dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on Jan 21, 2014 21:18:05 GMT -5
we'll see.
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Talos
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Post by Talos on Jan 22, 2014 9:49:37 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I would love to have a player like Rabb. However, how realistic is it at this point? GU has limited time/resources to recruit kids; maybe we should be focusing on more realistic targets. I just don't want to see repeats of recent years when we go all in on players we probably aren't going to get (Noel, Anderson, Elbert, etc.), and then in the process lose out on the second tier.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2014 10:40:30 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I would love to have a player like Rabb. However, how realistic is it at this point? GU has limited time/resources to recruit kids; maybe we should be focusing on more realistic targets. I just don't want to see repeats of recent years when we go all in on players we probably aren't going to get (Noel, Anderson, Elbert, etc.), and then in the process lose out on the second tier. The problem Talos is there simply are not a lot of quality centers period. The staff is already going to be in California going after Commanche so it makes sense to stop in on Rabb. You land 0% of the kids you don’t recruit. I don’t see the harm in it tbh
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Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Jan 22, 2014 10:45:23 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I would love to have a player like Rabb. However, how realistic is it at this point? GU has limited time/resources to recruit kids; maybe we should be focusing on more realistic targets. I just don't want to see repeats of recent years when we go all in on players we probably aren't going to get (Noel, Anderson, Elbert, etc.), and then in the process lose out on the second tier. The problem Talos is there simply are not a lot of quality centers period. The staff is already going to be in California going after Commanche so it makes sense to stop in on Rabb. You land 0% of the kids you don’t recruit. I don’t see the harm in it tbh Agree with this. This kid is a future pro and can play 5 in college. Entice him with Roy Hibbert/Greg Monroe pitches and give it a try at least.
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Jan 22, 2014 14:56:23 GMT -5
Agree, with our recent history, the wider the net, the better...
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hoyafan23
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Post by hoyafan23 on Jan 22, 2014 15:17:44 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2014 15:25:41 GMT -5
Never hurts to be mentioned first… haha
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hoyafan23
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Post by hoyafan23 on Jan 22, 2014 15:31:44 GMT -5
Never hurts to be mentioned first… haha after a tough last two weeks of gtown basketball this made me a little optimistic
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2014 15:54:48 GMT -5
Would be a complete game changer-- every analyst will make the Ewing-Zo-Mutombo-Hibbert-Monroe comparison. Believe a bouncy guy like him with the other bouncy guys we have coming in would revitalize the brand from our rut. Add in a guy like Trier, Mann or Bacon and you're talking about national championship talent.... Anyway, Raab seems like a great kid. Would be a great fit with the program....
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IDenj
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Post by IDenj on Jan 22, 2014 15:56:30 GMT -5
Seems like we are in with a few quality 4/5's in the 15 class. Would be nice to close one to turn our attention to a stud pg and 2.
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Post by blueandgray on Jan 22, 2014 19:29:02 GMT -5
Seems like we are in with a few quality 4/5's in the 15 class. Would be nice to close one to turn our attention to a stud pg and 2. From what I know, great kid with great family. His mother is very knowledgable about GU and understands what we have to offer.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 22, 2014 21:20:13 GMT -5
Seems like we are in with a few quality 4/5's in the 15 class. Would be nice to close one to turn our attention to a stud pg and 2. From what I know, great kid with great family. His mother is very knowledgable about GU and understands what we have to offer. My question though is he willing to play the 5 spot @ G'town? Every other school that's on him is recruiting him as a 4, I know the 5 spot in JT3's system is more like a 4 anyway but it's still different than other systems.. As I always say I'm all for the Rabbs of the world and I'll be happy as hell to pull one but I have to know who the fall backs are if these 5 star kids go elsewhere? If the staff is in Cali why not check in on Rabb's aau teammate Chimezie Metu while they're there? verbalcommits.com/players/chimezie-metuGo look in on Jeremy Miller who plays with Terance Mann @ BABC verbalcommits.com/players/jeremy-millerMiller is #34 in the clip.. Mann is the truth btw.. These kids are solid 3+ star recruits who aren't being recruited by the same level of programs that are chasing Rabb, Comanche, Stone, Dickerson ect... so to me there's more of a chance to land one of them.. I have a feeling that we're gonna see Copeland or Derrickson starting at the 5 spot in 2015-16 season..
