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Post by professorhoya on Mar 30, 2015 22:44:12 GMT -5
Anyone comment on when and if we will get help at 1. This is the area of greatest concern for me by far. Why. You have DSR and Tre Campbell at the one. LJ will shift over to the two with Kaleb Johnson. Copland can play at his natural position (3). Paul White also at the 3. Then Derrickson, Trey Mouring and Agau at Power Forward Govan, Bradley Hayes, Agau (again) at center.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Mar 31, 2015 7:02:42 GMT -5
Reggie?
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Post by hoyainspirit on Mar 31, 2015 7:08:51 GMT -5
Anyone comment on when and if we will get help at 1. This is the area of greatest concern for me by far. Why. You have DSR and Tre Campbell at the one. LJ will shift over to the two with Kaleb Johnson. Copland can play at his natural position (3). Paul White also at the 3. Then Derrickson, Trey Mouring and Agau at Power Forward Govan, Bradley Hayes, Agau (again) at center. He's got a point. Someone's got to step up as that third ball handler, as Trawick did when called upon. Who's that person on this squad? No one's had that responsibility yet.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 31, 2015 8:27:10 GMT -5
Hopefully LJ is working hard on his handle as well as his shot mechanics.
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Post by NCHoya on Mar 31, 2015 8:58:03 GMT -5
Agreed, that third ball handler should be LJ. Our 2 guards should be required to have that ability since they are not knockdown shooters. Is Kaleb a decent ball handler?
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Post by Filo on Mar 31, 2015 9:31:27 GMT -5
Issac has a good chance to someday be a lottery pick. He was ranked right where he should've been I think he has the ability to do so too. But when I look at this list, the majority of the Top 15 have demonstrated they are lottery picks right now, with the exception of a few. Just look at the mock draft boards out there. Additionally there a few guys (Tremble, Delgado, Booker, Ullis, Vaughn) who would be ranked higher than him right now. Look at a guy like Justice who was ranked one place higher than Ike. Justice is a consensus Top 10 pick right now, Ike is not. This is not a knock on him, just an observation on his standing right now compared to others he was considered on par with this time last year. There have been bigger busts and other sleepers, so I think Ike fits somewhere in between. And if it means he just needs 1-2 years to get back on the level as these peers, it's selfishly better for us anyway. Interesting point. Wonder how Winslow would have fared for the Hoyas this year and Ike would have fared for Duke. Winslow had almost double Ike's minutes and stats. Adjusted for 40 minutes per game, they were not that far off from each other (Just looked it up but couldn't post it. Sorry). Winslow has really come into his own during the tournament, which obviously helps his draft status.
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Post by rockhoya on Mar 31, 2015 9:59:10 GMT -5
Why. You have DSR and Tre Campbell at the one. LJ will shift over to the two with Kaleb Johnson. Copland can play at his natural position (3). Paul White also at the 3. Then Derrickson, Trey Mouring and Agau at Power Forward Govan, Bradley Hayes, Agau (again) at center. He's got a point. Someone's got to step up as that third ball handler, as Trawick did when called upon. Who's that person on this squad? No one's had that responsibility yet. LJ did early in the year and Paul knows how to not lose the ball in he full court..
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Post by mfk24 on Mar 31, 2015 10:10:32 GMT -5
He's got a point. Someone's got to step up as that third ball handler, as Trawick did when called upon. Who's that person on this squad? No one's had that responsibility yet. LJ did early in the year and Paul knows how to not lose the ball in he full court.. I was actually pretty impressed with White's ability to initiate the offense at times. He showed flashes of point-forward to me, feeding Ike in the high post, even on the lob that they didn't quite connect on. I don't see why he can't step into that role at times next season.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Mar 31, 2015 10:40:34 GMT -5
LJ did early in the year and Paul knows how to not lose the ball in he full court.. I was actually pretty impressed with White's ability to initiate the offense at times. He showed flashes of point-forward to me, feeding Ike in the high post, even on the lob that they didn't quite connect on. I don't see why he can't step into that role at times next season. I'm not saying he can't, either. He's handled the ball in the flow of the offense, but he has yet to be called upon to be a ball handler, like DSR, Tre, or Trawick. I hope we don't have to rely on him for that role. Peak's handle must improve significantly, IMO, for him to be someone we count on like that. Again, I'm not saying that they are incapable of fulfilling that need. They haven't yet, though, so for me it is an area of concern.
