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Post by HoyasAreHungry on May 13, 2014 14:16:58 GMT -5
I agree. Would love him in the fold still. This is what elite programs do. Bring in guys and they earn their spots on the court. No more will this scare away so and so.
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Post by chep3 on May 13, 2014 14:50:44 GMT -5
I think this probably takes us out of the running for Egbunu. We need to focus on guards, unless Rabb wants to come on down. Egbunu, Govan, and Dickerson will be graduating in the same class, and I'm not sure it's great balance to have our three true bigs in the same class. Getting a '16 center would seem necessary, more necessary than a third '15 big (given Egbunu sitting a year out). I think Egbunu would graduate a year ahead of Dickerson, as he'd have 3 years of eligibility remaining starting with the 15-16 year as he'd be a sophomore, while Govan and Dickerson would have 4 as true freshman You're right. Totally mixed up my years.
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Post by Talos on May 13, 2014 16:11:47 GMT -5
I would still take Egbunu in heartbeat, and worry about scholly numbers later. I think Govan and Dickerson are similar, while Egbunu is a high level athlete with great leaping ability. Watching his games/videos, Egbunu could turn into a beast. Even if we take Egbunu, I think we still have two spots for guards.
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Post by prhoya on May 13, 2014 16:44:43 GMT -5
I think this probably takes us out of the running for Egbunu. We need to focus on guards, unless Rabb wants to come on down. Egbunu, Govan, and Dickerson will be graduating in the same class, and I'm not sure it's great balance to have our three true bigs in the same class. Getting a '16 center would seem necessary, more necessary than a third '15 big (given Egbunu sitting a year out). Class balance is not a problem with this type of talent. It works itself out with early departures and other unforeseen circumstances. For example, if Rabb comes in, he probably leaves after 1 yr. With the shape of our roster in '15-'16, there's no more 2vs5 defense/ofense. Players like Copeland and White will thrive vs. the defenses they will see. So, IMO Copeland is probably gone after the second year, but definitely after the 3rd. The mission should be to keep feeding the roster with talent and the rest takes care of itself.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 13, 2014 17:23:25 GMT -5
I also wonder if there would be any hurt feelings if we took another big at this point since Govan seemed to be under the impression that we only had 1 scholarship for a big left. It wouldn't look good to tell a recruit that he better commit because we only have one more spot for a big left and if you don't take it someone else will and then to turn around and take another one after that. Remember these guys are still only verbals and can't sign till November. If JT3 really told him that I wouldn't expect him to take any other bigs outside of Rabb.
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Post by gujake on May 13, 2014 17:31:11 GMT -5
Yeah, obviously we don't know, but based on the quotes from Govan's coach, I definitely think it's possible that the staff suggested to both that there would only be one spot available between them after Dickerson's commitment.
I have no idea if that's actually what happened or if Govan's coach just inferred that based on the roster, but I do think it's possible given Govan's interest and our need to lock down a center in this class.
I'm sure coaches are careful about how they word stuff like that, but depending on what was said, it might not be fair to take Egbunu now anyway.
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Post by Talos on May 13, 2014 17:50:44 GMT -5
Yeah, obviously we don't know, but based on the quotes from Govan's coach, I definitely think it's possible that the staff suggested to both that there would only be one spot available between them after Dickerson's commitment. I have no idea if that's actually what happened or if Govan's coach just inferred that based on the roster, but I do think it's possible given Govan's interest and our need to lock down a center in this class. I'm sure coaches are careful about how they word stuff like that, but depending on what was said, it might not be fair to take Egbunu now anyway. Good points. But Egbunu is a different class than Govan, so maybe that "one spot" was technically referring to 2015 kids. Egbunu would be in the same class (so to speak) as 2014 kids.
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Post by SirSaxa on May 13, 2014 18:12:05 GMT -5
Good points. But Egbunu is a different class than Govan, so maybe that "one spot" was technically referring to 2015 kids. Egbunu would be in the same class (so to speak) as 2014 kids. From an academic POV, Egbunu would be in the 2017 class From an athletic eligbility POV, Egbunu will be a redshirt (or transfer) - class of 2018. This year's incoming freshmen will be in the 2018 class. Jessie Govan will enter next year (2015) and will be class of 2019
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Post by IDenj on May 13, 2014 18:22:39 GMT -5
My guess is the Egbunu ship has sailed. Had he wanted to be a Hoya he had his chance to verbal. Maybe he still will but if I am Govan I probably wouldn't be too happy about it.
