dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on Feb 11, 2015 9:10:40 GMT -5
I wouldn't. Trey will be miles ahead next year. Defense should be a LOT better next year for GU overall.
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rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Feb 11, 2015 9:10:51 GMT -5
Yeah, the kid definitely looks like a natural out there. He has good IQ and fundamentals. The more he fills out the more of a threat he will become
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miracles87
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Post by miracles87 on Feb 11, 2015 9:38:48 GMT -5
Don't know how similar their games will end up being, and obviously, Trey isn't the most heralded Freshman in the country, like his Dad was, but he moves a lot like Dad out there, and I got a thrill seeing that. Not hard to imagine him getting real minutes next year, gonna need these young forwards in waves to replace our graduates.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Feb 11, 2015 9:41:58 GMT -5
Whether he had gotten it or not. I think once he gets some leg strength the sky is the limit for him. I'm sure his dad familiarized him with the Exorcist steps years ago. I can say that carrying cases of beer up from Dixie liquor a few times a week is good for the legs. I don't recommend, however, carrying a keg up those bad boys.
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Post by lancasterhoyafan on Feb 11, 2015 9:45:57 GMT -5
Trey seems like he's starting to fill out and seems to have great instincts. At one point I looked at the screen and he really did resemble Alonzo. Not by stature, yet...but he's losing his baby face quickly. His instincts are great and that pass to Cameron was on point. I love his body language on the bench to. He's a great fit for the program.
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Post by CaliHoya on Feb 11, 2015 15:34:12 GMT -5
Granted it was in garbage time, but Trey had two great possessions with a sweet assist to Cameron and a nice block of a Seton Hall layup. IMO, he should be getting Hayes' minutes when Hop and Josh are in foul trouble.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Feb 11, 2015 15:44:02 GMT -5
A bigger Mourning, White, & Copeland coupled with Agau, Derrickson & Govan makes me smile a bit. We are going to be very flexible along the front court with all guys being able to shoot it.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 11, 2015 16:17:31 GMT -5
A bigger Mourning, White, & Copeland coupled with Agau, Derrickson & Govan makes me smile a bit. We are going to be very flexible along the front court with all guys being able to shoot it. Exactly. Add in LJ, DSR and Tree and we might just have something nice.
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Post by beenaround on Feb 11, 2015 17:04:42 GMT -5
Let's be honest....we are all wearing our Hoya tinted glasses when it comes to Trey and his two minutes in garbage time. That being said...must confess I was very pleasantly pleased with the block and on the money pass. However, I do not see the comparison to his dad, some ar emaking. Obviously, noone is implying he is a future NBA HOFer in terms talent. But I believe his game is much more that of a skilled big man...more like a Euro, than a future fire breathing, take no prisoners, warrior?
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Post by tashoya on Feb 11, 2015 17:11:35 GMT -5
Let's be honest....we are all wearing our Hoya tinted glasses when it comes to Trey and his two minutes in garbage time. That being said...must confess I was very pleasantly pleased with the block and on the money pass. However, I do not see the comparison to his dad, some ar emaking. Obviously, noone is implying he is a future NBA HOFer in terms talent. But I believe his game is much more that of a skilled big man...more like a Euro, than a future fire breathing, take no prisoners, warrior? I'm as big a homer as there is in all likelihood and, for me, I don't see Trey as anything like his dad as a player in terms of style. A guy like Alonzo in college comes around very infrequently. Trey is much more of a stretch 4 and doesn't have the frame for the muscle mass that Alonzo put on. Trey is more slight but he does move quite a bit like his dad. I think that's part of what was so much fun to see about him. He does have that mobility and quickness to get up that his dad had and, apparently, has solid timing too. If he can rebound a bit and use the jumper that he already has (like you said, there's some Euro to him) plus add some shot-blocking and passing that he seems to be pretty comfortable with, at the least, he can hopefully contribute meaningful minutes sooner than later.
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rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Feb 11, 2015 17:28:32 GMT -5
Let's be honest....we are all wearing our Hoya tinted glasses when it comes to Trey and his two minutes in garbage time. That being said...must confess I was very pleasantly pleased with the block and on the money pass. However, I do not see the comparison to his dad, some ar emaking. Obviously, noone is implying he is a future NBA HOFer in terms talent. But I believe his game is much more that of a skilled big man...more like a Euro, than a future fire breathing, take no prisoners, warrior? Maybe you just don't know what to look for? Or you don't believe in the concept of relativity?