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Post by rockhoya on Mar 31, 2015 11:48:09 GMT -5
I was actually pretty impressed with White's ability to initiate the offense at times. He showed flashes of point-forward to me, feeding Ike in the high post, even on the lob that they didn't quite connect on. I don't see why he can't step into that role at times next season. I'm not saying he can't, either. He's handled the ball in the flow of the offense, but he has yet to be called upon to be a ball handler, like DSR, Tre, or Trawick. I hope we don't have to rely on him for that role. Peak's handle must improve significantly, IMO, for him to be someone we count on like that. Again, I'm not saying that they are incapable of fulfilling that need. They haven't yet, though, so for me it is an area of concern. Did you watch the OOC? I mean, I'm not saying III was trying to integrate those aspects into his offense, but to say they haven't yet is a bit inaccurate, imo. They showed a lot more early on in the area of ball security than the vast majority of frosh under III....there's a reason the seniors led us in turnovers and not the freshman...
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Post by lda05816 on Mar 31, 2015 11:55:09 GMT -5
Casual Hoya casualhoya · 1m 1 minute ago Hearing not so great things about D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera being back at Georgetown next season. Hopefully wrong.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Mar 31, 2015 12:00:56 GMT -5
Casual Hoya casualhoya · 1m 1 minute ago Hearing not so great things about D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera being back at Georgetown next season. Hopefully wrong. commence panic.
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Post by matersammich on Mar 31, 2015 12:04:15 GMT -5
Casual Hoya casualhoya · 1m 1 minute ago Hearing not so great things about D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera being back at Georgetown next season. Hopefully wrong. commence panic. Holy Editedballs that's no bueno.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Mar 31, 2015 12:07:03 GMT -5
I'm not saying he can't, either. He's handled the ball in the flow of the offense, but he has yet to be called upon to be a ball handler, like DSR, Tre, or Trawick. I hope we don't have to rely on him for that role. Peak's handle must improve significantly, IMO, for him to be someone we count on like that. Again, I'm not saying that they are incapable of fulfilling that need. They haven't yet, though, so for me it is an area of concern. Did you watch the OOC? I mean, I'm not saying III was trying to integrate those aspects into his offense, but to say they haven't yet is a bit inaccurate, imo. They showed a lot more early on in the area of ball security than the vast majority of frosh under III....there's a reason the seniors led us in turnovers and not the freshman... OK, rock.
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 31, 2015 12:10:22 GMT -5
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Post by matersammich on Mar 31, 2015 12:11:15 GMT -5
That is the only reasonable course of action.
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Post by rockhoya on Mar 31, 2015 12:15:52 GMT -5
Did you watch the OOC? I mean, I'm not saying III was trying to integrate those aspects into his offense, but to say they haven't yet is a bit inaccurate, imo. They showed a lot more early on in the area of ball security than the vast majority of frosh under III....there's a reason the seniors led us in turnovers and not the freshman... OK, rock. What is wrong with you man, why can't you have a normal, informative discussion? I'm entitled to my opinion and if you disagree with it feel free to explain why, that's the whole point of this board. This weird/childish response every time I say something has got to stop. You're obsesseed and I don't even have a clue why.
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Post by lda05816 on Mar 31, 2015 12:16:31 GMT -5
That is the only reasonable course of action. Let's all just hope its an early April fools joke
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 31, 2015 12:20:17 GMT -5
Hopefully there is no truth to this. Obviously not the gospel, but most Mock Drafts don't have him anywhere on their boards; is that because they didn't anticipate him leaving or he wouldnt project as a 1st round pick anyway? Probably a little of both... www.nbadraft.net/2015mock_draftwww.cbssports.com/nba/draft/prospect-rankingswww.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2015/Where would he even slot in based on the guys who are on these lists? Outside of the obvious lottery picks, he would fall below both Dunn and Grant I'd think? Is he in the range with Wright, Rozier, Lavert, Tyus Jones, RJ Hunter, Booker? He's got to be a borderline 1st round pick at best, and there is a huge difference in 1st round guarantees versus 2nd round status. For his own good, I hope he's getting good advice...
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Post by lda05816 on Mar 31, 2015 12:22:19 GMT -5
Hopefully there is no truth to this. Obviously not the gospel, but most Mock Drafts don't have him anywhere on their boards; is that because they didn't anticipate him leaving or he wouldnt project as a 1st round pick anyway? Probably a little of both... www.nbadraft.net/2015mock_draftwww.cbssports.com/nba/draft/prospect-rankingswww.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2015/Where would he even slot in based on the guys who are on these lists? Outside of the obvious lottery picks, he would fall below both Dunn and Grant I'd think? Is he in the range with Wright, Rozier, Lavert, Tyus Jones, RJ Hunter, Booker? He's got to be a borderline 1st round pick at best, and there is a huge difference in 1st round guarantees versus 2nd round status. For his own good, I hope he's getting good advice... Not anywhere close to any of those guys you've listed imo
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