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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 24, 2005 21:26:27 GMT -5
Too many TOs and not enough stops in the second half. Foul trouble for Green and Bowman played a big role too. Also continued the streak of losses when the Hoyas let the tempo of the game get out of control and the opponent score over 65 points. Nice run while it lasted. Great season - who would have predicted this? WaPo: Hoyas Come Up Short in Loss to Gamecocks South Carolina 69, Georgetown 66www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A64388-2005Mar24.html
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Post by hoyahoyasaxa on Mar 24, 2005 21:31:39 GMT -5
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Post by SoCalHoya on Mar 24, 2005 21:32:04 GMT -5
Even though the foul numbers are always skewed during close games, mid-way through the 2nd we had like 8 fouls to their 2.
Oh well. That happens, especially on the road. Very much looking forward to next year. Great job Hoyas, both team and coach! Let's hope the changes both on and off the court III has helped introduce this year carry on and spark more changes for the better in the future!!!!
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Post by YB on Mar 24, 2005 21:33:22 GMT -5
I hate South Cacalacky.
No, really.
Anyway, as Dan said, too many TOs, too few stops. We were 17-0 this season when holding our opponents to under 61 points- but only 2-13 when above that. It proved fatal tonight.
I hope they work on defense and rebounding over the summer.
Good work this year, guys... let this loss stick in your craw a bit and motivate you to push harder next year.
Hoya Saxa.
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Post by ShimmyJr on Mar 24, 2005 21:35:41 GMT -5
we have a lot of holes...lets hope that we can fix this up in the offseason and our incoming class can help with our horrifying rebounding situation...
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Post by Bando on Mar 24, 2005 21:35:44 GMT -5
Is there a word in Klingon for "freaking Hoyas?" Oh yes, "Gaaarrgh!"
Seriously though, this game should have sealed the deal on the whole "should Owens come back" question. He single-handedly kept us in this game.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 24, 2005 22:30:58 GMT -5
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Post by lichoya68 on Mar 24, 2005 22:32:52 GMT -5
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Post by Simian Prime on Mar 24, 2005 22:57:03 GMT -5
They just mentioned Ashanti and Brandon during the AZ okst game. One of the players went to the same HS.
FYI only...pretty Bball geeky, huh...
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Post by FLHoya on Mar 24, 2005 23:04:39 GMT -5
One of my regrets from this year doing recaps is that I never patented a phrase (in the tradition of "Good Brandon/Bad Brandon" and "Kurt Shirts") to describe the period in every game where we go through a scoring drought. Always the same thing--too much tedious passing with no aggressive moves, a reliance on three point jump shooting to the exclusion of everything else, a few too many silly turnovers on pressure, and a sudden defensive lapse or two.
I want to say something like "The Lull"--but it seems like something of this nature should have a Spanish name for some reason. Any suggestions?
The tough part is looking at the mini stat sheet on the legal pad I keep during games. In the side margin, I write down the score at every timeout/TV timeout. And there's sure enough a part today in the middle of the second half (11:53-3:05) where the Georgetown side goes: 47, 47, 47, 49, 52, 52. Six point lead to eight point deficit, 19-5 run.
And on preliminary glance, it seems we had 14 3-pt FGs for the game to only 8 2-pt FGs. And in the second half, that disparity was 7 to 3. One of those games that perplexes you when you apply the test I sometimes talk about: If you were to take one thing from this game that we did on offense and say--"If we do THIS next time and in the future, we'll be successful"--what would it be?
The problem is, you can't count on Darrell Owens to go for 26 every night and be hitting from everywhere in the Palmetto State. Next year, I'm hoping to see the other half of the Princeton-style offense get broken in a little bit--I still believe the notion that it takes more than a full year to learn fully.
Now for anyone who doesn't believe the NIT gives you something valuable, I slightly disagree. This was useful in the sense that we got to play a major conference team on their home floor in an elimination game with a good intensity level. When you consider that next year we're supposedly playing at Illinois and at Michigan--tough arenas both. And further, have the chance of playing in "new" road arenas in Marquette, Depaul, Cincinnati, and Lousiville--NIT or high NCAA teams all--this is the kind of "exam question" we're going to see a bunch in coming years. And we're going to need to draw on this experience next February, let's say, when we're in Chicago with a 6 point lead on the Blue Demons with 11 minutes to go in front of 15,000 Depaul fans. And yes, we're going to need to close it out that next time.
Looking forward to those games...and to next season. Fun time this year...better times ahead.
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Post by CO_Hoya on Mar 24, 2005 23:29:23 GMT -5
I want to say something like "The Lull"--but it seems like something of this nature should have a Spanish name for some reason. Any suggestions? El No-nõ
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Post by YB on Mar 24, 2005 23:33:12 GMT -5
La "Nada".
El Gran Zero.
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Post by nodak89 on Mar 24, 2005 23:42:24 GMT -5
"El Schneido"
"Lapso Oopso"
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Post by YB on Mar 24, 2005 23:48:19 GMT -5
I like "El Schneido".
