RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on Apr 5, 2005 17:57:25 GMT -5
This is great, great news, and its about time.
We're finally going to have a board in place who is committed to maximizing the resources at Hoya Blue's disposal to get sports spirit up.
007 has this thing locked up. I will get everyone I know to come out and vote for him if I necessary. He WILL be running the show, and that is very good news.
As I told him earlier, with him in control, I'm definitly going to get more involved next year, because there will definitly be a lot more work put into the club overall. I would like to get some official position, but as a rising sophomore I am willing to yield to some of the older diehards, at least for this year. If a position is there for me I'd love to have it, but basically what Im saying is that Im committed to the "New Hoya Blue" whether I have a position or not.
Is there already a Constitution in place thatll need to be amended, or are we starting from scratch? In High School I chaired the "Constitution Committee" of our student government, so I have a modicum of experience in the field (though Im sure there are some Government majors around who know a lot more about it than I do). What I learned though is its a lot easier to work off of a previous skeleton than it is to start from square 1, having to codify every nitty-gritty detail.
As for other topics besides the elections..... I think the best way to organize would be something similar to what FLHoya proposed, which would involve respresentatives who would be in charge of flyering, getting the word out via word of mouth, and perhaps selling tickets, to a particular area (say, Harbin 5th floor, something like that). I dont know if it's best to insert this in the Constitution, or just set it up in the fall...
As for supporting other sports.... Sure, Hoya Blue should make a concerted effort to get people out to every single sports game played by one of our squads... Nonethless, I still think we're kidding ourselves if we don't devote 90% of our time, energy, and resources to men's basketball. Thats the sport that brings the school the most money, its the sport most people care about when they come to Georgetown (99% of us included) and its the sport with the most potential for Hoya Blue to increase spirit.
Decreasing emphasis on drinking will come with new leadership. There still may be a place for "parties" in the Hoya Blue system, in some way shape or form, but obviously that should be secondary.
There are a few other random ideas tossed around in the thread thats linked in my signature; also in there is a link (posted by jersey) to some essays written by FLHoya that give a lot of ideas on how to organize.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Apr 5, 2005 18:24:25 GMT -5
Why FLHOYA's column is not already mandatory reading in HB, I will never know. We need as many students who read this board to get involved next year in HB. With some exceptions, these folks tend to be the most informed in terms of GU sports and strategies by which to get butts in seats (or preferably many butts out of seats, jumping up and down). The key, as I see it, is to get people who (i) are informed/knowledgeable, (ii) are enthusiastic, and (iii) have good ideas. (Or, for the Kurt Angle fans of days of yore, the 3 I's (Intensity, Integrity, Intelligence).
HB won't get very far if the board members have only 2 of those three characteristics. There has to be a means by which to translate enthusiasm into practice, and that begins with ideas.
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hoya01
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Post by hoya01 on Apr 5, 2005 23:13:15 GMT -5
007 and others - please (1) get the hoyablue website up and running againg and (2) sell merchandise especially next year's "We are Georgetown" tshirts. The alumni outside of the DC area will be very appreciative and it is an easy way to raise money.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Apr 5, 2005 23:16:32 GMT -5
007 and others - please (1) get the hoyablue website up and running againg and (2) sell merchandise especially next year's "We are Georgetown" tshirts. The alumni outside of the DC area will be very appreciative and it is an easy way to raise money. (1) I couldn't agree more... (2) Hit me with a PM that contains an e-mail address at which you would like to be contacted. [This goes for anyone] I have collected roughly 30 addresses already and will use the e-mail list to inform folks about how to obtain a shirt.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 6, 2005 1:57:19 GMT -5
(1) I couldn't agree more... (2) Hit me with a PM that contains an e-mail address at which you would like to be contacted. [This goes for anyone] I have collected roughly 30 addresses already and will use the e-mail list to inform folks about how to obtain a shirt. Jersey, you should go to Paypal next year. And sell them through a link on the site. You'll get a lot more purchases once it is easier and more established (emailing through a message board seems sketchy to many folk though we all trust you).
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Apr 6, 2005 8:39:22 GMT -5
This is a great positive step for Georgetown student support. I just wish that I could be at GU for the meeting ...
My suggestions for the constitution would include the following:
1) Not writing it immediately - taking in opinions and offering a few drafts of the constitution publically at first and then moving on concensus from there
2) Surveying other constitutions from applicable student groups that have a good reputation around the country - the Illisnois Orange Crush come to mind.
3) Creation of an executive board with regularized meetings, processes for elections, university oversight attributed to a specific university employee, processes for removal and replacement of officers.
4) The constitution should commit Hoya Blue to promoting all of Georgetown athletics in the context of the overall Georgetown mission statement and values of the University.
4a) To this end Hoya Blue should commit itself to making all of its official functions alcohol free.
5) The constitution should create specific positions on the executive board with specific descriptions of their responsibilities. These positions should include: Chair, Vice Chair, University Relations Chair, Alumni Relations Chair, Web-master, Programming Chair, and 2 representatives from each class. Giving the executive board 15 persons who can cast one vote each for proposals.
6) Hoya Blue should also committ itself to holding regular (at least bi-weekly) meetings. And integrating its membership into its decision making process.
7) Hoya Blue should commit itself to obeying the rules and bi-laws necessary to receive funding from SAC, GUSA, the Georgetown Funding Board, Alumni Organizations (classes and the Hoya Hoop Club), and individual alumni.
