Talos
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Post by Talos on Oct 27, 2014 12:57:29 GMT -5
Also, looks like he's announcing on ESPN, which generally hasn't been great for us... Yeah, we haven't had good luck in the past....and I suspect that would continue because I don't think ESPN would air the commitment of a player going to a team whose conference doesn't play on their network.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Oct 27, 2014 13:00:42 GMT -5
Sheesh! So negative! I don't think he has decided where he's going yet/tipped off ESPN. Now's as good a chance as any to break the espn commit curse! Just let it all play out. On the plus side, we won't have to wait much longer. Hoping he chooses us!
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Oct 27, 2014 14:31:10 GMT -5
Also, looks like he's announcing on ESPN, which generally hasn't been great for us... Yeah, we haven't had good luck in the past....and I suspect that would continue because I don't think ESPN would air the commitment of a player going to a team whose conference doesn't play on their network. I seriously doubt ESPN would be like we want you to announce where you're going on our network, by the way where are you choosing? Oh Georgetown? Nevermind then you can't be on our show. More likely than not the recruits are not required to tell ESPN where they're going before hand.
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Post by beenaround on Oct 27, 2014 15:37:36 GMT -5
Regardless of network, it seems like the kind of kid who wants his decision to be a national event, doesn't come to the Hilltop. Not implying that we would not take one...
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Oct 27, 2014 15:47:09 GMT -5
Maybe the proverbial "first time for everything"? You never know with these young'uns.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Oct 27, 2014 16:20:42 GMT -5
When is he announcing? What time? Can I have a PM, please?
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Post by 1227 on Oct 27, 2014 17:06:27 GMT -5
The reverse LJ: put on GU hat, then switch.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Oct 27, 2014 17:21:03 GMT -5
Maybe the proverbial "first time for everything"? You never know with these young'uns. While it wasn't a huge event like the ones that exist now, Patrick Ewing had an event where he announced he was picking Georgetown. I am not sure if it was televised live at the time, but it was recorded. So we have a precedent to build upon!
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Post by TC on Oct 27, 2014 17:22:57 GMT -5
Maybe the proverbial "first time for everything"? You never know with these young'uns. "It's different this time" always gets you disappointed.
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Post by hoyasaxa18 on Oct 27, 2014 18:10:38 GMT -5
Does anybody have any inklings on how much of a chance we actually have with this guy?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 18:28:25 GMT -5
No idea, got to hand it to PJ and his Father they’ve been fair to all the teams involved.
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Post by MCIGuy on Oct 27, 2014 18:30:37 GMT -5
Does anybody have any inklings on how much of a chance we actually have with this guy? Would it matter? Does it ever matter? Look...without going into too much detail provided by pay sites he really seemed to enjoy his MM visit. Said it went perfect, nothing negative to say about it at all. On Casual Hoya someone posted that when he went to the open practice and asked LJ about Dozier during the autograph session, LJ quickly responded that Dozier is going to choose GU. What does any of this mean? Who knows. Anything positive is typically dismissed by Hoya fans on this board anyway because we keep expecting the worst. Best not to get too high or too low worrying about this. We'll know soon enough it looks like.
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Post by calhoya on Oct 27, 2014 18:39:04 GMT -5
If the kid is straight with the coaches, I think it is all anyone can reasonably ask. This is the biggest decision in his young life and he is entitled to enjoy every moment. As to what kind of kids come to Georgetown or choos the Hoyas, I think that there is no way to develop much of a profile. We have had all kinds of kids. I suspect that no one would consider Iverson to be that type of kid today. The same is probably true of Victor Page, Whittington, Josh Smith and any number of others--remember Michael Graham--who came with questions surrounding their decision to attend.
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Post by CaliHoya on Oct 27, 2014 18:44:12 GMT -5
I feel like Georgetown has put a great foot forward and done all it can. PJ seems to be a great fit for Gtown and vice versa. That being said, there are also a lot of things out of our control: 1) Louisville has the final visit, and there is always a bias towards the most recent visit 2) ACC teams have an advantage if PJ wants to come by home once a year. The Big East gets an advantage for kids from DC, Philly, NYC, Chicago because of this, but unfortunately, we don't get down to South Carolina.
Obviously, these two points can be overcome (see LJ Peak). I hope we get him!
