wnyhoya
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Post by wnyhoya on Jan 18, 2016 15:30:12 GMT -5
If this kid was 6'2" IMO he'd be pushing 5 star status. At the least a solid 4 star top 100 kid. Can't teach a lot of what he does. I'm on board!!!
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Jan 18, 2016 15:57:54 GMT -5
I understand the need for a big man with Hayes leaving, Marcus not being a true 5 but who may be able to fill in, and the uncertainty surrounding Agau. If Thompson, or for that matter, any spring signee, decides to come, does that mean we only have one available scholarship for '17? Am I reading the table correctly? If so, do we prefer Lykes or Jackson? Some have labeled Jackson our most important '17 recruit. Jackson, Pugh, Simms, Lykes. We seem to be on a lot of '17 kids. I believe we have two scholarships left for 2017. Looking at the roster going forward I feel the same way you do as far as a replacement for Hayes. IMO we would benefit greatly from another 7 footer or at a minimum a shot-blocker. I would hope that Trey could step up his game and play in the shadows of his father at the 5. I cant' see all of these kids sitting on the bench or reclassifying in order to wear the Blue and Grey but for right now Lykes, Pugh and or Simms are a must. With Agau, Trey, and Derrickson playing the 4/5 position and White playing the 4/3 with Copeland we're pretty deep for the next few years.
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jan 18, 2016 16:31:29 GMT -5
I understand the need for a big man with Hayes leaving, Marcus not being a true 5 but who may be able to fill in, and the uncertainty surrounding Agau. If Thompson, or for that matter, any spring signee, decides to come, does that mean we only have one available scholarship for '17? Am I reading the table correctly? If so, do we prefer Lykes or Jackson? Some have labeled Jackson our most important '17 recruit. Jackson, Pugh, Simms, Lykes. We seem to be on a lot of '17 kids. I believe we have two scholarships left for 2017. Looking at the roster going forward I feel the same way you do as far as a replacement for Hayes. IMO we would benefit greatly from another 7 footer or at a minimum a shot-blocker. I would hope that Trey could step up his game and play in the shadows of his father at the 5. I cant' see all of these kids sitting on the bench or reclassifying in order to wear the Blue and Grey but for right now Lykes, Pugh and or Simms are a must. With Agau, Trey, and Derrickson playing the 4/5 position and White playing the 4/3 with Copeland we're pretty deep for the next few years. Teddy, we do have 2 scholarships available for class of '17 seniors, who would join the Hoyas for the 2017-18 season. But unless I don't quite get the table, it's the same two we have now. If we sign someone this spring, that only leaves 1 for class of '17 seniors. If there's only one, do we prefer Lykes, Jackson, or someone else? I know there is no board consensus on whom we should take if we have a choice, but is Lykes favored over everyone else if there's only one available? Do we have enough confidence in a Govan-Morning-Agau rotation to hold that scholarship for a 17 kid and not sign someone like Thompson even if he wants to come? I could just be reading the table incorrectly, but I don't believe I am.
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Post by SaxaCD on Jan 18, 2016 20:09:34 GMT -5
Ranch is on the coalition! I don't think perimeter defense is a problem. If he can keep a hand in the face of the shooter in college, as he has shown in high school, it will be much better than our present defensive strategy and the Lubick fly-bys. As to the passing inside, I think we'll see Govan get stronger with the hands as he matures (and with practice time with Lykes). Govan should be on the coalition. With a player like Lykes, every teammate neeeds to be on their tip-toes ready for anything, unlike thiis year were you can have your complete foot on the floor. This team needs an enema!!! Watching Govan, his issues seem to be more about trying to make the "next" move too quickly, before the ball is secure. I don't think he has stone hands, he just is rushing a lot of things right now. I can't help but think his improvement would be tremendous with a quick PG driving and dishing.
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Jan 19, 2016 1:13:01 GMT -5
I'M ALL IN FOR CHRIS LYKES!!!
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Jan 19, 2016 6:39:34 GMT -5
I believe we have two scholarships left for 2017. Looking at the roster going forward I feel the same way you do as far as a replacement for Hayes. IMO we would benefit greatly from another 7 footer or at a minimum a shot-blocker. I would hope that Trey could step up his game and play in the shadows of his father at the 5. I cant' see all of these kids sitting on the bench or reclassifying in order to wear the Blue and Grey but for right now Lykes, Pugh and or Simms are a must. With Agau, Trey, and Derrickson playing the 4/5 position and White playing the 4/3 with Copeland we're pretty deep for the next few years. Teddy, we do have 2 scholarships available for class of '17 seniors, who would join the Hoyas for the 2017-18 season. But unless I don't quite get the table, it's the same two we have now. If we sign someone this spring, that only leaves 1 for class of '17 seniors. If there's only one, do we prefer Lykes, Jackson, or someone else? I know there is no board consensus on whom we should take if we have a choice, but is Lykes favored over everyone else if there's only one available? Do we have enough confidence in a Govan-Morning-Agau rotation to hold that scholarship for a 17 kid and not sign someone like Thompson even if he wants to come? I could just be reading the table incorrectly, but I don't believe I am. I dont think the staff have offered a scholarship to Taurean Thompson at this point.
