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Post by EtomicB on Mar 16, 2016 19:37:13 GMT -5
I'll toss a name out I guess Brian Starr #2 in blue 6'3 pg who plays for Colby has gotten some MM+ looks Iona and others The Kansas City, Mo., sophomore led the Trojans in points (14.3) and assists (7.1) per game, and also averaged 5. 6 rebounds. Starr is scheduled to graduate in May and has not decided where he will play next seaso - See more at: www.colbycc.edu/athletics/teams/mens-basketball/mens-basketball-news/attia-and-starr-earn-honors#sthash.rZDuEzWr.dpuf#2 in blue Pretty active from the jump and seems to have a really nice feel for where to go with the basketball 37 7 and 5 in this game against Oklahoma commit Darrion Strong Not to be a hypocrite but I like this kid's game a lot, definitely looks to be a good fit..
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 16, 2016 20:43:30 GMT -5
I'd be on it, kid can play..
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Mar 17, 2016 1:11:36 GMT -5
Mulmore has a better chance to be ready at the beginning of the season then an unproven incoming freshman will be. Mulmore has played really well against 18-21 year olds which is much more impressive then any high school kids still available. This team needs a guard who uses ball handling as a weapon, meaning that they can use it to get into the lane, create perimeter space, and hold defenders for a split second in PNR to where he has them at his mercy. We don't have a PG on the roster who has the handle and foot speed to put pressure on the defense. Unless someone decommits from a high major, your not going to find that at the high school/prep this late in the 2016 class. Like I said previously, if everyone comes back healthy and you add the right kind of PG to the roster, we are a really good team that's back competing at the top of the BIG EAST Conference and a top 4 seed in the NCAA tournament. Adding a mature skilled PG to the roster is the most important thing the staff needs to accomplish heading into next season. Regarding Trice, I could see where you see Wallace in Trice in terms of ability to catch and shoot but that's where it stops. Trice is so slow with foot speed and lateral quickness. I also think the way the Hoyas are currently constructed he can't help in any way. Eron Gordon, Marcus Ottey and Jordan Bowden can possibly play in the BIG EAST but they won't be impactful their freshman year in the conference IMO. They can be a piece in spot minutes as freshmen who have their moments but won't put you over the top. We are built to win now if we get an impactful player at the PG. I hope the staff use the scholarship on a transfer JUCO/5th year PG and then get someone that has a ton of question marks about them. You want to limit the amount questions regarding who ever you bring in. A proven upperclassman does that. What you're describing in that 1st paragraph is very lofty in my view, even highly rated kids would have a hard time meeting those types of expectations.. Let's be real at this stage in the game the chances that the staff lands a kid who'll put G'town over the top is very slim so to me I would look at a longer term view.. I'm definitely in the search for freshman camp, I believe that's the way to build a solid program.. I think the staff gives up way to early in this regard.. As I've mentioned a few times lately kids like Galen Robinson or Otis Livingston Jr. would have helped G'town this year.. I saw both play several times & they're both better ball handlers/facilitators than Tre or Kaleb.. Neither are bouncy or crazy fast, they just know how to play.. I think that trait gets overlooked way too often.. Regarding the first paragraph lofty views, yes I agree that is a lofty view for a highly rated kid and only a few kids a per class enter college with that kind of ball skills but that is exactly the type of PG this team needs and why I'm against going after another freshman to add to the roster and more in the adding a more mature and developed physically and mentally player then a freshman that you have no idea if or when the light is going to turn on. I do typically agree that bringing in freshmen is a better way to build a program then the JUCO or transfer route, but when you are a staff coming off an 15-18 season, you completely misevaluated a player on your roster leaving a gaping whole at what has become the most important position in college basketball, you can't wait and hope that a freshman PG can come in and fill the need right away. A JUCO or transfer is a way to put a bandage over a boo boo and get you through a year or 2 and compete until you can bring in a high level high school recruit and get back to your usual recruiting cycle of focusing on high school prospects. The number 1 need is a PG who can turn the corner, getting into the lane putting pressure on the defense, opening up opportunities for teammates, finishing inside through contact and drawing fouls while keeping the defense honest at all 3 levels. Johnathan Mulmore crosses off everything on that checklist. He shot close to 50% from the floor, a respectable 32% from 3 point range that should improve when he's not the focal point of the offense and continued repetition and polish. Most importantly, not only is he used to playing with the ball in his hands but his 6 APG suggests he can be a playmaker which this team can definitely use. With a hopefully healthy Paul White and a freshman Jagan Mosely who are natural ball movers you add a player like Mulmore whose stats suggest he can be one to as well as a finisher. One thing this past season has shown is that you can never have too many playmakers. Lastly, I'm never for recruiting a kid to be a 11th or 12th man on your team. You have to go after kids who you truly believe are going to be starters and major contributors at some point in their 4 years on campus. The earlier the better! It's not fair to the kids nor does your team get better if you bring in players who you see as nothing more than an end of the bench player. When you do that and you have injuries, and a player higher on the playing rotation doesn't pan out, you end up with a losing record. I'm not saying this is what happened to us this year but there are some commonalities. Programs only get 13 scholarships so you can't waist them on end of the bench kids.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Mar 17, 2016 21:50:49 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 17, 2016 22:19:36 GMT -5
Not much out there.. If Mulmore doesn't work out, does the staff pack it in? I hope not..
