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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Dec 27, 2013 15:08:36 GMT -5
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Post by joeybrownrules on Dec 27, 2013 17:49:16 GMT -5
Cameron could play more but that assumes he should play more than who? Take his minutes from Jabril? I want more time for him but the guy is a freshman and is not ready. I honestly don't get the ask for him to get 15+ minutes. Just tell me how you want the minutes... JT = 30 What do you want with the other 20? And maybe you take 10 from Jabril but if that's what this thread is about than clearly I'm at a loss for understanding all of your aggressive points. Jabril is averaging 23 mins. per game. So that's 7 mins there.
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Post by joeybrownrules on Dec 27, 2013 17:56:04 GMT -5
Seems kinda easy to get Cameron on the court. There are 80 minutes between the PF/C slot, 120 between the three perimeter slots.
80 - Lubick 25, Smith 20, Hopkins 20, Ayegba 10 120 - Starks 34, DSR 32, Trawick 24, Bowen 15, Cameron 12, Domingo 3
That leaves five minutes to dole out as needed or to Smith in those games he can stay on the court. If Cameron deserves more minutes, there are plenty of placed to take some from. Just seems like at some point JTIII has to commit to Cameron (and Domingo) receiving X minutes per game regardless in order to see if they're worthy of more. The offense needs scoring/shooting help and in theory those two can do that.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 15, 2014 21:28:28 GMT -5
The guards need to l9ok outside of themselves and get the role players involved even when times get tough. Reggie had some pretty good 3pt shooting in the first half and there is no reason why he was so ineffective in the 2nd. He has a good stroke and can make 3s even after taking a dribble to avoid defensive players recklessly closing out. Without Josh we need more scoring outside of DSR and Markel driving and what better then a kickout to an open 3pt shooter.
EDIT: Thanks mods for moving this to the correct thread, couldn't find it on my phone.
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Post by This Just In on Jan 15, 2014 21:34:25 GMT -5
The guards need to l9ok outside of themselves and get the role players involved even when times get tough. Reggie had some pretty good 3pt shooting in the first half and there is no reason why he was so ineffective in the 2nd. He has a good stroke and can make 3s even after taking a dribble to avoid defensive players recklessly closing out. Without Josh we need more scoring outside of DSR and Markel driving and what better then a kickout to an open 3pt shooter. DSR and Starks are used to getting their own shots...they are not "Pass First" guards.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 15, 2014 21:43:41 GMT -5
The guards need to l9ok outside of themselves and get the role players involved even when times get tough. Reggie had some pretty good 3pt shooting in the first half and there is no reason why he was so ineffective in the 2nd. He has a good stroke and can make 3s even after taking a dribble to avoid defensive players recklessly closing out. Without Josh we need more scoring outside of DSR and Markel driving and what better then a kickout to an open 3pt shooter. Reggie got the ball when he was hot. He stopped getting the ball when he went cold. If he shows consistency over a few games I suspect the guards will get him the ball down the stretch.
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Post by 3xhoya on Jan 15, 2014 22:02:29 GMT -5
The guards need to l9ok outside of themselves and get the role players involved even when times get tough. Reggie had some pretty good 3pt shooting in the first half and there is no reason why he was so ineffective in the 2nd. He has a good stroke and can make 3s even after taking a dribble to avoid defensive players recklessly closing out. Without Josh we need more scoring outside of DSR and Markel driving and what better then a kickout to an open 3pt shooter. Reggie got the ball when he was hot. He stopped getting the ball when he went cold. If he shows consistency over a few games I suspect the guards will get him the ball down the stretch. Reggie was 5/10 for the game and 3/6 from 3. He never went cold but stopped getting the opportunity/set up in a good position to succeed. The guards have to realize they can't do it on their own.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 15, 2014 22:20:17 GMT -5
Reggie got the ball when he was hot. He stopped getting the ball when he went cold. If he shows consistency over a few games I suspect the guards will get him the ball down the stretch. Reggie was 5/10 for the game and 3/6 from 3. He never went cold but stopped getting the opportunity/set up in a good position to succeed. The guards have to realize they can't do it on their own. I believe he was 1 for his last 4, maybe "cold" isn't the right word, but he definitely cooled off, and I have no doubt that contributed to kel and DSR hesitating to give him the ball as the game started to slip away. Again, as he has more solid games the confidence will rise, both his own and that of the guards to keep going to him.