Nodak, if you do come to DC next year, remind me to buy you a beer before a game!
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 25, 2005 3:51:21 GMT -5
I like "El Schneido". Nodak, if you do come to DC next year, remind me to buy you a beer before a game! Me too. For the songs and for choosing me as your surrogate.
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Post by hoyabinx on Mar 25, 2005 5:36:12 GMT -5
Just got back from the game (7 hour drive with 007 and two others). Basically we had problems stopping them defensively when we really needed to. I hate to blame it on the refs but this was the worst officiated game I have witnessed all year. We got a bunch of calls in the first half (no call fouls on TC a couple of times) and they got more in the second half when it REALLY mattered. The bad calls helped their momentum so much its hard to explain. 2 or 3 times there was a contested USC layup and the same ref waited until it didn't go in to call the foul. There were SEVERAL late whistles AFTER the play went bad for the cocks.
That being said. I thought everyone played well on the offensive end. It was clear that we had no inside presence really to contend with. They played good D on Green the whole game so we settled for the outside shot, which was falling obviously.
Other observations:
-The first 30 minutes of the game the crowd was silent, the last 10 it was a fricking madhouse. -They like to say the word "cocks" a lot. -Everytime we shot a 3 the people behind me groaned, which I found funny because we are usually not that much of a threat. -DJ could not miss. The last 3 treys he made were contested. There really wasn't anything USC could do to stop him (except for the first 10 mins of second half where I think he was scoreless). His 4 point play was unreal, shut the crowd up for a bit. -Jeff Green's 3 point attempt towards the end that would have tied it up was a pretty close rim out, I thought it was in. There was no way they were gonna let DJ shoot it as they were in his face the entire time. -The last two games have proven that we need a home court like Mcdonough. Their place was WILD the second half. If that game is played on a neutral court we win by 10, no question (NIT sucks that way), if played at Mcdonough we win by 15. You couldn't hear a thing when they went on their run and it definately affected our players tempo, not much we could do in that regard. It made me salivate for a home court on campus. 007 told me that they were 16-3 at home and 2-10 on the road--there is a reason for that. -they played "New York, New York" by Sinatra after the game. I was sad.
Thats all I remember really. 007 will probably have more insight.TEXT
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 25, 2005 7:15:25 GMT -5
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Post by Hoyagimp68 on Mar 25, 2005 10:08:13 GMT -5
One of my regrets from this year doing recaps is that I never patented a phrase (in the tradition of "Good Brandon/Bad Brandon" and "Kurt Shirts") to describe the period in every game where we go through a scoring drought. Always the same thing--too much tedious passing with no aggressive moves, a reliance on three point jump shooting to the exclusion of everything else, a few too many silly turnovers on pressure, and a sudden defensive lapse or two. I want to say something like "The Lull"--but it seems like something of this nature should have a Spanish name for some reason. Any suggestions? The tough part is looking at the mini stat sheet on the legal pad I keep during games. In the side margin, I write down the score at every timeout/TV timeout. And there's sure enough a part today in the middle of the second half (11:53-3:05) where the Georgetown side goes: 47, 47, 47, 49, 52, 52. Six point lead to eight point deficit, 19-5 run. And on preliminary glance, it seems we had 14 3-pt FGs for the game to only 8 2-pt FGs. And in the second half, that disparity was 7 to 3. One of those games that perplexes you when you apply the test I sometimes talk about: If you were to take one thing from this game that we did on offense and say--"If we do THIS next time and in the future, we'll be successful"--what would it be? The problem is, you can't count on Darrell Owens to go for 26 every night and be hitting from everywhere in the Palmetto State. Next year, I'm hoping to see the other half of the Princeton-style offense get broken in a little bit--I still believe the notion that it takes more than a full year to learn fully. Now for anyone who doesn't believe the NIT gives you something valuable, I slightly disagree. This was useful in the sense that we got to play a major conference team on their home floor in an elimination game with a good intensity level. When you consider that next year we're supposedly playing at Illinois and at Michigan--tough arenas both. And further, have the chance of playing in "new" road arenas in Marquette, Depaul, Cincinnati, and Lousiville--NIT or high NCAA teams all--this is the kind of "exam question" we're going to see a bunch in coming years. And we're going to need to draw on this experience next February, let's say, when we're in Chicago with a 6 point lead on the Blue Demons with 11 minutes to go in front of 15,000 Depaul fans. And yes, we're going to need to close it out that next time. Looking forward to those games...and to next season. Fun time this year...better times ahead. How about "mid-game siesta"
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Mar 25, 2005 10:27:07 GMT -5
Or "Que lastima!"
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Post by SirSaxa on Mar 25, 2005 10:46:16 GMT -5
-but it seems like something of this nature should have a Spanish name for some reason. Any suggestions? How about: "The big Siesta"
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