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Post by vv83 on Mar 17, 2016 22:38:56 GMT -5
Not much out there.. If Mulmore doesn't work out, does the staff pack it in? I hope not.. I think something like 600 players transferred last year, so there will likely be a lot more names on that list in the coming months.
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 17, 2016 22:48:05 GMT -5
Not much out there.. If Mulmore doesn't work out, does the staff pack it in? I hope not.. I think something like 600 players transferred last year, so there will likely be a lot more names on that list in the coming months. Good point, I googled Damion Lee's name & saw that he didn't announce his transfer until 3/30.. You're right there's still time..
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 17, 2016 22:50:26 GMT -5
Yes, anybody transferring who is on an active NIT or NCAA team would not have announced yet in all likelihood, so I think there's a way to go. But, the depth of talent available for transfers is generally pretty low. I still don't think we should be counting on anybody coming in as a 5th year transfer, since the quality of the guys available is typically low. But, you never know.
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Post by sleepy on Mar 18, 2016 9:52:54 GMT -5
It's not a question of quality. It's a question is it better than what you have now. There's no doubt that there are those types of players out there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2016 9:58:18 GMT -5
OT not really GTown related but It's a long off season so I'm just going to post this here... Stumbled upon this kid last night randomly. I'm just going to post this here so hopefully someone can explain to me what I'm watching... Kid just broke the Kansas state tourney scoring record scoring 100+ combined over 3 games. On the season he averaged 26 + a game and according to his coach shot well over 50% from 2 and 40% from 3. Now I know most HS coaches fudge numbers so not believing that 100% but Intrigued I pull up a quick vid start watching... Here it is WTH.... None of those shots were easy ones fadeaways and 26ft 3's. He dam near pulled from halfcourt at 45 seconds in. All looked wild and flailing yet he makes 11-17?? I look a little deeper and see he played on the Adidas circuit and averaged 19 a game on 50% + from the field and and around 40% from 3 again. He hung 28 on Anthony Cowan (10-17) and 25 on Mustapha Heron. I mean I get it he's small and looks more SG than PG but Kid has 2 D1 scholarships offers total(Sam Houston and Kent St). Seems like some LM or MM's would be all over him with those numbers a Prep year might might do wonders.. Idk adidasuprising.com/adidas-grassroots-mens-events/adidas-gauntlet-series/indianapolis/They also have a 2018 Guard on that team named Israel Barnes who looks like a HM, around 6'3 averaged 20+ as a Soph
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 20, 2016 13:25:16 GMT -5
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Post by sweetness on Mar 20, 2016 13:38:41 GMT -5
Smacks of desperation. I really hope we get this JUCO.
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Post by daymondmyles on Mar 20, 2016 13:43:35 GMT -5
Uh, yeah. Saw some threads where NC A&T fans were talking about him as a walk on a couple years back. Let that sink in. A walk on to NC A&T. Unless he improved by the most a player has ever improved, I'm struggling to see this as a reasonable choice.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Mar 20, 2016 13:45:21 GMT -5
Fort Hood finishes 2nd in weekend tourney lead by Denzel Hosch
Denzell Hosch, a shooting guard on the Fort Hood team, said they learned from that opening loss. “It showed us that we needed to play more aggressive and more as a team, and also to play better defense,” he said. “And we carried that on throughout the tournament.” “We ended up speeding up the tempo and played to our strengths,” Meyers added. Having already played Lackland twice preceding the weekend’s tournament, that team is becoming a familiar foe for the Fort Hood team. Going against each other in the semifinals was their fourth head-to-head meeting. “We knew what they were going to do; they knew what we were going to do,” Hosch said. “So that game was all about heart and all about who wanted it more. Both teams have seen each other – they know each other’s players, each other’s shooters, who to box out, who to not foul.”... “We knew what they were going to do; they knew what we were going to do,” Hosch said. “So that game was all about heart and all about who wanted it more. Both teams have seen each other – they know each other’s players, each other’s shooters, who to box out, who to not foul.” “We just out-worked them. We just wanted it more,” said Meyers, who noted both teams playing an equal amount of tournament games at that point in the weekend. “It was the combined effort of athleticism and just smart basketball.” Facing Air Force Prep in the championship, Fort Hood’s fourth game of the day, the team from the Great Place fell behind by a large margin. At points in the second half, Air Force Prep’s lead reached as high as 30. And then Hosch caught fire. Fort Hood’s leading scorer went on to sink eight of nine 3-pointers in the second half.
