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Post by jld on Mar 31, 2015 14:36:40 GMT -5
Absolutely. Best of luck -- these guys can make some good money overseas and he can complete a degree if he wishes to. He was at his peak pro-wise and another year in college was not going to help -- it could only hurt. Again we need a fifth year transfer!
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Post by hoyainspirit on Mar 31, 2015 14:38:05 GMT -5
Yo, rock, what were you saying about ball handling and not being worried? It's clearly now a different situation, but you can continue being a child about it if that's what gets you through the day. Just love getting a rise out of you on the board, that's all. It's so predictable and easy to do.
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Post by Z on Mar 31, 2015 14:40:18 GMT -5
I know nothing, but it seems plausible that DSR's hand has been forced - e.g., he wasn't going to be welcomed back to Gtown (for whatever reason) and this route of declaring w/ an agent saves him some face. Mere speculation, but would help explain an otherwise tough-to-explain situation...
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 31, 2015 14:40:58 GMT -5
Our depth at guard is now Campbell/Copeland and......crickets. We need a transfer guard and at minimum two guards in this '16 class. Good luck DSR, I hope you have an agent who already has interest from some high level euro squads where I think he could be a good fit.
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Post by beenaround on Mar 31, 2015 14:41:56 GMT -5
For some reason, this is not a surprise to me. I stated in some of the recruiting threads , months ago that I expected he would be gone. As others have said in the past few minutes, there was probably not much chance his draft stock would increase much by playing another year. He is highly skilled already, just limited athletically and not really tall enough. So, he might as well not lose a year of making money playing ball, even if it is Europe, like a Jason Clark, Markel or Austin. He was a great Hoya and will be rooting for him to make the NBA. In terms of next year for us...don't even want to think about it!
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Post by aleutianhoya on Mar 31, 2015 14:42:06 GMT -5
I know nothing, but it seems plausible that DSR's hand has been forced - e.g., he wasn't going to be welcomed back to Gtown (for whatever reason) and this route of declaring w/ an agent saves him some face. Mere speculation, but would help explain an otherwise tough-to-explain situation... Seems highly implausible.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 31, 2015 14:42:39 GMT -5
This is why all the discussions about redshirting are stupid. DSR is not going to be drafted. But he probably can make enough money leaving that it doesn't matter. How so TC? What does DSR have to do with red shirting? What this should tell all of us is that the staff should never stop/stall it's recruiting efforts, especially when there are spots available.. A number of posters downplayed the need for additional backcourt help in 2015, how's that working out now?
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Post by Big Dog on Mar 31, 2015 14:42:39 GMT -5
Wow. Good luck to DSR and thanks for so many great moments and performances.
But this program--and therefore by extension this conference (and thus cycling back to reinforce it for this program)--is Editeded. Goodbye top 25 ranking. Goodbye optimistic Sweet Sixteen projections. Goodbye Verizon attendance.
Goodbye hopes of ever returning to perennial top 15 status (maybe these were gone already).
Next year was going to be so critical to rebuilding the league and the program's reputation and to try to capture some form of national relevance. The odds of that happening now without DSR are extremely slim.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 31, 2015 14:43:11 GMT -5
I know nothing, but it seems plausible that DSR's hand has been forced - e.g., he wasn't going to be welcomed back to Gtown (for whatever reason) and this route of declaring w/ an agent saves him some face. Mere speculation, but would help explain an otherwise tough-to-explain situation... And DanMcQ comes in 3... 2... 1...
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Post by hoyainspirit on Mar 31, 2015 14:44:04 GMT -5
I doubt this decision was made in a vacuum. I would guess that the powers that be discussed the situation, gave him the best info they could to help him make his choice. I hope so, anyway. DSR was fun to watch for three years. Wish him all the best.
That said, we would have been much better with him than we will be without him. Still hoping we are going to be a monster next year.
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Post by calhoya on Mar 31, 2015 14:45:41 GMT -5
Wish him well and move on. He was a committed player who stayed out of trouble and honored the school and the program by his participation on the team. Cannot blame these guys anymore for looking at the money. Kids wake up and find that their coach is gone or that they have been recruited over.
What it means for next season is that the Hoyas are going to be desperate for a shooting guard. Tre? LJ? Perhaps, but more than likely this affords Paul White an opportunity to learn a new position and improve his handle enough to play the off guard with Copeland. It becomes critical for LJ, White and even Reggie to get in the gym this summer and improve their outside shots. It is also critical for the coaches to look hard for that 5th year transfer who might come in and be handed significant minutes immediately.
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 31, 2015 14:48:01 GMT -5
Wow. Good luck to DSR and thanks for so many great moments and performances. But this program--and therefore by extension this conference (and thus cycling back to reinforce it for this program)--is Editeded. Goodbye top 25 ranking. Goodbye optimistic Sweet Sixteen projections. Goodbye Verizon attendance. Goodbye hopes of ever returning to perennial top 15 status (maybe these were gone already). Next year was going to be so critical to rebuilding the league and the program's reputation and to try to capture some form of national relevance. The odds of that happening now without DSR are extremely slim. Not so fast, BD. It comes up whenever a school loses a player early. Let's see what JT3 does to replace DSR for the upcoming season, and beyond. After all, he was done after next season anyway. Were we going to be done after his anticipated departure at the end of the 2015-2016 season?
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Post by prhoya on Mar 31, 2015 14:49:05 GMT -5
This is why all the discussions about redshirting are stupid. DSR is not going to be drafted. But he probably can make enough money leaving that it doesn't matter. How so TC? What does DSR have to do with red shirting? What this should tell all of us is that the staff should never stop/stall it's recruiting efforts, especially when there are spots available.. A number of posters downplayed the need for additional backcourt help in 2015, how's that working out now? I cannot believe he has stopped recruiting at every position for 2015 just in case a talent is/becomes available. If so, then this is yet another chapter in the 10-year learning experience of JT3 on how to be a successful coach and recruiter outside of the Ivy League.
