alone would be so dramatic compared to this year's team. The main challenge is that our non-conf. schedule is going to be real tough. Syracuse, Uconn, Maryland, Kansas, and 2 or 3 good teams in Hawaii. Some of those teams may be down a bit next year (Maryland is likely to be giving freshman/grad transfers a load of playing time, for example), but still a tough schedule. And that does not even include the guard-driven low major teams that will be even more terrifying (from a fan perspective) than the major conference teams!! But I don't think we would be any better playing this year's version of Campbell at PG over mosely, and the dream of getting a strong grad transfer PG is a real longshot (since every team in the country will be courting a grad transfer PG good enough to start for a high major program). I would rather see us take our lumps as Mosely learns than accept the limitations of Campbell, unless Tre can show some marked improvement. Jagan has already demonstrated that he has better court vision, ball movement skills and a willingness to take on contact and score inside the key. All aspects that Tre has struggled with this season. The 2 advantages that Tre should have, perimeter shooting and ball handling are not strong enough advantages to keep Jagan from starting ahead of Tre. Tre isn't shooting the ball well this season and outside the Xavier game you could say he has been very poor at shooting the ball from the perimeter, he is awful at attacking the basket because he's afraid of contact, and his handle has been average at best. Your point guard shouldn't be dribbling of his foot and loosing the ball out of bounds against minor pressure like Tre did yesterday against Providence. Kaleb should be playing more minutes then Tre right now. Kaleb has been a better player this season and with Kaleb on the floor, we wouldn't have to play 4 on 5. Kaleb gives you defensive effort and on the glass and a willingness to attack the basket off the bounce and shoot the ball when wide open. Tre has been an awful defender all season long and hasn't given us any of those other aspects either outside of the Xavier game. I believe Jagan will be ready to play 20 minutes a game to start the season. If Jagan's not ready to start, I could see a starting backcourt combination of LJ Peak and Paul White or Kaleb Johnson. So unless Tre pulls a 180 in his skills improvement and confidence I don't see him being anymore then a spot minutes player which is exactly what he should be playing right now.
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Post by goyahoya69 on Feb 14, 2016 22:22:15 GMT -5
not sure how familiar you all are with this name: wade baldwin from vanderbilt. that's who i envision when i think of jagan. a 6-3 guard with great defense who can do a bit of everything. this baldwin kid is projected mid- to late-first round pick this year. not saying this is the kind of player jagan will definitely turn into, just saying that he COULD end up being this type of player, which would be great.
i love kids who come from winning high school programs: they're not very familiar with losing and it must leave a bad taste in their mouths. jagan strikes me as a no non-sense kind of player. gotta love it.
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Post by wnyhoya on Feb 14, 2016 22:37:42 GMT -5
For those who have seen Jagan play, can he get into the lane at will? We all know this is a skill set we need so badly and don't really have outside of LJ
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Post by MCIGuy on Feb 14, 2016 22:39:37 GMT -5
not sure how familiar you all are with this name: wade baldwin from vanderbilt. that's who i envision when i think of jagan. a 6-3 guard with great defense who can do a bit of everything. this baldwin kid is projected mid- to late-first round pick this year. not saying this is the kind of player jagan will definitely turn into, just saying that he COULD end up being this type of player, which would be great. He might at the moment be far away from a pro prospect but a point guard of that height and THAT type of wingspan with amazing athleticism thrown in the mix has a chance to get to that level if he s able to improve his skill level in college. He has the size and athleticism which you can't teach. He has the mentality to want to play defense and the speed that allows him to do so. He has leadership skills and a team-first attitude. Now he needs to work on his shooting and put some more time in on his ballhandling. III is pretty good at helping kids improve on the former at least.
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Post by MCIGuy on Feb 14, 2016 22:45:33 GMT -5
For those who have seen Jagan play, can he get into the lane at will? We all know this is a skill set we need so badly and don't really have outside of LJ Johnson can get to the basket when he likes as well. He just hadn't had enough time on the court to prove this and gain confidence at doing so. I believe Tre can get to the hole too but he doesn't seem to have much interest in driving towards the trees nor does he seem to have much of an idea of how to finish at the rack when challenge by taller opponents. Remember though that people on this very board at the end of last season didn't think much of Peak's driving abilities and compared him very unfavoravly to Jabril on that front. A year later it becomes clear that Peak is more skilled and equipped at getting to the basket than Jabril ever was.
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Post by 95hoya on Feb 14, 2016 23:04:19 GMT -5
I don't think he is a PG. He's more comfortable making plays slashing from the wing. Smart player who can find and attack the creases in the defense aggressively. Then again, JTIII says we don't need a natural, ball dominant PG.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Feb 15, 2016 9:15:18 GMT -5
sounds like Jason Clark
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 15, 2016 9:31:28 GMT -5
Clark wasn't super athletic or explosive. Just had long arms (6-7 wingspan) and some speed. Jagan has an even bigger wingspan (6-9 wingspan) and is alot more explosive, athletic and an above the rim type player.
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Post by rockhoya on Feb 15, 2016 12:25:45 GMT -5
Clark wasn't super athletic or explosive. Just had long arms (6-7 wingspan) and some speed. Jagan has an even bigger wingspan (6-9 wingspan) and is alot more explosive, athletic and an above the rim type player. While Jason may not be Jagan, Jason had the best fast-twitch muscles of any Hoya I've seen in the III era and he was plenty explosive. He just wasn't bouncy. He does sound very similar to Jagan in his motor and winning attitude. I wouldn't be surprised to see him make a more physical impact than Jason, but Jason might've been even quicker moving his feet and he stil didn't maximize dis defensive potential. Clark's wingspan was closer to 6'8" and it's not like we haven't had guards with plus wingspans in the past not pan out (Austin's was 6'11"). That said, I think Jagan is going to be a hybrid of Jabril and Jason but will be one of the best winners/competitors we've seen during III's tenure.
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Post by TBird41 on Feb 15, 2016 12:32:59 GMT -5
I don't think he is a PG. He's more comfortable making plays slashing from the wing. Smart player who can find and attack the creases in the defense aggressively. Then again, JTIII says we don't need a natural, ball dominant PG. Even if he's more of a Russell Westbrook type than a Ricky Rubio type, Mosely's going to get time at PG for us, and we should all want him to get time and develop as a PG, because it looks like he has NBA level athleticism and the potential to be a 1st round pick, but at 6'2, he's going to need to show he can play PG to do so. He's our best chance right now to send a point guard to the NBA, which the program desperately needs to do for recruiting purposes.
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Post by 95hoya on Feb 15, 2016 14:12:42 GMT -5
It's way too premature to call him a potential 1st round pick. I don't want to seem like I am down on Jagan, but we need to have realistic expectations about a kid who isn't highly rated by anybody. I think he is going to be a great glue guy and representative of GU.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2016 14:51:24 GMT -5
For those who have seen Jagan play, can he get into the lane at will? We all know this is a skill set we need so badly and don't really have outside of LJ On straight line drives like Peak he has been and can be efective... He doesn't have a lot of wiggle right now and Peaks first step is really good so well have to see. Jagans a smart kid, he understands the game and will make the correct play rather than go for the spectacular one. He takes pride in his defense, dives for loose balls, will hit the boards etc... Etomic has been paying attention to this kid forever and I agree that at least initially his impact will be larger than his statline and when u look at how many games come down to a bucket or 2 you can see how his whatever I need to do to win mentality will be an asset.. One thing im not worried about is his shooting. His foundation is good and he will put the work in..
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