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Post by rockhoya on Jan 19, 2016 10:07:13 GMT -5
Ranch is on the coalition! I don't think perimeter defense is a problem. If he can keep a hand in the face of the shooter in college, as he has shown in high school, it will be much better than our present defensive strategy and the Lubick fly-bys. As to the passing inside, I think we'll see Govan get stronger with the hands as he matures (and with practice time with Lykes). Govan should be on the coalition. With a player like Lykes, every teammate neeeds to be on their tip-toes ready for anything, unlike thiis year were you can have your complete foot on the floor. This team needs an enema!!! Watching Govan, his issues seem to be more about trying to make the "next" move too quickly, before the ball is secure. I don't think he has stone hands, he just is rushing a lot of things right now. I can't help but think his improvement would be tremendous with a quick PG driving and dishing. This. He just moves without bringing the ball with him. One thing I noticed is he has the body of a 17 year old still. Once his muscle continues to develop and his body fills out his movements will be that much more fluid and concise. The kid is going to be special.
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lucky
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Post by lucky on Jan 19, 2016 10:13:59 GMT -5
Is there any gauge of the interest Chris may have in Georgetown? We know by the growing numbers in the coalition that fan based interest is strong with him.
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 19, 2016 10:57:48 GMT -5
Is there any gauge of the interest Chris may have in Georgetown? We know by the growing numbers in the coalition that fan based interest is strong with him. Very good question Lucky.. I'd like to know myself.. It goes without saying that how a prospect feels about the school is more important than anything..
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Post by iheartdurenbros on Jan 19, 2016 11:03:08 GMT -5
Long time lurker. Just found my voice to say that I firmly stand with this coalition.
I think we have a very good chance of landing him: JTIII went to Gonzaga and has a good relationship with the program. I like that III is pitching Lykes as a program-changing recruit (which it would be). Indicates to me that JTIII is going to stay on it. And, it would be a program-changer. This type of point guard is exactly what we need.
Twitter is never an absolute indicator of anything, but Lykes seems to really love the possibility of playing for the Hoyas. He announced his offer from the Hoyas on Twitter -- the only one of his offers that received such recognition. That includes one from Miami.
And he seems to love the recognition from the coalition, as he retweets our stuff. I think he's excited. We'll see how he reacts as other offers come in, and ideally he commits before those offers come in. But I would say that his interest in the Hoyas is strong.
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Post by vv83 on Jan 19, 2016 11:16:56 GMT -5
The idea of Lykes running the point for the Hoyas really is exciting. After watching quick, tough guards kill us so often over the last decade, it would be so satisfying to be the team with the guy that nobody else can defend. JTIII knows that the program needs to evolve as the game changes, and Lykes could well be the guy that moves us forward in both our style and quality of play. We would also benefit tremendously from his leadership. Our best players have often been pretty low key personalities. Sometimes it just takes one strong leader in the mix to change the entire emotional dynamic of a team. It is great to hear that he is excited about our interest!!
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Hoyas4Ever
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Jan 19, 2016 12:31:30 GMT -5
When it comes to his recruiting and what he is looking for, Chris Lykes seems to keep everything to himself. So far, he's not one of these kids who seems starved for the attention and talking to every recruiting site out their like so many other kids. Outside of being offered by a program, he doesn't tweet much else regarding recruiting. He will re-tweet what people say about him going to potential school in particular Georgetown, but nothing directly by him. He was recently was on the Ricardo Report Radio Show on Fox 1340 am in DC area right around the time the Hoyas offered him and they never even discussed his recruiting which made me believe he let the show know he wasn't interested in discussing his college recruiting. I find his approach so far refreshing. I'm not a fan of these kids who are constantly on every recruiting site and on social media trolling college fans for follows by constantly talking about how they are really considering their school when they really have no interest in the school.