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Post by hoyazeke on Oct 27, 2014 18:45:09 GMT -5
Don't know who PJ is going to pick but I'm more worried about the last school. L'Ville plays a brand of basketball that just looks fun to me. I'm a Gtown fan and I know all of the negative press about the O isn't true but we don't play like L'Ville. I don't see JT3 putting up with russdiculous..... PJ isn't like Russ but it's not hard to imagine how L'Ville is going to sell him on the freedom to just play. Fundamentally Kel is twice the player that Russ is but Russ is the one that got drafted. Hopefully PJ makes a decision that he wants to go to the school that will improve his game.....fingers crossed
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Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 27, 2014 19:11:28 GMT -5
Don't know who PJ is going to pick but I'm more worried about the last school. L'Ville plays a brand of basketball that just looks fun to me. I'm a Gtown fan and I know all of the negative press about the O isn't true but we don't play like L'Ville. I don't see JT3 putting up with russdiculous..... PJ isn't like Russ but it's not hard to imagine how L'Ville is going to sell him on the freedom to just play. Fundamentally Kel is twice the player that Russ is but Russ is the one that got drafted. Hopefully PJ makes a decision that he wants to go to the school that will improve his game.....fingers crossed I love Markel, but he's not as good a player as Russ Smith is. He was more efficient than Markel while using 50% more possessions. He was very possibly the best player in college basketball last year. He created and converted offense at a rate most players never come near. Markel was a heckuva shooter and found ways to get his shot, but he simply wasn't as dynamic as Smith as creating offense out of nothing.
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Post by tashoya on Oct 27, 2014 19:19:56 GMT -5
Don't know who PJ is going to pick but I'm more worried about the last school. L'Ville plays a brand of basketball that just looks fun to me. I'm a Gtown fan and I know all of the negative press about the O isn't true but we don't play like L'Ville. I don't see JT3 putting up with russdiculous..... PJ isn't like Russ but it's not hard to imagine how L'Ville is going to sell him on the freedom to just play. Fundamentally Kel is twice the player that Russ is but Russ is the one that got drafted. Hopefully PJ makes a decision that he wants to go to the school that will improve his game.....fingers crossed I love Markel, but he's not as good a player as Russ Smith is. He was more efficient than Markel while using 50% more possessions. He was very possibly the best player in college basketball last year. He created and converted offense at a rate most players never come near. Markel was a heckuva shooter and found ways to get his shot, but he simply wasn't as dynamic as Smith as creating offense out of nothing. Agree. Also, don't forget that he didn't get his nickname for no reason. It was partly for his boneheaded decisions at times but more so because of the ridiculous shots and plays he could pull off. Not to mention, there are very few guys that could stay in front of him. He really taxed the opposing D. Markel was a very good shooter so the D would have to key on him but not like with Russ. Two very different players.
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Post by hoyazeke on Oct 27, 2014 21:07:43 GMT -5
We have to agree to disagree. A lot of his being more efficient has to do with getting layups from pressing. If Pitino benched him, he would have transferred from Gtown. And I guess you guys didn't read when I said FUNDAMENTALLY.....
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Post by blueandgray on Oct 27, 2014 21:14:34 GMT -5
Does anybody have any inklings on how much of a chance we actually have with this guy? At one time we had a very good shot with him. This was before any of his visits however and before Louisville got heavily involved.
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Post by tashoya on Oct 27, 2014 21:34:52 GMT -5
We have to agree to disagree. A lot of his being more efficient has to do with getting layups from pressing. If Pitino benched him, he would have transferred from Gtown. And I guess you guys didn't read when I said FUNDAMENTALLY..... I read it. It's just a very vague point. What fundamentals? And Russ scored off of pressing because he could. Markel couldn't. Russ is faster with the ball than most guys are without it. Markel isn't. They're vastly different players. Markel is a facilitator and shooter and Russ is a scorer. With regard to putting up with Russ, Pitino had his own issues with that too. I'm not sure what Russ Smith has to do with either Markel or Dozier but I get your point about watching Louisville play. It's obviously more wide open. That said, it's not like our offense can't accommodate a pure scorer. Hopefully, we see a bit of that with LJ sooner than later. Having said that, the way Louisville plays D isn't the most enticing for recruits. It's not that dissimilar (at times) than the way Big John's team played it. That's not fun for the guys doing it but, as we've seen, it can be really effective. It really is an individual choice. I've never been a high-level recruit so I can't pretend to know crap about crap. The NBA does draft on upside and exposure is important. Juxtapose that with the scenario in which the kid has a really good shot of being a pro regardless of the school he attends. Wouldn't you want to be a better rounded player entering the draft? After all, outside of the top draft spots, the second contract is where one really sees the difference. Be Hasheem Thabeet or be Roy Hibbert?
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