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Post by dreamhoya on Mar 31, 2015 14:49:42 GMT -5
From what I can tell, D'Vauntes marches to the beat of his own drum - he's not a "go with the flow" type. I'm surprised he stayed 3 years. He also does have a difficult time assessing the extent of his talent. He is talented but it's difficult for him to assess the full reality of a situation. He is a risk taker too and if there's anyone that believes that anyone can succeed despite what others think it's him. But...we'll see. He can be in the league if someone takes a flyer on him. Anyway, wish him the best love the guy and he'll always be a Hoya unless he talks bad about the program after the fact
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Post by prhoya on Mar 31, 2015 14:53:47 GMT -5
It becomes critical for LJ, White and even Reggie to get in the gym this summer and improve their outside shots. It is also critical for the coaches to look hard for that 5th year transfer who might come in and be handed significant minutes immediately. Is Reggie here next year? Don't answer.
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 31, 2015 14:53:49 GMT -5
For some reason, this is not a surprise to me. I stated in some of the recruiting threads , months ago that I expected he would be gone. As others have said in the past few minutes, there was probably not much chance his draft stock would increase much by playing another year. He is highly skilled already, just limited athletically and not really tall enough. So, he might as well not lose a year of making money playing ball, even if it is Europe, like a Jason Clark, Markel or Austin. He was a great Hoya and will be rooting for him to make the NBA. In terms of next year for us...don't even want to think about it! I agree. People don't seem to realize that our opinion of DSR's game is not DSR's opinion of his game. What I have always liked about DSR going back to when I first saw him at Oak Hill, he thinks that he is the best player on the court. This hurt Gtown basketball and maybe DSR doesn't get drafted but I don't think for a second that DSR is thinking about Europe or the D-league. The kid thinks that he is the best guard in the draft. And in his defense, this year he has improved on all of our worries coming into the season. He should have come back but as it has already been stated, his stock wasn't improving much regardless.
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Post by strummer8526 on Mar 31, 2015 14:54:11 GMT -5
Wish him well and move on. He was a committed player who stayed out of trouble and honored the school and the program by his participation on the team. Cannot blame these guys anymore for looking at the money. Kids wake up and find that their coach is gone or that they have been recruited over.What it means for next season is that the Hoyas are going to be desperate for a shooting guard. Tre? LJ? Perhaps, but more than likely this affords Paul White an opportunity to learn a new position and improve his handle enough to play the off guard with Copeland. It becomes critical for LJ, White and even Reggie to get in the gym this summer and improve their outside shots. It is also critical for the coaches to look hard for that 5th year transfer who might come in and be handed significant minutes immediately. DSR had the most stable coach and secure playing time of anyone in college basketball. Let's not pretend he's some victim who needed to get out of Georgetown before the program turned on him. Call it like it is: He wants to make money (probably Euros) and doesn't mind sacrificing a Georgetown degree to do it.
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 31, 2015 14:54:58 GMT -5
Wish him well and move on. He was a committed player who stayed out of trouble and honored the school and the program by his participation on the team. Cannot blame these guys anymore for looking at the money. Kids wake up and find that their coach is gone or that they have been recruited over.What it means for next season is that the Hoyas are going to be desperate for a shooting guard. Tre? LJ? Perhaps, but more than likely this affords Paul White an opportunity to learn a new position and improve his handle enough to play the off guard with Copeland. It becomes critical for LJ, White and even Reggie to get in the gym this summer and improve their outside shots. It is also critical for the coaches to look hard for that 5th year transfer who might come in and be handed significant minutes immediately. DSR had the most stable coach and secure playing time of anyone in college basketball. Let's not pretend he's some victim who needed to get out of Georgetown before the program turned on him. Call it like it is: He wants to make money (probably Euros) and doesn't mind sacrificing a Georgetown degree to do it. How do you know he is sacrificing a Georgetown degree?
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Post by NCHoya on Mar 31, 2015 14:55:25 GMT -5
I know nothing, but it seems plausible that DSR's hand has been forced - e.g., he wasn't going to be welcomed back to Gtown (for whatever reason) and this route of declaring w/ an agent saves him some face. Mere speculation, but would help explain an otherwise tough-to-explain situation... No, that does not sound plausible. What is plausible is DSR had nothing to gain by remaining in college another year (his NBA draft grade is not changing) and he decided it was time to be paid for his work on the court. More power to him. He will be more than welcomed back at Georgetown if he would like to get his degree like Jeff Green.
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 31, 2015 14:57:43 GMT -5
Wow. Good luck to DSR and thanks for so many great moments and performances. But this program--and therefore by extension this conference (and thus cycling back to reinforce it for this program)--is Editeded. Goodbye top 25 ranking. Goodbye optimistic Sweet Sixteen projections. Goodbye Verizon attendance. Goodbye hopes of ever returning to perennial top 15 status (maybe these were gone already). Next year was going to be so critical to rebuilding the league and the program's reputation and to try to capture some form of national relevance. The odds of that happening now without DSR are extremely slim. Not so fast, BD. It comes up whenever a school loses a player early. Let's see what JT3 does to replace DSR for the upcoming season, and beyond. After all, he was done after next season anyway. Were we going to be done after his anticipated departure at the end of the 2015-2016 season? I'm with Big Dog here, especially if we don't add an eligible transfer. We have one guy on the roster that can play point guard. We are now losing our top 3 scorers (more than 1/2 of our points) and top 3 rebounders. We have no one that has shown they can lead an offense, or who has ever been the focus of a defense.
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