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Post by richfame on Mar 8, 2015 6:52:48 GMT -5
Would we rather be a 6 seed over a 5 seed so we can advance to play the 2 seed and ensure we avoid kentucky. If our biggest worry is having to play Kentucky in the Sweet Sixteen - I am absolutely fine with that. Isn't everyones biggest concern playing kentucky!! I'd think any contender would want to avoid playing kentucky as long as possible.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 8, 2015 7:50:18 GMT -5
If our biggest worry is having to play Kentucky in the Sweet Sixteen - I am absolutely fine with that. Isn't everyones biggest concern playing kentucky!! I'd think any contender would want to avoid playing kentucky as long as possible. Agreed but we have a 3 in 4 chance of avoiding their bracket. So I'll take those odds and the higher seed. The other #1s are pretty much interchangeable with the #2s anyway. Also check out the 12 line compared to the 11 line currently. It's night and day. We want a 5.
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Mar 8, 2015 7:56:18 GMT -5
We are talking 5 or 6 seed but if we win 2 bet games we have a good shot at a 4 seed and there is even an outside shot at a 3 seed if we win the bet
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Post by sleepy on Mar 8, 2015 8:07:05 GMT -5
If our biggest worry is having to play Kentucky in the Sweet Sixteen - I am absolutely fine with that. Isn't everyones biggest concern playing kentucky!! I'd think any contender would want to avoid playing kentucky as long as possible. We are not a contender.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 8, 2015 8:42:18 GMT -5
We are talking 5 or 6 seed but if we win 2 bet games we have a good shot at a 4 seed and there is even an outside shot at a 3 seed if we win the bet This team has handled being ranked and I think we will be on Monday. Let's get the first win out of the way.
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Post by richfame on Mar 8, 2015 9:52:40 GMT -5
We are talking 5 or 6 seed but if we win 2 bet games we have a good shot at a 4 seed and there is even an outside shot at a 3 seed if we win the bet The 3 or 6 is perfect. I do not want the 5 or 4. There's still a 33.3 % chance we're going to hit kentuckys bracket. We don't want that. I remember when we had to play vegas in like the second round. Even with zo and dikembe we could not win. I do not want that history to repeat. This kentucky team is undefeated and a generational team like unlv was. Just my opinion here.
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Post by emkmd on Mar 8, 2015 10:02:21 GMT -5
We are talking 5 or 6 seed but if we win 2 bet games we have a good shot at a 4 seed and there is even an outside shot at a 3 seed if we win the bet The 3 or 6 is perfect. I do not want the 5 or 4. There's still a 33.3 % chance we're going to hit kentuckys bracket. We don't want that. I remember when we had to play vegas in like the second round. Even with zo and dikembe we could not win. I do not want that history to repeat. This kentucky team is undefeated and a generational team like unlv was. Just my opinion here. If I remember correctly UNLV lost that year to Duke in the final four. If it were not for some silly touch fouls against Zo, we could have beaten UNLV. No team had played them as close as we had to that point. The longer story is that I was at the Big East/ACC challenge game at the Cap Center that year and we beat Duke. Zo got hurt shortly after, our outside shooting was bad, thus the 8 seed. UK is the one team I want no part of, unless it is in the FF.
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Post by richfame on Mar 8, 2015 10:04:22 GMT -5
Isn't everyones biggest concern playing kentucky!! I'd think any contender would want to avoid playing kentucky as long as possible. We are not a contender. Why can't this team make a run? We are in a solid conference Great SOS Great rpi Dominant big man on the right day Dominant lead guard Growing freshman Yes we can lose to anyone but can string 6 wins in a row. Why not us. Was George mason a contender? Was UCONN so great last year? We are a contender.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 8, 2015 10:07:29 GMT -5
Why can't this team make a run? We are in a solid conference Great SOS Great rpi Dominant big man on the right day Dominant lead guard Growing freshman Yes we can lose to anyone but can string 6 wins in a row. Why not us. Was George mason a contender? Was UCONN so great last year? We are a contender. We haven't made it out of the first weekend in 8 years. I haven't seen anything to lead me to believe that will change this year.
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Post by richfame on Mar 8, 2015 10:09:23 GMT -5
The 3 or 6 is perfect. I do not want the 5 or 4. There's still a 33.3 % chance we're going to hit kentuckys bracket. We don't want that. I remember when we had to play vegas in like the second round. Even with zo and dikembe we could not win. I do not want that history to repeat. This kentucky team is undefeated and a generational team like unlv was. Just my opinion here. If I remember correctly UNLV lost that year to Duke in the final four. If it were not for some silly touch fouls against Zo, we could have beaten UNLV. No team had played them as close as we had to that point. The longer story is that I was at the Big East/ACC challenge game at the Cap Center that year and we beat Duke. Zo got hurt shortly after, our outside shooting was bad, thus the 8 seed. UK is the one team I want no part of, unless it is in the FF. Your right. I still think that vegas team was the best one. Didn't the refs totally take Greg Anthony out of that game calling stupid fouls on him. That ruined the game. Your also right about that hoyas/vegas game. I was so proud of them. Was that the year the big east had the 6 foul rule and that hurt us come tourney time?
