tonyparker
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Post by tonyparker on Apr 30, 2013 11:19:48 GMT -5
Sounds like Mike Brennan got the AU job, not UVA assistant Williford.
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RBHoya
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Post by RBHoya on Apr 30, 2013 11:42:42 GMT -5
Disappointing. Somehow Coach needs to figure out how to convince more bench players to stick around 4 years (like Bowen, Crawford), so that as Juniors and Seniors they are able to contribute solid minutes. Not sure Bolden would have ever gotten there, and maybe both he and the coaches realized it was a poor match, but would be nice to have a few more wily vets we can feel comfortable going to when our top guys need a blow or are in foul trouble. I assure you that I mean this in the least jerky way possible, but it's 2013 and that's simply not how it works anymore. |
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 30, 2013 11:45:16 GMT -5
One part of me is bummed. I know Bolden was raw and not very good in HS. And perhaps I was dreaming a bit of a Hayes-Bolden frontline at some point, but that would have been nice.
Analytically, though, whether or not it is truly a loss really depends on who takes this scholarship, though. There's an opportunity cost to every player. With Josh Smith now on board for at least one year and possibly two, the chances that Bolden contributes much for three of his four years is relatively low. If he's behind Smith, Hopkins, Hayes and for next year, Lubick, the earliest he may have contributed is senior year. I can see why he bounced and can also see that the chances of him providing a lot of production for the Hoyas was relatively low. He gets a free year of development this way as well.
Taking Bolden was not a mistake in any way that I can tell, though. I can't think of any players we missed in the '12 or '13 class because of lack of scholarships, and he didn't scare anyone off. Taking two developmental guys isn't a bad idea -- you are diversifying; increases your chances one will hit and as this shows, after a year or two, the player who does not show as much development or promise often ends up leaving. Meaning you didn't take two slots for one good output.
He has a good amount of potential and I think he's still got a very long shot at the pros. If he works and develops, he'll be a great zone and pick n roll defender. If he finds a jumper he could find a role somewhere.
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Boz
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Post by Boz on Apr 30, 2013 12:16:17 GMT -5
If he transfers to AU, I'm callin' shenanigans!!!  |
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CAHoya07
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Post by CAHoya07 on Apr 30, 2013 12:20:03 GMT -5
Bummer, but understandable. Just not a lot of room for him in the lineup, with Hayes already seemingly in front of him and Josh Smith coming in midseason. It's too bad we never really able to see him play, so we don't know how much potential he has.
Interested to see where he ends up, wish him the best. Also interested to see what we do with his scholarship.
I hope I'm reading the recruiting table right... so this opens up one possible scholarship to offer for next season? Does Smith count against our limit next season when he comes in mid-season? What is Tyler Adams' situation, and will he continue to count against our limit? A lot of questions...
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SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Apr 30, 2013 12:24:02 GMT -5
Good luck to Bolden. From all accounts a good kid.
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 30, 2013 12:37:27 GMT -5
Bummer, but understandable. Just not a lot of room for him in the lineup, with Hayes already seemingly in front of him and Josh Smith coming in midseason. It's too bad we never really able to see him play, so we don't know how much potential he has. Interested to see where he ends up, wish him the best. Also interested to see what we do with his scholarship. I hope I'm reading the recruiting table right... so this opens up one possible scholarship to offer for next season? Does Smith count against our limit next season when he comes in mid-season? What is Tyler Adams' situation, and will he continue to count against our limit? A lot of questions... 1. Yes. 2. Smith already counts 3. Tyler Adams does not count, by process of logic. |
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chep3
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Post by chep3 on Apr 30, 2013 12:46:44 GMT -5
Wish him well wherever he ends up. It seems like his development flatlined a bit from when we signed him to when he showed up on campus. I think this is probably the best for both sides. He'll get a year to improve and run somewhere more at his level. We'll have a scholarship open for a player who's more likely to be a contributor.
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dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on Apr 30, 2013 12:55:27 GMT -5
HAD to have been pushed out; i mean Brandon was in love with GU and was a great, supportive teammate. If I were his coach, I would work with him. He has talent.
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Post by krukster201 on Apr 30, 2013 12:58:50 GMT -5
Good luck to the young man .. Hope he reaches his potential wherever he lands.
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rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 30, 2013 13:17:16 GMT -5
Isaac, where you at?
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 30, 2013 13:30:58 GMT -5
I'm not really sure why everyone is so eager to get another player on campus earlier. I know he has talent, but I'd rather let him play a lot and develop in HS then come in the next year. |
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skyhoya
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Post by skyhoya on Apr 30, 2013 13:35:42 GMT -5
The same thing happened to Jerelle, coach must have told him that he just wouldn't start according to his mentor. he became CAA POY.
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Post by deacon on Apr 30, 2013 13:36:06 GMT -5
Copeland was originally 2013, so he'd be coming right on time.
We could have a real good team next season if Greg comes back and Smith is indeed eligible for the second semester. Add an instant impact talent like Copeland to the mix and we could be really, really, really good.
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rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 30, 2013 13:48:21 GMT -5
I'm not really sure why everyone is so eager to get another player on campus earlier. I know he has talent, but I'd rather let him play a lot and develop in HS then come in the next year. Because he was originally 2013 and unlike Domingo he is ready to play now. Plus, being around Greg for the year would be helpful. |
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Post by This Just In on Apr 30, 2013 14:09:18 GMT -5
Wish Brandon Bolden the best of luck, but this rumor was out there for awhile...even think skyhoya mentioned it last week that Brandon Bolden was planning on transferring and some posters questioned it. When you are stuck at the end of the bench and cannot crack the top PT rotation, you have to look out for yourself. Few players want to go the Henry Sims route and wait till there senior year when they see their fellow class mates going pro after their Freshman or Sophmore year. Additional kudos to Brandon Bolden also for cheering the team along during the season. Never once do I remember seeing him sulk on the bench due to the lack of playing time.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 30, 2013 14:22:50 GMT -5
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rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 30, 2013 14:37:57 GMT -5
Additional kudos to Brian Bolden also for cheering the team along during the season. Never once do I remember seeing him sulk on the bench due to the lack of playing time. I don't seem to remember seeing a Brian either |
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rockhoya
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 30, 2013 14:38:10 GMT -5
Additional kudos to Brian Bolden also for cheering the team along during the season. Never once do I remember seeing him sulk on the bench due to the lack of playing time. I don't seem to remember seeing a Brian either |
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Post by This Just In on Apr 30, 2013 14:50:09 GMT -5
Additional kudos to Brian Bolden also for cheering the team along during the season. Never once do I remember seeing him sulk on the bench due to the lack of playing time. I don't seem to remember seeing a Brian either For some reason always think Brian Bolden instead of Brandon Bolden |
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