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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 8:43:39 GMT -5
I think everyone agree with the idea that we don't wait on anyone -- and we certainly shouldn't split hairs between a Top 100 guy and a Top 20 guy. We simply can't afford to end up with only projects. But where are the top 100 guys SF? Here are the bigs the staff is on for 2015 and their composite ranking(rivals, scout & espn) from verbal commits.. Rabb - 3 E.Thomas - 9 D. Moore - 25 Comanche - 30 Dickerson - 43 Papagiannis isn't rated right now probably because he's new to the states but many experts say he's a future lottery pick.. This list looks very nice but who knows.. I have good vibes that Dickerson will commit but in my opinion there should be some kids in the 75-125 range heavily on the staff's radar because if the program isn't getting a big in 2014 then they'll need at least 2 in 2015.. Taron Oliver Jessie Govan Sylvester Ogbunda Of the top of my head there are others though
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 24, 2014 9:25:06 GMT -5
But where are the top 100 guys SF? Here are the bigs the staff is on for 2015 and their composite ranking(rivals, scout & espn) from verbal commits.. Rabb - 3 E.Thomas - 9 D. Moore - 25 Comanche - 30 Dickerson - 43 Papagiannis isn't rated right now probably because he's new to the states but many experts say he's a future lottery pick.. This list looks very nice but who knows.. I have good vibes that Dickerson will commit but in my opinion there should be some kids in the 75-125 range heavily on the staff's radar because if the program isn't getting a big in 2014 then they'll need at least 2 in 2015.. Taron Oliver Jessie Govan Sylvester Ogbunda Of the top of my head there are others though I would take Govan in a heartbeat, he's a top 50 kid too.. I haven't read/seen any G'town info on him in a very long time.. It would have to be considered a fail if the staff ends up with Ogbunda or Oliver as the bigs for 2015, they can & should do better than that
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 12:27:11 GMT -5
Taron Oliver Jessie Govan Sylvester Ogbunda Of the top of my head there are others though I would take Govan in a heartbeat, he's a top 50 kid too.. I haven't read/seen any G'town info on him in a very long time.. It would have to be considered a fail if the staff ends up with Ogbunda or Oliver as the bigs for 2015, they can & should do better than that I guess I don’t understand the question then… There’s 11 top 100 centers on 247. Out of those, 8 are in the top 50, and 2 of the remaining are committed to play elsewhere. That leaves 1 available in the 50-100 range. When you expand the list further they only have 4 more centers available in the next 80... yikes.. 247sports.com/Season/2015-Basketball/RecruitRankings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchoolThe Verbal Commits composite list is even less generous..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 12:38:37 GMT -5
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 24, 2014 13:26:17 GMT -5
I would take Govan in a heartbeat, he's a top 50 kid too.. I haven't read/seen any G'town info on him in a very long time.. It would have to be considered a fail if the staff ends up with Ogbunda or Oliver as the bigs for 2015, they can & should do better than that I guess I don’t understand the question then… There’s 11 top 100 centers on 247. Out of those, 8 are in the top 50, and 2 of the remaining are committed to play elsewhere. That leaves 1 available in the 50-100 range. When you expand the list further they only have 4 more centers available in the next 80... yikes.. 247sports.com/Season/2015-Basketball/RecruitRankings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchoolThe Verbal Commits composite list is even less generous.. That's part of the reason I refer to these players as "bigs" not "centers". Any kid 6-9+ and weighs 215+ I count as a big, I think it works when you consider how JT3 runs his system on offense & defense. Versatility is the key.. Yeah, if you just go by the kids labeled centers it's very bleak once you get past the top 50 kids in the class.. Btw Rabb is ridiculously good...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2014 15:12:01 GMT -5
I guess I don’t understand the question then… There’s 11 top 100 centers on 247. Out of those, 8 are in the top 50, and 2 of the remaining are committed to play elsewhere. That leaves 1 available in the 50-100 range. When you expand the list further they only have 4 more centers available in the next 80... yikes.. 247sports.com/Season/2015-Basketball/RecruitRankings?InstitutionGroup=HighSchoolThe Verbal Commits composite list is even less generous.. That's part of the reason I refer to these players as "bigs" not "centers". Any kid 6-9+ and weighs 215+ I count as a big, I think it works when you consider how JT3 runs his system on offense & defense. Versatility is the key.. Yeah, if you just go by the kids labeled centers it's very bleak once you get past the top 50 kids in the class.. Btw Rabb is ridiculously good... Even using that metric, according to their list you still only add about 3-4 available kids tbh … Rabb is silly Arizona seems to have a lock on those Oakland Soldiers kids though… We’ll see