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Post by wahoohoya on Jan 15, 2014 23:02:27 GMT -5
Keep shooting Reggie. I suspect that as he gets used to playing longer minutes, those shots will start to fall more consistently late in the game. Despite the loss, really have been enjoying watching Reggie's development. Between him and DSR next year, we're going to have some serious shooting out there.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 15, 2014 23:21:08 GMT -5
Keep shooting Reggie. I suspect that as he gets used to playing longer minutes, those shots will start to fall more consistently late in the game. Despite the loss, really have been enjoying watching Reggie's development. Between him and DSR next year, we're going to have some serious shooting out there. Definitely encouraging watching Reggie tonight. If he keeps working he is a big part of our plans going forward.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 15, 2014 23:56:22 GMT -5
Cameron's shooting was pretty nice tonight, but I can see where he is a big liability on defense. Every time he is in a one-on-one situation, his guy blows by him, and it often leads to a frontcourt foul when somebody else tries to cover for him. I still think Cameron needs to play because he is an offensive threat (and we have no others), but he needs to step up the defense.
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Post by rockhoya on Jan 16, 2014 8:01:05 GMT -5
Cameron's shooting was pretty nice tonight, but I can see where he is a big liability on defense. Every time he is in a one-on-one situation, his guy blows by him, and it often leads to a frontcourt foul when somebody else tries to cover for him. I still think Cameron needs to play because he is an offensive threat (and we have no others), but he needs to step up the defense. Not everytime because a few times I was pleasantly surprised at his intensity and effectiveness when guarding players one-on-one (mostly smaller guys)
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 16, 2014 9:48:02 GMT -5
Last night at the hotel bar, I ran into an NBA scout (former all star player) who was at the game last night scouting. He was primarily there to see Semaj Christon, but he came away very impressed by Cameron. In fact, he said Cameron's the one guy on Georgetown last night that looks like he can play in the NBA - loved his size and shooting ability. He said DSR is a good college guard but his body type is not fit for the pros. The guy he mentioned being disappointed about was Whittington, as that was the player that his team was tracking from the Hoyas. No mention of Markel or anybody else.
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Post by GUJook97 on Jan 16, 2014 10:48:09 GMT -5
Cameron's shooting was pretty nice tonight, but I can see where he is a big liability on defense. Every time he is in a one-on-one situation, his guy blows by him, and it often leads to a frontcourt foul when somebody else tries to cover for him. I still think Cameron needs to play because he is an offensive threat (and we have no others), but he needs to step up the defense. I hate to say it this way, but I pretty much think our man to man defense is a lost cause for this season. That was a big part of last night, too. Once Xavier recognized that we were never coming out of zone, they did things differently. All this to say, I am not too concerned about keeping Cameron on the bench because his defense isnt good. At least he is starting to look like a threat on the offense. I expect that going fwd, III is going to try more sets that resemble the Hollis Thompson/Freeman-Jason Clark-Wright approach. We should be shooting 20-25 3s a night.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 16, 2014 11:06:45 GMT -5
There was only one time that I was disappointed in Reggie last night. It was maybe midway through the second half, Xavier had cut into the lead but we were still up by 7 or 8. Reggie got the ball outside the arc in the right corner. His man was a few feet away, and flew at him as Reggie faked his shot. The defender flew by, Reggie started to dribble and literally had no one between him and the hoop. I actually yelled at the screen for him to go to the basket. But instead of taking it to the rim, or at least moving in for a wide open 10-12 footer, he dribbled twice to his left and then passed out to Markel at the top of the key. I know it will come in time, but he needs to be aggressive there, and not just rely on the perimeter game. Still, last night was very encouraging, especially after he was 1-7 from outside Saturday, he did not go into a shell and stop shooting. We desperately need for him to become a consistent viable offensive weapon if we are going to do anything this year.