It's still really early in his recruitment with the Hoyas, JT3 and the staff. He was only offered a couple weeks ago by JT3 and has been to both home games since. Does anyone know if Lykes has actually been on campus yet? I have no idea if he has or hasn't been on campus yet. Lykes or no one in his inner circle are not promoting it. He has unofficially visited VCU, Maryland back in August and U. Miami last month. To answer your original question, Lykes has kept everything so close to the vets so we might not ever know how he truly feels about any school recruiting him and one random day he will just commit (Hopefully to Georgetown) to a program. At least I hope that how he continues to handle his recruiting.
I'M ALL IN FOR CHRIS LYKES!!!
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Post by FromTheBeginning on Jan 19, 2016 13:08:19 GMT -5
Please forward all necessary paperwork to join the Coalition - come on down Chris!!!
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Post by NCHoya on Jan 19, 2016 13:37:27 GMT -5
This kid brings something different to the team that we have not had in a long time. I am all for it. If what you have is not working, evolve and change. I like that III is finally starting to come around and looking at pure point guards that can bring an order to this team.
I am fully onboard the Chris Lykes Needs To Commit To Georgetown Coalition!
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 19, 2016 14:58:44 GMT -5
Count me in.
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Post by OldHoyafan on Jan 19, 2016 15:35:29 GMT -5
As one who was on the Bracey to Georgetown bandwagon, I believe this young man has as much and probably more, given his 3pt accuracy, potential to be a true "game changer" for the Hoyas. I hate to put so much expectation on a young man, but if all the present undergrads other than Cameron(junior) stayed until 2017, he would be the "straw that stirs the drink" for that multitalented team. I like the reports about Mosely, but his skill set seems to be similar to K Johnson, i.e., good combo guard who can play some point. Lykes however is a true point who like all true pg's relishes that leadership role. That kind of play is contagious to the rest of the team. I believe not only will he set up his teammates for easy lay ups or 3pt shots but his teammates ability to pass and set up others will also increase. I know that's a lot to expect of a frosh, but it's what he does and enjoys doing it. Unfortunately, it has been like work to those who came before him ,who were scoring guards who had to convert to pg. He could be a transformative player for JTIII's system. The Princeton Principled offense could be finally transformed to the Princeton Principled offense on steroids.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 19, 2016 17:11:05 GMT -5
As one who was on the Bracey to Georgetown bandwagon, I believe this young man has as much and probably more, given his 3pt accuracy, potential to be a true "game changer" for the Hoyas. I hate to put so much expectation on a young man, but if all the present undergrads other than Cameron(junior) stayed until 2017, he would be the "straw that stirs the drink" for that multitalented team. I like the reports about Mosely, but his skill set seems to be similar to K Johnson, i.e., good combo guard who can play some point. Lykes however is a true point who like all true pg's relishes that leadership role. That kind of play is contagious to the rest of the team. I believe not only will he set up his teammates for easy lay ups or 3pt shots but his teammates ability to pass and set up others will also increase. I know that's a lot to expect of a frosh, but it's what he does and enjoys doing it. Unfortunately, it has been like work to those who came before him ,who were scoring guards who had to convert to pg. He could be a transformative player for JTIII's system. The Princeton Principled offense could be finally transformed to the Princeton Principled offense on steroids. Provided that Lykes can stay in front of guys, we can live with a relative inability to use his height to defend. That will put us in a situation with Lykes, Moseley, Johnson and hopefully a more conscientious Peak and Campbell as our key perimeter defenders. That team should be quick enough to defend. Lyke will need to provide a lot of offense, though, in that group. Edit: left out Foster because I don't know enough about him.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Jan 19, 2016 17:26:01 GMT -5
To my eye watching the available video clips, Lykes seems like a much stronger recruit than Bracey. A smidge quicker. Better hops. Better outside shot.
Dropping 20 as a junior on VJ King from Paul VI. I mean, that says something.
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Post by HoyaChris on Jan 19, 2016 17:28:29 GMT -5
I too am all in, but it would appear that his offense is way, way, way ahead of his defense.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Jan 19, 2016 17:40:10 GMT -5
I too am all in, but it would appear that his offense is way, way, way ahead of his defense. Yes, I would agree and he's listed anywhere from 5'6" to 5'8" -- defense is going to be a major challenge for him at the college level. But to your point about offense, here are his stats through last night's game which I pulled from Washington Post website: 22.7ppg 2.9 3PFG/game 4 APG 76% FT As a junior, he's the unquestioned leader of a 14-2 Gonzaga team that is ranked #3 in D.C. area with losses only to Roman Catholic (PA) and St. John's (loss in OT). Would be very surprised he's not on the first or second All-Met team. METHYNKS MELYKES CHRIS LYKES
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