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 24, 2014 17:12:15 GMT -5
That's part of the reason I refer to these players as "bigs" not "centers". Any kid 6-9+ and weighs 215+ I count as a big, I think it works when you consider how JT3 runs his system on offense & defense. Versatility is the key.. Yeah, if you just go by the kids labeled centers it's very bleak once you get past the top 50 kids in the class.. Btw Rabb is ridiculously good... Even using that metric, according to their list you still only add about 3-4 available kids tbh … Rabb is silly Arizona seems to have a lock on those Oakland Soldiers kids though… We’ll see Definitely figured it will be Arizona for Rabb especially given how well Gordon is doing.. Really would like to see the staff get in on Jeremy Miller, he only has offers from BC, Providence & Maryland right now. I bet his recruitment will jump soon, he's not getting too much shine playing with Lydon & Torrie Miller.. He has good upside..
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 2, 2014 13:29:12 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 2, 2014 15:49:49 GMT -5
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 5, 2014 16:55:01 GMT -5
JT3 (and Broadus) flew out to see Rabb today. Starting to feel like we will be in this right till the end.
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Post by IDenj on Feb 5, 2014 17:23:50 GMT -5
With the Hoyas being involved with many of the top bigs in the '15 class is it first come first served? And would there be a perfect amongst any of them? Sounds like we are going to be in it for a top 5 player, bu if someone lower down in the rankings by still high level wants in, then what??
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 5, 2014 17:58:27 GMT -5
With the Hoyas being involved with many of the top bigs in the '15 class is it first come first served? And would there be a perfect amongst any of them? Sounds like we are going to be in it for a top 5 player, bu if someone lower down in the rankings by still high level wants in, then what?? Good question. I don't believe that the staff/or player would have a conflict having guys like Dickerson or Comanche play with a guy like Rabb. A lot of these guys project out as a PF at the next level so in theory you could have a Comanche/Dickerson at the 4 with a Rabb at the 5. It certainly wouldn't alienate Rabb as he would be the focal point of everything we do from day 1. The short answer is, yes....if someone further down the rankings wanted in, we'd take them (and it wouldn't impact our chances with Rabb).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2014 18:08:50 GMT -5
With the Hoyas being involved with many of the top bigs in the '15 class is it first come first served? And would there be a perfect amongst any of them? Sounds like we are going to be in it for a top 5 player, bu if someone lower down in the rankings by still high level wants in, then what?? You take them. Rabb isn’t going to have an affect on that, he is going to be in school for 1 year.
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Post by IDenj on Feb 5, 2014 18:25:59 GMT -5
Good to know.
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 5, 2014 21:30:29 GMT -5
With the Hoyas being involved with many of the top bigs in the '15 class is it first come first served? And would there be a perfect amongst any of them? Sounds like we are going to be in it for a top 5 player, bu if someone lower down in the rankings by still high level wants in, then what?? You take them. Rabb isn’t going to have an affect on that, he is going to be in school for 1 year. I think the question was geared to whether taking a lesser recruit prior to a Rabb commitment would have a chilling effect on Rabb....I don't think it would.
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Post by hoyafan23 on Feb 5, 2014 21:50:30 GMT -5
You take them. Rabb isn’t going to have an affect on that, he is going to be in school for 1 year. I think the question was geared to whether taking a lesser recruit prior to a Rabb commitment would have a chilling effect on Rabb....I don't think it would. hahah we will face this problem when we get there, lets not get too overly optimistic. We are one of twelve teams competing against the blue bloods and against a heavy favorite (arizona) love that we are pushing forward but hopefully this does not turn into a noel or kyle anderson ideal...