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Post by gujake on May 13, 2014 19:19:11 GMT -5
Good points. But Egbunu is a different class than Govan, so maybe that "one spot" was technically referring to 2015 kids. Egbunu would be in the same class (so to speak) as 2014 kids. True, and you could be right, but we need a center for 2015 and that's the year both would become eligible. So while they wouldn't be in the same class as far as when their eligibility ends, they would be for when it begins at GU. Not sure how the staff would look at it.
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Post by deacon on May 15, 2014 9:56:38 GMT -5
Headed to Florida.
Jeff Goodman @goodmanespn
Florida has landed South Florida transfer John Egbunu, source told ESPN.
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Post by RBHoya on May 15, 2014 10:01:54 GMT -5
Not a shock after the Govan commitment and the "one spot for a big man" chatter. I think Egbunu will do really well at Florida, seems like a good match.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 15, 2014 10:02:06 GMT -5
Perhaps BuzzBoy is starting to learn the painful reality of how difficult it will be to lure kids to Blacksburg
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Post by TC on May 15, 2014 10:16:02 GMT -5
I'm with everyone else on this one - there was one spot for Egbunu or for Govan. If Egbunu were a sophomore and somehow immediately eligible, it would be different, but he's not - he would have to sit a year, and then assuming that Mourning were on scholarship, there would be only one scholarship available for a guard and not much ballhandling depth in 2015-2016 with Campbell and possibly Peak as the only two primary ballhandlers on the roster.
Unless one of the overall top 10 decides to commit to GU, the 2014/2015 and 2015/2016 scholarships should be going to guards.
That said, I still wish we had nailed down Chukwu though.
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Post by TBird41 on May 15, 2014 10:20:13 GMT -5
I'm with everyone else on this one - there was one spot for Egbunu or for Govan. If Egbunu were a sophomore and somehow immediately eligible, it would be different, but he's not - he would have to sit a year, and then assuming that Mourning were on scholarship, there would be only one scholarship available for a guard and not much ballhandling depth in 2015-2016 with Campbell and possibly Peak as the only two primary ballhandlers on the roster. Unless one of the overall top 10 decides to commit to GU, the 2014/2015 and 2015/2016 scholarships should be going to guards. That said, I still wish we had nailed down Chukwu though. Presumably DSR will also still be around in 2015/16, but I get your point.
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Post by hoyabinx on May 15, 2014 10:25:19 GMT -5
I'm with everyone else on this one - there was one spot for Egbunu or for Govan. If Egbunu were a sophomore and somehow immediately eligible, it would be different, but he's not - he would have to sit a year, and then assuming that Mourning were on scholarship, there would be only one scholarship available for a guard and not much ballhandling depth in 2015-2016 with Campbell and possibly Peak as the only two primary ballhandlers on the roster. Unless one of the overall top 10 decides to commit to GU, the 2014/2015 and 2015/2016 scholarships should be going to guards. That said, I still wish we had nailed down Chukwu though. Presumably DSR will also still be around in 2015/16, but I get your point. We will have 3 guards in 15-16, and one of those guards is listed as a small forward/shoot guard combo by many. That makes me really nervous. One injury and Paul White is our backup shooting guard. I slightly preferred Egbunu over Govan, but that is only because Egbunu would get a year to practice with the team before suiting up. Once Govan committed, we simply had no space for another center or forward. We are absolutely stacked at those positions now in terms of talent and depth. We are stacked at guard with talent, but not depth.
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Post by hoyainspirit on May 15, 2014 10:41:08 GMT -5
Wait. I thought Egbunu was a Virgina Tech lock. Didn't Buzz have this all orchestrated?
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Post by TC on May 15, 2014 10:43:15 GMT -5
Presumably DSR will also still be around in 2015/16, but I get your point. My bad, missed DSR, but I agree with hoyabinx, you need at least one more guard to add to DSR / Campbell / Peak. The only exception I see is if a top-10 overall / one-and-done type decides to commit. If you can add that sort of talent for a year, you do it even if it means a David Allen or Riyan Williams sees some backup minutes.
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Post by TC on May 15, 2014 10:44:00 GMT -5
Wait. I thought Egbunu was a Virgina Tech lock. Didn't Buzz have this all orchestrated? Yeah, what happened to the bag man with all the cash, and the backroom where he was going to lock Egbunu up in until he signed with Virginia Tech?
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Post by MCIGuy on May 15, 2014 10:47:34 GMT -5
Not a bad outcome at all. We get a borderline five-star recruit in Govan, meanwhile Egbunu ends up not just bypassing VTech but the ACC in general (and ends up picking a program and coach whom most of us can respect).
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