“My teammates were doing a great job to get me open,” Hosch said. “And I was just trying to help us fight back, just trying to narrow down the deficit. We cut it down to single digits after being down 27 at halftime.” Fort Hood assistant coach Hector Montague said the coaches took a different approach to that halftime break, intentionally stepping back and letting the players work through it. “We let them go ahead and talk and see what they could come up with,” Montague said. “They all decided to just leave it all out on the floor. They knew Denzell’s skill-set. They pretty much put it on his shoulders, and he accepted that role. They set picks for him, they communicated, and he just went into a zone.” Hosch finished with 42 points, connecting on nine-of-10 free throws along the way. “Just to fight back showed that we have a lot of heart,” Hosch said. “We weren’t going to lie down let them beat us by 60. It wasn’t as bad as it could have been.”
Meyers called Hosch’s outing a Herculean effort.
“He was shooting over guys that were 6-foot-7, and the ball wasn’t even hitting the rim (as it went in),” Meyers said. “We just try to get him the ball in situations that are more beneficial to him. The things that I saw him do on the basketball court, I hadn’t seen him do before.
“It wasn’t so much that he was on fire,” he added. “It was the level that he was playing at against the Air Force Prep team. He was the best player on the floor, on both sides of the ball. His teammates got involved, and they were setting double and even triple screens for him to get him good looks.”
Hosch played high school ball in North Carolina before joining the Army. Arriving at Fort Hood, he said he never thought that something like this, playing on a post team, was possible. “I was just praying that maybe one day I would get to play on something other than the company level,” he said.Meyers described the Fort Hood team as young and still improving. “They’ve only been together for three months,” Meyers said, “after going a couple of decades without having a post team. There’s no continuity yet.” Montague, like Meyers, is happy with how far they have come this quickly, while also showing a lot of potential for the future. “We’re trying to reach a level, the team as a Fort Hood brand,” Montague said. “We want to elevate the whole program to a varsity level.”
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Post by daymondmyles on Mar 20, 2016 13:45:54 GMT -5
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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 20, 2016 14:00:55 GMT -5
Smacks of desperation. I really hope we get this JUCO. Must not be feeling confident on Mulmore if they're offering the Ft. Hood guy the day after Mulmore's visit.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 20, 2016 14:03:13 GMT -5
Hosch played high school ball in North Carolina before joining the Army. Arriving at Fort Hood, he said he never thought that something like this, playing on a post team, was [/b]possible. “I was just praying that maybe one day I would get to play on something other than the company level,” he said.Meyers described the Fort Hood team as young and still improving. “They’ve only been together for three months,” Meyers said, “after going a couple of decades without having a post team. There’s no continuity yet.” [/quote] A bit of trivia, Allen Iverson made his Hoya debut against Ft. Hood Tankers back in a 1994 pre-season exhibition game at McDonough. www.nytimes.com/1994/11/10/sports/on-college-basketball-saving-the-story-for-the-game.html
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Mar 20, 2016 14:05:36 GMT -5
Smacks of desperation. I really hope we get this JUCO. Do your homework on the kid before you just blurt out the first thing that comes to mind. I doubt the JT3 and staff would offer this man unless they felt he could play at this level. I actually like the idea because he will be a man playing amongst boys. The learning and physical curve will be minimal because of his maturity. It also tells me that JT3 is willing to look anywhere & everywhere for talent. JT3 didn't have to offer Denzel Hosch right now as most of the 5th year free agents have yet to declare their desires to transfer. JT3 and the staff must feel that Hosch and Mulmore can absolutely play to offer each and in Mulmore's case get him on a visit already. Also puts pressure on Mulmore to figure out if he wants to be a Hoya sooner then later.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Mar 20, 2016 14:12:23 GMT -5
Denzel Hosch Blue #24
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Post by deacon on Mar 20, 2016 14:38:25 GMT -5
He's apparently committed to Georgetown per numerous Twitter sources.
So ....
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