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Post by IDenj on Feb 5, 2014 21:53:19 GMT -5
You take them. Rabb isn’t going to have an affect on that, he is going to be in school for 1 year. I think the question was geared to whether taking a lesser recruit prior to a Rabb commitment would have a chilling effect on Rabb....I don't think it would. I think you both answered my questions. Thanks.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Feb 5, 2014 21:53:43 GMT -5
If we sign a player that Rabb is afraid of losing PT to, then we probably don't need Rabb, because we'll have signed a helluva player.
Players of Rabb's caliber aren't afraid of competition.
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Post by tonyparker on Feb 11, 2014 9:26:16 GMT -5
Some quotes from the mother of Ivan Rabb to Duke's Scout site (http://duke.scout.com/2/1374715.html). Get the impression she really likes Georgetown, students are going to have to do their part when the family visits:
Based on what you’ve seen so far schools wise, are there any that you feel really good already about their Business Schools and academic programs that they offer?
"From the educational standpoint, I know that Berkeley has a great Business School, Georgetown has a great Business School, what’s the other school, Arizona has a good Business School. So really, Georgetown, Arizona and Cal have good business school program. Currently the schools that I really like are the coaches at USC, I like Arizona, I like Cal and I like Georgetown and North Carolina, not because I like the Business School, but I really like the coach there, Roy Williams."
Have you made any visits so far?
"We’re talking about visiting Arizona, we’re talking about visiting Georgetown, Duke, he still talks about Duke a lot, they haven’t offered, Kentucky, we’re really going to spend a great deal of time going to visit these different schools and to see what’s there and we’re going to visit some schools on the Midwest and West Coast as well."
The visits outside of the West Coast, are those likely to be tied to AAU Travel schedule permitting, or will it happen before or after AAU Season ?
"We’re going to go visit Georgetown real soon, I really want to get out there and to Arizona for a game. I think those are the immediate two schools and I really want to go see USC too. I know we really like Coach Roy at North Carolina and I know we’d like to get out there and to visit as many schools unofficially out of my own pocket, so that when it comes down to officials we can take those next year."
From your answers it sounds like you’ve got a growing relationship with Coach Williams at North Carolina…?
"I really do like Roy Williams, I like his assistant coach too, Hubert, I like them and like I said, I like Georgetown and USC and Arizona, they are all great. And, of course, Ivan is still very interested in Duke, but like I said, he’s going to be narrowing his list down and if they don’t offer pretty soon, he needs to realize or deal with what’s presented to him."
You mentioned earlier that you were looking for a time to narrow his list further, any idea when that would be?
"I think Ivan’s going to be very open until his senior year even though he has 10 schools in mind. Let’s say that a school that’s not on his list that he really likes offers, he’ll probably open it back up, I don’t think he’s going to make any decision until his senior year and I also think he’s going to watch the teams develop, who commits where at his position and he’ll try to figure out his position on the team and where he fits and what his position would be on the team. We’re definitely looking at how teams use their big men and we’re definitely watching how they develop. As far as watching guys and where they commit, I know that Georgetown has a very good record of bigs, I know they had the number three draft pick this past year as far as big men. Kentucky of course does very well with development of bigs. I think those schools, hopefully there’s a role for Ivan on the team, I just don’t want to see him on the bench, I think that’s one of the things that scares me about some schools. Arizona, I know they are ranked very highly right now and they haven’t talked too much about development, I think USC has talked a lot about development more than anything. I know Arizona right now has Aaron Gordon and Kaleb, the big kid from the Northeast, and Brandon Ashley, I’ve watched his development, so like I said, I’m looking at all schools and what their track records are towards development and their programs and their education offerings."
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Post by OldHoyafan on Feb 11, 2014 10:05:11 GMT -5
Duke bound by mom's quotes. Just waiting to get the invite.
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