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Post by richfame on Mar 8, 2015 10:11:11 GMT -5
Why can't this team make a run? We are in a solid conference Great SOS Great rpi Dominant big man on the right day Dominant lead guard Growing freshman Yes we can lose to anyone but can string 6 wins in a row. Why not us. Was George mason a contender? Was UCONN so great last year? We are a contender. We haven't made it out of the first weekend in 8 years. I haven't seen anything to lead me to believe that will change this year. The only thing constant is the coach. I take it you think JT3 cannot win another tourney game?! Players have changed. It could happen.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 8, 2015 10:26:13 GMT -5
We haven't made it out of the first weekend in 8 years. I haven't seen anything to lead me to believe that will change this year. The only thing constant is the coach. I take it you think JT3 cannot win another tourney game?! Players have changed. It could happen. They are the same players that watched FGCU dunk us back to DC. Whether it be because of the universe, III, the basketball Gods, the selection committee, bad luck, the players, or all or none of the above, I will not believe a Georgetown team capable of making it out of the first weekend until it happens. We have two weeks to relive and discuss all of our spectacular tournament memories though, I just can't believe anyone cares who the top seeds in our bracket could be. When was the last time we faced one of those?
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Mar 8, 2015 10:44:08 GMT -5
In my mind, the top 12 teams or so are probably a notch above us this year (with Kentucky two notches above everyone else). But we've already shown we can beat one team in that group (Nova) and we were just a few buckets from beating two others (wisconsin and kansas). So i'm not too worried about who we draw above us outside of kentucky. It's the teams below us that cause me more concern, in the mold of xavier or up-tempo teams that shoot a high percentage from 3. Regardless, this team needs to wash away the stain all of the previous early NCAA exits have left on the program and make at least the Sweet 16. We are talented enough to do that.
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Post by swhoya on Mar 8, 2015 10:44:32 GMT -5
The only thing constant is the coach. I take it you think JT3 cannot win another tourney game?! Players have changed. It could happen. They are the same players that watched FGCU dunk us back to DC. Whether it be because of the universe, III, the basketball Gods, the selection committee, bad luck, the players, or all or none of the above, I will not believe a Georgetown team capable of making it out of the first weekend until it happens. We have two weeks to relive and discuss all of our spectacular tournament memories though, I just can't believe anyone cares who the top seeds in our bracket could be. When was the last time we faced one of those? Half empty, much? Past results aren't an indicator of future results. Period. And the notion that this is just the same team is silly. 4 new freshmen, all of whom have shown they can contribute (although they're certainly lacking in consistency). Josh Smith: wasn't playing at this time last year. Our other players are a year more experienced. If yesterday's game showed anything, it's that Jabril is willing to put us on his shoulders and lead, if need be. This has been one of the most frustrating teams for me to watch. Probably one of my least favorite of the III era, just BC of their inconsistency. So I'm not one that just irrationally believes in this team. But to say nothing has changed is just being obtuse.
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 8, 2015 10:46:07 GMT -5
Jerry Palm has us as 4 today. I think that it is right, but we'll probably have to make it to the BET finals to stay there.
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Post by richfame on Mar 8, 2015 11:07:10 GMT -5
Jerry Palm has us as 4 today. I think that it is right, but we'll probably have to make it to the BET finals to stay there. That could be a problem.
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Post by GUJook97 on Mar 8, 2015 11:09:04 GMT -5
I'm in the camp of not caring at all about potential sweet 16 opponents. If a 4/5 helps us win two games, that's a good result.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 8, 2015 11:10:31 GMT -5
I think 6 minus BET wins is our seeding equation.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 8, 2015 11:10:42 GMT -5
They are the same players that watched FGCU dunk us back to DC. Whether it be because of the universe, III, the basketball Gods, the selection committee, bad luck, the players, or all or none of the above, I will not believe a Georgetown team capable of making it out of the first weekend until it happens. We have two weeks to relive and discuss all of our spectacular tournament memories though, I just can't believe anyone cares who the top seeds in our bracket could be. When was the last time we faced one of those? Half empty, much? Past results aren't an indicator of future results. Period. And the notion that this is just the same team is silly. 4 new freshmen, all of whom have shown they can contribute (although they're certainly lacking in consistency). Josh Smith: wasn't playing at this time last year. Our other players are a year more experienced. If yesterday's game showed anything, it's that Jabril is willing to put us on his shoulders and lead, if need be. This has been one of the most frustrating teams for me to watch. Probably one of my least favorite of the III era, just BC of their inconsistency. So I'm not one that just irrationally believes in this team. But to say nothing has changed is just being obtuse. Things changed from 2008 to 2010... but the results didn't change. Things changed from 2010 to 2011... but the results didn't change. Things changed from 2011 to 2012... but the results didn't change. Things changed from 2012 to 2013.... but the results didn't change. I don't know what the problem is but I will not believe I will ever watch a Georgetown team in the second weekend until they actually get there. Also, I never said the team didn't change, I said they were the same players. Jabril, Bowen, Hopkins, DSR, even Smith was on the bench. I'm not sure why it's so shocking that a Georgetown fan wouldn't be optimistic about the teams tournament prospects.
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Post by bicentennial on Mar 8, 2015 11:12:09 GMT -5
I think of myself as a realist. Statistically the last 6 times we have played in the NCAA, we have performed well below the level that statistical metrics would suggest we should and our oponents have performed significantly better. Some years it has been the bad luck of a hot team, other times it has been poor shooting or too few scoring options. Arizona had a similar run of inconsistency in the tournament but now is pretty consistently back among the top teams. I believe this year there is data supporting our being a top 25 team. On our best nights we have beaten a top 4 team at home and lost to two top 10 teams by small change. We have consistently beaten RPI 40+(also sagarin and pomeroy)teams this season and with the exception of the Xavier games we have been close in those few losses to teams between 10 and 40 and have a significant number of wins against 10-40 RPI teams. So yes, I think we could be a contender to the round of 16 and with luck further. Yes with bad luck we could be done after 1 game but it would be generational bad luck!
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