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Post by MCIGuy on Jan 16, 2014 11:46:24 GMT -5
Last night at the hotel bar, I ran into an NBA scout (former all star player) who was at the game last night scouting. He was primarily there to see Semaj Christon, but he came away very impressed by Cameron. In fact, he said Cameron's the one guy on Georgetown last night that looks like he can play in the NBA - loved his size and shooting ability. He said DSR is a good college guard but his body type is not fit for the pros. The guy he mentioned being disappointed about was Whittington, as that was the player that his team was tracking from the Hoyas. No mention of Markel or anybody else. Hmmm. Interesting. So an NBA scout thinks Reggie can make it to the pros. But what about his TERRIBLE defense? Ha. This is all speculation and much too early in Cameron’s college days to be talking about it probably. However this doesn’t surprise me. If you can do one thing very well you have a shot at the NBA. Cameron’s strength going forward is his ability to shoot, an asset that remains highly valuable in the NBA. Even better he has the height and the quick release that could allow him to remain a danger from beyond the three-point line if he made it to the next level. Obviously there are a slew of areas he needs to work n before that can become a reality. In my opinion if DSR keeps this up he will make an NBA team. He’s a great scorer who is getting better and better and great scorers tend to make NBA rosters. Now of course many of those great college scorers end up doing next to nothing in the NBA and that may be the case with DSR. And because he isn’t an explosive athlete and doesn’t have the so-called “NBA body” he may have to make a team as a second round pick (the very best he can do is late first round) or via the undrafted route but he should get there. People look at his negatives but ignore his positives. He’s strong. He’s a crafty dribbler who is bound to get better in the future. He is a far underrated passer, picking up much more assist than a shooting guard in III’s offense has any right to. He overachieves in the rebounding department. And like Cameron he is a shooter. And not some mere volume shooter, he hits a high percentage. And the shots come from all over the floor. Long three-point range bombs/ Pull up shots in the paint in a halfcourt offense. Pull up long jumpshot off the fastbreak. Turnaround jumpers off the bounce. Scoring off of drives to the hole even when there is contact by bigger defenders. Fadeaway jumpers. He has a whole bag of tricks in terms of shots. Oh, and if that scout was disappointed that Whittington was no longer on the team he should imagine how Hoya fans feel.
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Post by CaliHoya on Feb 5, 2014 15:45:58 GMT -5
While Reggie Cameron isn't shooting nearly as well (just 33%) as he showed in high school, I'm definitely confident that these bigger minutes he's getting will pay off in future seasons. Reggie this year still seems to be a little too hesitant and not confident enough to just let it fly if he's open. I'm expecting big things from Cameron going forward.
Similarly, Trevor Cooney struggled as a redshirt freshman and shot only 27% last year. This year, he's shooting 44% and having some big games, like against Notre Dame this week (33 points). DSR also shot only 34% last year, and now is shooting 40%.
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Post by nychoya3 on Feb 5, 2014 16:13:41 GMT -5
I'm definitely bullish on Cameron's potential. His stroke is great and I think he'll be a 40 percent shooter when it's all said and done. I think he'll turn into a very valuable player for us.
He's not a great athlete or anything, but I don't think he's exceptionally bad or anything like that. Moves fairly well and needs to get stronger, but he competes. And he has great size for a shooter.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 5, 2014 16:49:21 GMT -5
Reggie is very slowly gaining confidence. It still waxes and wanes on particular nights, but overall he is making progress. He will be stronger and quicker next season and a big part of our success.
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Feb 5, 2014 23:43:31 GMT -5
Agree on all the Cameron bullishness. With added offensive weapons next year and moving forward (hopefully), he should see many more good looks and with more confidence and experience, I fully expect him to knock them down at a higher rate. After all, it's gotta be tough to be a freshman thrown into the fire in a "3 vs. 5" situation on offense where he's the third option. Just keep shooting.
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