That's my 2 cents. Thought I'd throw them in from the former USSR because I am very excited by this development.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Apr 6, 2005 9:11:49 GMT -5
I don't necessarily think that an "anti-alcohol" posture is necessarily the best move for Hoya Blue (I also don't think 4a necessarily follows from #4), though I might advocate for a "judicious use of alcohol" strategy.
In other words, Hoyapalooza is, in and of itself a good and fun event -- but that it has never reached it's potential to be a showcase for G'town athletics, which was the original intent (or at least the original excuse) to have the event.
It wouldn't take much effort at all to shift the focus of the event, and to really use it, not only as a chance to let people know about upcoming games, but as a kickoff for the entire fall sports season, and getting the word out about why it's fun to get out to GU sporting events.
Just my two cents...
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Post by StPetersburgHoya (Inactive) on Apr 6, 2005 9:20:38 GMT -5
Sorry I should clariffy that - there should be a policy aimed at making Hoya Blue an organization that does not pressure its members to use alcohol or encourage the abuse of alcohol. I was thinking about the kegs that have been brought on road trips in the past when I wrote that line.
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tgo
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Post by tgo on Apr 6, 2005 10:05:07 GMT -5
why shouldnt you have kegs on road trips?
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TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Apr 6, 2005 10:05:50 GMT -5
If alcohol is used as a tool to promote the sports teams, then that's great. Of course, HB has let alcohol become the focus. The truth is people like drinking at games/being drunk at games. That's fine, and it's something HB can use. People like roadtrips partly b/c of the drunken bus rides, for example. However, if that's the only reason they're going on the road trips, HB has let alcohol become the focus, instead of the game. Same with pre-game parties.
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YB
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Post by YB on Apr 6, 2005 11:41:43 GMT -5
This is a good thing for HB and for GU basketball. This year was a big step forward for HB and for student spirit; I think both can only be enhanced by open elections and a constitution.
As fans and supporters, we should do our part to make sure that we push the program forward in every legal way. There's enough excitement out there to do it, and it is having a profound effect, I think.
This was one of the things 3 touched on, one of the only real statements he made to the Hoya.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Apr 6, 2005 11:46:46 GMT -5
This is a good thing for HB and for GU basketball. This year was a big step forward for HB and for student spirit; I think both can only be enhanced by open elections and a constitution. I see these recent changes as the only step forward for HB this season. Attendance for road trips was limited and caused the cancellation of one trip. While game attendance improved, I think that had more to do with the quality of our play than anything else.
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YB
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Post by YB on Apr 6, 2005 11:47:52 GMT -5
I do think though that having open elections is the best way to harness the new student support.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Apr 6, 2005 11:51:21 GMT -5
I do think though that having open elections is the best way to harness the new student support. Absolutely. No argument from me on that one. I think the positions of power should be awarded on the basis of an election with maybe some opportunities for appointments based on a competitive application process.
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FLHoya
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Post by FLHoya on Apr 7, 2005 21:23:35 GMT -5
I don't usually go in for the BUMPing of threads, but I figured this lil' bugger should get a chance. This meeting is on Tuesday, so hopefully the thread has some more burn left in it, or at least a few extra students learn about the meeting this way.
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RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on Apr 7, 2005 22:58:02 GMT -5
Well now that its bumped, ill take this chance to ask a few questions. I probably could've asked this to any number of you personally, but I figure maybe its best to post them in case any other student members or lurkers have the same questions.
1. Where exactly IS the meeting? I think GuHoyas.com said something about it being upstairs at McDonough... however my knowledge of McDonough is limited to walking in the front doors and sitting down on the bleachers. Anyone know where we're headed, or should I just head down and hope to find a crowd to follow?
2. This may seem like a bit of a dumb question, but how exactly will I (and the friends I bring) know who to vote for, in the event that there are a number of positions to be voted on? I dont really know anyone from here by face (facebook only helps a little). Im starting to pick up on the real names of a few of the more prominent figures (007 et. al), but if it does turn out that we'll vote for numerous positions (rather than just a chair to make appointments), how will I know who's who? Most likely I'll just be able to pick up on it based on who sits with who, but just in case, is there any way to make sure theres no confusion based on this?
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 7, 2005 23:04:41 GMT -5
his may seem like a bit of a dumb question, but how exactly will I (and the friends I bring) know who to vote for,
...and political parties were born.
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Post by GUHoya07 on Apr 7, 2005 23:14:26 GMT -5
1. The meeting is in Team Room A, which is in fact upstairs in McDonough. If you enter the main front entrance you proceed to go straight into the Trophy Lobby Area. From there you turn left down that hallway there (the hallway opposite the bathroom hallway) and you keep going straight until you see a staircase on your right. Head up that staircase and there will be 3 doors. The one to your right leads inside McDonough to that balcony area behind the bleachers, the one to your left is a clear glass door that enters into the Sports Information Office (I think) and the door straight ahead should be Team Room A. I may have made a few mistakes in my description but this should be enough to get you there.
2. We can discuss this over email, I can send you the names of the people who have expressed an interest in the board so that you know them by name.
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Apr 8, 2005 0:07:34 GMT -5
If you would like to discuss election strategy with me, please PM me.
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Joe Hoya
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Post by Joe Hoya on Apr 8, 2005 0:27:44 GMT -5
If you would like to discuss election strategy with me, please PM me. People are trying to railroad an election for a school spirit group. Only at Georgetown.
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