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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 23, 2013 23:15:05 GMT -5
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 23, 2013 23:34:42 GMT -5
JTIII is a good man. I will ride with him where ever he takes us. I would rather have that then win 3 national championships with some scumb bag and a bunch of his mercenaries whose titles will be overturned 10 years from now. |
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Post by wisconsinhoya on Mar 23, 2013 23:41:00 GMT -5
I actually thought of a quote JT III told me back in 2009. I flew in for the 25th anniversary celebration of our 1984 title team. There was a reception the night before we hosted Marquette. It was like mid to late February. JT II and JT III both spoke at the reception for the 1984 team. I had the chance to talk to JT III for a few brief minutes that evening. He told me that we would someday win a National title. I have to trust him. We as a fan base need to support and believe in him.
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Post by gujake on Mar 23, 2013 23:50:17 GMT -5
Interesting that III changed the practice schedule this year to try to give the team fresher legs.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 23, 2013 23:58:50 GMT -5
Jason Reid makes a lot of excellent points in that piece. I give Coach a lot of credit for even doing the interview the day after what had to have been a devastating loss. It's easy to lose sight of what a great year this was and how successful this program has been overall under this coach. I believe he will fix it and we will see another big banner in the near future.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 24, 2013 0:02:34 GMT -5
So much for the theory that there's no such thing as tired legs with college kids...
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 24, 2013 0:10:52 GMT -5
It's great that he believes that. Maybe he should keep it to himself. No need for any Patrick Ewing type of championship predictions. Who is he trying to convince? Us or himself?
I hope deep down he is burning with an overwhelming desire to prove doubters wrong and repair his reputation. I hope he is opened to the possibilities to making the right changes needed to get that championship. I hope he is willing to do everything within legal means to get that second banner. But there's nothing wrong with keeping that goal to one's self. No need to add any more pressure.
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Post by johnnysnowplow on Mar 24, 2013 0:12:51 GMT -5
Interesting that III changed the practice schedule this year to try to give the team fresher legs. The fact that he acknowledges that his teams have continually worn down season after season so he tried something different this year is encouraging. I don't know about anyone else, but I didn't feel at all like "we had our legs" in that game, though. Maybe the next step is he decides to play more guys like some of us here would like him to do. Adapt his style(s) of play to the players he has instead of just ignoring the ones that he doesn't think are good enough to play in his system right now. |
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Post by jwp91 on Mar 24, 2013 0:15:16 GMT -5
I fully support him and trust him to lead our program through both success and challenge.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Mar 24, 2013 0:19:05 GMT -5
I support him all the way. Let's get it done, coach!!!
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 24, 2013 0:20:53 GMT -5
I don't agree there is any need to "repair his reputation." Reid's article makes a compelling case for how good that reputation actually is notwithstanding the past few NCAA tournament results. As for publicly stating his belief that he will win a national championship at Georgetown, he has done that since that 1984 event and before. I don't read his comments as trying to convince either himself or anyone else of that and I believe he will solve the NCAA puzzle soon.
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Post by MCIGuy on Mar 24, 2013 0:59:29 GMT -5
I don't agree there is any need to "repair his reputation." Reid's article makes a compelling case for how good that reputation actually is notwithstanding the past few NCAA tournament results. As for publicly stating his belief that he will win a national championship at Georgetown, he has done that since that 1984 event and before. I don't read his comments as trying to convince either himself or anyone else of that and I believe he will solve the NCAA puzzle soon. That's fine. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. My opinion is that his rep has taken another hit because what people remember is how you did in the post season/the NCAA tournament. To many in the media (TV, radio, newspapers, internet/blogs) and probably to most sports fans, III's clean reputation, his program's top ten appearances in the rankings, his graduation rate of his players come a distant second to how his teams perform in the big dance. That's the perception problem he has to deal with. I'm sure he is well respected still by most of his peers but it is only natural for many of his fellow coaches to see him less of a rising or established star even if they continue to think of him as being a good guy. God bless Jason Reid but let's not forget he is the most Hoya friendly guy working in the DC print media. What he did with this column is get the "word out" by reminding the public of all of III's accomplishments. Every coach needs at least one columnist to play the role of public defender for him in the press. That looks to be Reid's role and to be fair he probably believes everything he wrote. Nevertheless this piece was a means to deflect or lessen criticism. How it probably all went down is that Reid got out the word quickly to III's people (maybe Big John) that if III wanted to tell his side of all that's right with the program he would give him that opportunity. Or maybe III did the reaching out. Either way the result is the same. |
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Post by williambraskyiii on Mar 24, 2013 1:03:11 GMT -5
Yawn.
