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Post by Filo on Apr 13, 2015 15:27:42 GMT -5
I don't get all the anger in this thread. My posts have always been complimentary of the player. I think its odd that there were big public announcements, and then silence. Some of you guys don't think that's odd. So, we just disagree. One guy here in particular keeps demanding "evidence" as if this were some kind of episode of "Law and Order." Its not, its a place where we talk about what we perceive is happening. College sports aren't very transparent in any case and our program is tighter than most. Lastly, its not character assassination to kick around whether a player foregoing a degree is making a good or bad decision. Particularly since kits been made clear that we don't know key facts: what overseas salaries are truly available, what is the deal about Hoyas looking to return for their degrees, etc. Given all this lack of solid information, some of you guys need to throttle back and turn off the flame throwers See, here is the problem, and it happens all the time. Your original post was not so gosh-darn complimentary and a simple gee-whiz-I-am-just a good guy speculating. Here is what you wrote: The longer this drags out the more likely it is that the original story will hold. Maybe some trashy agent comes out of the weeds waving a "contract" signed by [allegedly] DSR, that "agent's" first and only client. Meanwhile the agent scrambling for accreditation status. This scenario plays out only too frequently. When the contract is voided because the agent wasn't certified, he pulls the pin on the grenade and blows up everybody in the room by saying that the player has accepted "improper benefits" ($$$) over the last year. Of course that prevents the agent from ever being an agent but also prevents the player from returning to school. Hope thats not the deal here. When you write stuff like that, you should expect to get some measure of flaming back at you. To expect otherwise is, well, let me call it disingenuous, because the alternatives are even less complimentary than that, and I want to be a gosh-darn good fellow poster to you, my brother.
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Post by kchoya on Apr 13, 2015 16:08:57 GMT -5
I guess the downside of such trips is that by the end of the year, the team might be pretty tired. I hope they pace themselves. I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but I don't think anyone feels this way.
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Post by kchoya on Apr 13, 2015 16:10:10 GMT -5
I don't get all the anger in this thread. My posts have always been complimentary of the player. I think its odd that there were big public announcements, and then silence. Some of you guys don't think that's odd. So, we just disagree. One guy here in particular keeps demanding "evidence" as if this were some kind of episode of "Law and Order." Its not, its a place where we talk about what we perceive is happening. College sports aren't very transparent in any case and our program is tighter than most. Lastly, its not character assassination to kick around whether a player foregoing a degree is making a good or bad decision. Particularly since kits been made clear that we don't know key facts: what overseas salaries are truly available, what is the deal about Hoyas looking to return for their degrees, etc. Given all this lack of solid information, some of you guys need to throttle back and turn off the flame throwers People get angry when you continually make a claim that is simply not true. Why can't you just admit that you're wrong?
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 13, 2015 16:18:43 GMT -5
I guess that ends the speculation. Those were actually quite forthcoming comments from JT3 considering his comments are usually pretty sedated - especially his comments about Copeland and being good next year (I agree with him!).
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Post by grandmahoya on Apr 13, 2015 17:50:39 GMT -5
Happy it's official that DSR will be coming back. He made the right choice. Can't wait til the August tournament in Italy, to see how the new players will interact with the veterans. Instead of waiting until November, we get our basketball "fix" a lot earlier this year. Love JTIII's upbeat outlook for next season.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Apr 13, 2015 18:14:30 GMT -5
I guess the downside of such trips is that by the end of the year, the team might be pretty tired. I hope they pace themselves. I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but I don't think anyone feels this way. Not being sarcastic, kc; I like the idea of such a trip and the 10 days start on training, but hope they don't run out of gas in the NCAAs.
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Post by tashoya on Apr 13, 2015 18:56:02 GMT -5
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but I don't think anyone feels this way. Not being sarcastic, kc; I like the idea of such a trip and the 10 days start on training, but hope they don't run out of gas in the NCAAs. Keep in mind, Nevada, that we have better depth than in many years past. Also, the games could get cut short by brawls.
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Post by kchoya on Apr 13, 2015 19:37:35 GMT -5
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but I don't think anyone feels this way. Not being sarcastic, kc; I like the idea of such a trip and the 10 days start on training, but hope they don't run out of gas in the NCAAs. Couple of points in favor of the trip: 1. The kids are 18-23 years old. I don't think a trip in August will tire them out. 2. This is 45 days before midnight madness. They'll have time to recover, if needed. 3. It's three games. UK played 8 in Atlantis this year and did ok. 4. After the China trip, I don't think the team ran out of gas at the end of the year. In fact, that was the last time the team won a NCAA game before this year.