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Feb 11, 2015 18:43:06 GMT -5
Granted it was in garbage time, but Trey had two great possessions with a sweet assist to Cameron and a nice block of a Seton Hall layup. IMO, he should be getting Hayes' minutes when Hop and Josh are in foul trouble. Man that block was all Alonzo Mourning! If he can do that for us next year, he should get significant minutes.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Feb 11, 2015 18:44:04 GMT -5
Let's be honest....we are all wearing our Hoya tinted glasses when it comes to Trey and his two minutes in garbage time. That being said...must confess I was very pleasantly pleased with the block and on the money pass. However, I do not see the comparison to his dad, some ar emaking. Obviously, noone is implying he is a future NBA HOFer in terms talent. But I believe his game is much more that of a skilled big man...more like a Euro, than a future fire breathing, take no prisoners, warrior? Maybe you just don't know what to look for? Or you don't believe in the concept of relativity? Give him time my man, give him time.
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dense
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Post by dense on Feb 11, 2015 22:21:30 GMT -5
From seeing him at Kenner and last night he has alot of talent just never played at this level before. He is decently strong upper body wise. He is just so light in his core he gets pushed around in the post easily.
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Post by professorhoya on Feb 11, 2015 23:36:24 GMT -5
Don't know how similar their games will end up being, and obviously, Trey isn't the most heralded Freshman in the country, like his Dad was, but he moves a lot like Dad out there, and I got a thrill seeing that. Not hard to imagine him getting real minutes next year, gonna need these young forwards in waves to replace our graduates. He has the same shotblocking technique as his dad, the same catch the ball in the post and then use the ball as a weapon with arm extended to clear space. Obviously he isn't as athletic as Alonzo and probably lacks Alonzo's wingspan but then very few can really match Alonzo physically. Trey seems really smart, picking up the back door and Princeton principles really quickly.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 12, 2015 0:59:37 GMT -5
Not having seen him, I didn't know why Trey languished on the bench; after all he is Zo's son. Comments above have been helpful in understanding.
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Post by wahoohoya on Feb 12, 2015 1:18:59 GMT -5
I agree with TC. In most cases, the redshirt is a bad idea, based on wishful thinking about a player's development curve. There's a reason that non-medical redshirts are almost unheard of among top tier basketball schools. Unlike in football where scholarships are so plentiful, we only have 13. Tying one up based on a projection is risky because you don't know who the player you'll need to turn down in a few years is because you don't have a spot. If we redshirt Trey, I'm fine with it. I trust the staff to make that evaluation. But I don't think redshirting should become a regular practice the way some on this board do. While most probably don't think of them as a "top tier basketball school", UVA has been using redshirting to get stronger, more experienced guys on the court. Of their 13 players currently on scholarship, 5 have taken (or are currently taking) a redshirt year. Granted, one of those was a legit medical redshirt and two others were incoming transfers, but Bennett has also redshirted one freshman in each of the past two seasons (one of which was a top 75 recruit and the other a promising but somewhat raw big) to space out his recruiting classes and not burn a year of eligibility for guys who simply weren't going to see a lot of minutes as freshmen but have the potential to become solid contributors in the future. It's his model - he values experience in his system, and redshirting is a tool he uses to manage his roster. And with decent depth, it makes sense. Especially since a lot of kids simply aren't ready to contribute meaningful minutes as freshmen. Hard to really play more than 9 or 10 players so why not redshirt a player every now and then to give them more time to develop? Can't do it too often but one or two at any given time is manageable with 13 scholarships. Frankly, I don't understand why you don't see this more often.
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seaweed
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Post by seaweed on Feb 12, 2015 7:15:30 GMT -5
So Tuesday was his fifth game, well below the 30% threshold still.
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Post by michaeldm9 on Feb 12, 2015 9:09:23 GMT -5
If he can, I think he should redshirt. GTown isn't Kentucky. Their not bring in the top 5 recruits every year and need the room.
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Post by njhoya78 on Feb 12, 2015 12:10:58 GMT -5
Mourning is no longer eligible for a redshirt. Although he has played in under thirty (30%) percent of the GU games, he has now played in a game after the midway point of the season, so this is a moot point.
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