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prhoya
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Post by prhoya on Jan 22, 2014 22:22:43 GMT -5
Seems like we are in with a few quality 4/5's in the 15 class. Would be nice to close one to turn our attention to a stud pg and 2. From what I know, great kid with great family. His mother is very knowledgable about GU and understands what we have to offer. Great! Moms are the best for GU (well, except Mrs. Pollard).
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Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Jan 23, 2014 12:32:23 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I would love to have a player like Rabb. However, how realistic is it at this point? GU has limited time/resources to recruit kids; maybe we should be focusing on more realistic targets. I just don't want to see repeats of recent years when we go all in on players we probably aren't going to get (Noel, Anderson, Elbert, etc.), and then in the process lose out on the second tier. If we are making Rabb our #1 target and investing all of our resources into him, I would agree with you that it is a bad strategy. But I think the staff is focusing on Dickerson and Commanche, who are more likely to come to us than Rabb. After those two guys, the staff is also looking into Doral Moore more than Rabb by weighting the probability of them actually wanting to play for us as well. Investing the leftover resources into Rabb and hoping for a turnaround/change of his mind to leave West Coast, however, is not a bad strategy because after all, Rabb is the most talented big in the class imo. The chance of him leaving West Coast is pretty slim according to the people around him, but who knows? maybe he has a sudden change of heart
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 23, 2014 13:09:15 GMT -5
I think everyone agree with the idea that we don't wait on anyone -- and we certainly shouldn't split hairs between a Top 100 guy and a Top 20 guy. We simply can't afford to end up with only projects.
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EtomicB
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 23, 2014 20:14:05 GMT -5
I think everyone agree with the idea that we don't wait on anyone -- and we certainly shouldn't split hairs between a Top 100 guy and a Top 20 guy. We simply can't afford to end up with only projects. But where are the top 100 guys SF? Here are the bigs the staff is on for 2015 and their composite ranking(rivals, scout & espn) from verbal commits.. Rabb - 3 E.Thomas - 9 D. Moore - 25 Comanche - 30 Dickerson - 43 Papagiannis isn't rated right now probably because he's new to the states but many experts say he's a future lottery pick.. This list looks very nice but who knows.. I have good vibes that Dickerson will commit but in my opinion there should be some kids in the 75-125 range heavily on the staff's radar because if the program isn't getting a big in 2014 then they'll need at least 2 in 2015..
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 23, 2014 20:59:09 GMT -5
Yeah, agree, Etomic. They need to go volume here at some point.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jan 23, 2014 22:36:33 GMT -5
In fairness we don't know that they're NOT on any of those "lesser" prospects. We hear about the higher rated players that we're on because, well, they're higher rated and the recruiting sites focus on interviewing and giving updates on those players. I feel more comfortable than I did a few years back that the staff is casting a wider net and not slow playing their backups on the big board as much as they used to.
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Jan 24, 2014 4:30:34 GMT -5
Agreed, Rabb is important, but so are a handful of other guys that staff have been monitoring closely for a while now. Staff is very focused on Rabb ...but there are a handful of guys that are also getting quite a bit of attention.
Furthermore, it's not like our cubberd is bare and we are shooting for the stars. With copeland, white, Campbell, Peak, Derrickson and DSR already in the mix....all you need is a guy like Rabb to put us over the top and make the team a national contender to win it all. Rabb knows this, and the staff knows this. Not only should you pursue him, you have a responsibility to pursue him.
Adding guys like Dickerson, Trier, Mann, and Comanche are all important and would make us better and stronger...but Rabb is a game changer and we are putting equal effort into landing him as well.
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ryang
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Post by ryang on Jan 24, 2014 8:39:52 GMT -5
When I read about recruiting on this board - people seem to think that the coaches are stretched in terms of the amount of time and effort that coaches spend recruiting. But in today's day and age - how much of an issue is that really? How many coaches are allowed to recruit - 3 or 4? There are a lot of hours in the day where this can be taken care of (understanding there are limitations on which days coaches can interact with recruits). I'm not yet buying that recruits don't pick us because we weren't "all in" on them. I think we try but don't succeed most of the time.
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