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Post by bicentennial on Apr 13, 2015 19:52:00 GMT -5
My sense of European basketball right or wrong is that it is not as likely to end in brawls as playing a Chinese army team that expects other teams to lose because of fear of who they are and what they represent.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 13, 2015 20:02:00 GMT -5
My sense of European basketball right or wrong is that it is not as likely to end in brawls as playing a Chinese army team that expects other teams to lose because of fear of who they are and what they represent. I think that's probably right. And, since it's Europe, I am hoping perhaps some of the games will be streamed online. That might be wishful thinking, but by August we will all be desperate for some Hoyas basketball.
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Post by tashoya on Apr 13, 2015 22:43:28 GMT -5
DSR = Damn Sure Returning.
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Post by prhoya on Apr 14, 2015 0:49:18 GMT -5
My sense of European basketball right or wrong is that it is not as likely to end in brawls as playing a Chinese army team that expects other teams to lose because of fear of who they are and what they represent. Italian basketball contains flopping. Again, great scheduling by JT3 in preparation for the possible game vs Duke in the 2K Classic!!!
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Post by canissaxa on Apr 14, 2015 10:06:32 GMT -5
Who is this John Thompson III character, and why should we take him seriously when he says things like "We've got D'Vauntes coming back as a senior"? I'm not sure, but he lost all credibility when he said Cameron can challenge for minutes because of his shooting.
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 14, 2015 10:11:17 GMT -5
Who is this John Thompson III character, and why should we take him seriously when he says things like "We've got D'Vauntes coming back as a senior"? I'm not sure, but he lost all credibility when he said Cameron can challenge for minutes because of his shooting. Wait, doesn't he watch him miss repeatedly in practice everyday?
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Apr 14, 2015 10:12:41 GMT -5
Cameron CAN challenge for minutes if he is knocking down shots. If not, he will sit, like he did this year. Give the guy a chance.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 14, 2015 10:23:58 GMT -5
Cameron CAN challenge for minutes if he is knocking down shots. If not, he will sit, like he did this year. Give the guy a chance. It would be an important plus for us if Reggie can find his shot in game situations. I would prefer to be supportive of the young man and hope he gets some minutes to see if he can do it. His form still looks good most of the time; he just needs that spark of confidence that a few swishes can bring.
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Post by calhoya on Apr 14, 2015 11:26:58 GMT -5
Cameron CAN challenge for minutes if he is knocking down shots. If not, he will sit, like he did this year. Give the guy a chance. It would be an important plus for us if Reggie can find his shot in game situations. I would prefer to be supportive of the young man and hope he gets some minutes to see if he can do it. His form still looks good most of the time; he just needs that spark of confidence that a few swishes can bring. Completely agree with these sentiments. Reggie, like some other recent whipping boys around here, needs confidence, not criticism at this point in his career. His stroke looks fine. He has improved his conditioning and his defense this past year, though still a work in progress. He got into games with essentially a 3 minute, one miss window and that amount of pressure is going to impact anyone. I am glad the Coach has left open the door for a potentially strong shooter on a team sorely lacking in that department.
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Post by drquigley on Apr 14, 2015 12:41:45 GMT -5
I think we all hope Reggie finds his stroke but I don't think it is unfair to point out that finding it may entail a major expedition. Reggie not only misses, he misses BAD. i actually had to wince at some of his misses. Maybe some pasta fizzoul on the Italian trip will do the trick.
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Post by CaliHoya on Apr 14, 2015 12:46:16 GMT -5
From the outside, it definitely feels like Reggie is showing the coaches something in practice, and then overthinking things under the bright lights. He doesn't seem confident when he's releasing his shot and always seems to take it overly hard with every miss (affecting his play on defense). I hope this isn't a case like Domingo, where the staff can't figure out how to rectify Reggie's confidence.
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Post by kghoya on Apr 14, 2015 13:04:36 GMT -5
From the outside, it definitely feels like Reggie is showing the coaches something in practice, and then overthinking things under the bright lights. He doesn't seem confident when he's releasing his shot and always seems to take it overly hard with every miss (affecting his play on defense). I hope this isn't a case like Domingo, where the staff can't figure out how to rectify Reggie's confidence. Domingo had poor mechanics on his shot. Cameron seems to have a nice release. I think it's possible that he still ends up contributing.
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