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Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Mar 24, 2013 1:05:52 GMT -5
I don't agree there is any need to "repair his reputation." Reid's article makes a compelling case for how good that reputation actually is notwithstanding the past few NCAA tournament results. As for publicly stating his belief that he will win a national championship at Georgetown, he has done that since that 1984 event and before. I don't read his comments as trying to convince either himself or anyone else of that and I believe he will solve the NCAA puzzle soon. That's fine. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. My opinion is that his rep has taken another hit because what people remember is how you did in the post season/the NCAA tournament. To many in the media (TV, radio, newspapers, internet/blogs) and probably to most sports fans, III's clean reputation, his program's top ten appearances in the rankings, his graduation rate of his players comes a distant second to how his teams perform in the big dance. That's the perception problem he now has to deal with. I'm sure he is well respected still by most of his peers but it is only natural for many of his fellow coaches to see him less of a rising or established star even if they continue to think of him as being a good guy. God bless Jason Reid but let's not forget he is the most Hoya friendly guy working in the DC print media. What he did with this column is get the "word out" by reminding the public of all of III's accomplishments. Every coach needs at least one columnist to play the role of public defender for him in the press. That looks to be Reid's role and to be fair he probably believes everything he wrote. Nevertheless this piece was a means to deflect or lessen criticism. How it probably all went down is that Reid got out the word quickly to III's people (maybe Big John) that if III wanted to tell his side of all that's right with the program he would give him that opportunity. Or maybe III did the reaching out. Either way the result is the same. i don't know - III appearing and announcing such things - while it shows that he is trying to be positive on one hand, it can also give some perceptions to some fans that he is arrogant and he is not willing to change. i prefer that 3 stays away from media until he gets us back to sweet 16 or above to be honest. yes, jt3's reputation got huge hit - after we got stunned, there were articles written about how 3's team continue to underperform - one article said 3 makes bo ryan look like coach K in the tourney. with this year's loss piling on top of our tourney failures in recent memory and especially b/c of the highlight otto has garnered for us by his fine regular season play, it alerted more people in the nation about how we fall apart every season since we made FF. i do hope and have some belief that he will win a national championship eventually, but he wont get there with the current way of doing things. |
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Post by deacon on Mar 24, 2013 1:36:26 GMT -5
It's been said many times on here over the last 24 hours, but coaching reputations are made in March. It's the only reason why Brad Stevens and Shaka Smart are mentioned whenever a major head coaching position becomes available. Do you think Stevens would have even half the reputation he does if he simply led Butler to a few regular season titles in the Horizon conference and first round exits in the tournament year after year? Of course not.
From now until we next play a tournament game, any talk about Coach Thompson's accomplishments at Georgetown will be followed by a "but". He's won three regular season titles at Georgetown, but ... He was named Big East COY last season, but ... He led his 2007 team to the Final Four, but ... His reputation has undoubtedly taken a hit and it won't be repaired until his team shows up and is competitive the next time they appear in the tournament.
We're all pulling for him to get this thing figured out but making a public statement like this makes me think it's getting a little tight around his collar.
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Post by dchead on Mar 24, 2013 2:00:06 GMT -5
After spending an entire day in a sense of disbelief and disapointment, reading this article sounds more than anything like someone tring to convince himself. The further away 2007 appears in the rear view mirror, I can't help but think it was more of an aberration than a foundation. Hoya Saxa.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 24, 2013 5:56:55 GMT -5
I take from this interview that JTIII will prepare next year's team to be deeper by playing and preparing the younger guys/bench more because he acknowledged worrying about tired legs. We shall see.
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Post by vamosalaplaya on Mar 24, 2013 6:48:34 GMT -5
I love this article. "Obviously we need to make changes" he declared. Anyone read that before? I haven't. "I am in this to win the National Championship." Of course have heard versions and variations of that before. But great to hear. This is a guy who showed up when we hadn't been a top 10 team since 1996, declared "we will remind them" and we have made the top 10 on some streak that matches only a few other teams in the country. He didn't start with a rationale of all the other success the program has had - he kept the focus on the goal he just failed to hit.
"Obviously we don't have the answer. . .. . but we will find it." I am not sure what anyone else could answer. There has been large pockets of good basketball discussion on this board the last few days - and there are alot of potential explanations, needless to say. This team beat a lot of good teams with wide varieties of styles of play this year, played a good schedule, and got blown up.
Would we rather have not heard from him? Should the guy act like he is completely panicked and, if so, confide that in a reporter? The article struck a great balance. And the right one.
Great piece, great tone, great stuff. Glad to have him leading the program.
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Post by calhoya on Mar 24, 2013 7:14:54 GMT -5
Two thoughts from reading this:
There are 7 sets of very fresh legs sitting on the end of the Hoya bench almost every game throughout the season. If these kids don't merit any game time then the recruiting philosophy needs to be adjusted. Can any team afford to carry 6-7 "projects?" I don't care if other coaches follow the same philosophy, because their situations are not necessarily comparable. Different offenses, different defenses and different schedules. Of course, tournament time is much too late to insert those extra bodies. That needs to occur against West Carolina and American.
I do not think that the Hoyas will find a better man or a better coach if JT III walked out the door right now. He is a very bright coach and nothwithstanding all the obituaries, has demonstrated that he has the coaching knowledge and skill to win. He is honorable, and for those of us who still care, represents many of the values that we want associated with the school and the program. However, there needs to be a change in approach and I do not think after reading this and other articles that he is there yet.
Being committed to a philosophy is understandable. Being imprisoned by it, is inexcusable. Keep the offense but broaden it. We are not Wisconsin, Harvard, Air Force or Princeton. We are not a mid-major. The Hoyas have been recruiting some incredible athletes and need to use that raw athleticism in the game plan. For example, Bowen has certain skills that do not fit well in this offense. In contrast, his shortcomings are more pronounced when he cannot hit the outside shot. Hopkins can run and has the ability to hit short face-up shots, but this offense has proven way beyond his current abilities. In fact, with Hopkins, Moses, Hayes and Bolden, there is not one post ready to play in this offense. While Lubick has the passing skills, he is so afraid to take a shot that it completely diminishes his effectiveness.
When Whittington was playing I saw more full court and half court pressure on defense and was thrilled. It would have become an incredible weapon with time. I believe that this reflects change in JT III's philosophy. He needs to do more on offense.
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Post by the_way on Mar 24, 2013 7:31:22 GMT -5
Seeing is believing.
And with JTIII, that is definitely the case.
Its really hard to read JTIII or even read between the lines with what he says. He is really close to the vest.
All you can go by is what you see on the court and see the type of talent he brings in from this point forward.
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