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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 23, 2005 9:22:13 GMT -5
To all Wallace haters, what now? I thought he played great last night and really sparked us with some shots and nice steals. Let the team we have now play and stop saying this kid is not legit. I can't wait to have him for another three years.
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Post by aggypryd on Mar 23, 2005 9:42:43 GMT -5
I've always liked Wallace...love his defense...
He just needs to fine-tune some things and he's going to be solid for the next three years...
I thought Roy would dominate last night...gotta work on his confidence and his back-to-the-basket moves...
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Mar 23, 2005 10:14:57 GMT -5
They were too small and quick for Roy. He should have realized that and stepped back and made them shoot it over him. He didn't really match up well last night.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Mar 23, 2005 10:26:29 GMT -5
Has anyone else wondered why the team doesn't feed Roy with passes that are at the level of his head and shoulders? It seems like the passes that he has trouble handling are all zipped in at waist level. Especially a game like last night, why weren't we throwing entry passes that were 7'6" or taller?
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Post by ahoya3 on Mar 23, 2005 10:55:40 GMT -5
Roy was active defensively. I thought he had 4-5 blocks but stats had him at one. He hustled but this team was too short and quick for him to be in there. Wallace was quick, moved the ball, made his aggressvie cuts without the ball(he gets the team moving with these fearless forays through the paint), played good D and shot well.
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 23, 2005 11:01:05 GMT -5
Roy was active defensively. I thought he had 4-5 blocks but stats had him at one. He hustled but this team was too short and quick for him to be in there. Wallace was quick, moved the ball, made his aggressvie cuts without the ball(he gets the team moving with these fearless forays through the paint), played good D and shot well. I felt like our players got stiffed in the box score--I'm pretty sure Roy had more than one block (including a sick TWO HANDED block off the backboard) and Jeff had to have had more than 2 boards. Hmmmm...I'm definately going to be looking for this when I watch the tape. |
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Post by BeantownHoya on Mar 23, 2005 11:55:16 GMT -5
What now?!?! Wallace did have a nice game against a Mid Level - Mid Major that was missing their best player and half the team. My grandmother could have looked good against that horrific defense.
Look im not bashing Wallace, he is what he is. A reliable back up point guard. No more no less. His defense was decent last night against a weaker opponent, but I think most would agree that he had diffculty defensively during BE action.
I guess you didn't want to mention that the 3 games prior to last night he had been 2-12 from the field? Apparently if 1 game in the last 4 was decent all those "haters" should back off.
Again i have nothing against Wallace - especially as a freshman, I am more than happy with his production this year. However you can't argue that he dissapeared for several stretches this year and as a point guard he is average. The only beef I have with Wallace, and it's a small one, is that he is not a playmaker - i have seen very little of him penetrating or setting up a player with the play clock running down or when this team needed a score which I think a good PG should do. AGAIN he is only a freshman and certainly should improve over the next 3 years.
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Post by SaxaCD on Mar 23, 2005 13:47:06 GMT -5
I think Wallace will be a valuable backup point next year. He did an admirable job being pressed into starter duties this year, but I think next year he will really contribute a lot as a solid guy off the bench who's already familiar with the system.
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Post by FOTP on Mar 23, 2005 13:57:18 GMT -5
Agreed 100%. I like Wallace a lot. Nice solid player. He's a good shooter and runs the team pretty well.
Can't wait to see his improvement the big time competition at the guard spots for next year. With Reed, Wallace and Ashanti and the freshmen coming in the day to day competition is going to be pretty intense.
Hopefully everyone raises their games...
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Post by Simian Prime on Mar 23, 2005 14:27:37 GMT -5
I wish that Roy's default move, when he can't pass the ball away, would be to make a move toward the basket. Last night it was so painful to see him get stuck with the ball, and not even take a look at the basket.
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Post by EasyEd on Mar 23, 2005 14:43:56 GMT -5
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Post by DuddingtonHoya on Mar 23, 2005 14:51:36 GMT -5
I'd rather have Wallace than Causey. Obviously JTIII believed enough in him to get him to go to Jersey from Alabama, and then to convince him to move along with him to DC. That says alot about the coach's confidence in the kid.
For better or for worse, Wallace reminds me alot of Braswell, minus the game-ending heart stopping lobs. He's a freshman point... I think we're unintentionally comparing him to Green, who many obviously think is the best freshman in the country.
Also Wallace had a nice backdoor layup last night on a feed from Amadou. If he can repeat that about 3-4 times more a game, who wouldn't be happy?
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Post by ][-][ 0 `/ /-\ 5 on Mar 23, 2005 15:09:42 GMT -5
I'd rather have Wallace than Causey. What did Causey ever do wrong? I thought he was a good player with great potential and I have to say despite the fact that I like Wallace and Causey left, I would still rather have Causey. People seem to slight his playing ability because he left. |
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Post by sweetdaddy on Mar 23, 2005 15:38:48 GMT -5
wallace is just not good enough for this level. i have never, ever seen a poing guard so bad at georgetown. i hate to talk like that about the kid since he's only a freshman but he has shown me absolutely nothing all year. he's not a creator for the rest of the team, he can't defend and he makes bad decisions. i hope and pray we get a REAL point in theere next year, this team has some potential.
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Mar 23, 2005 15:48:24 GMT -5
wallace is just not good enough for this level. i have never, ever seen a poing guard so bad at georgetown. Two words: Drew Hall. Wallace is good, not great, but good. He is also a freshman. Before we say he can't play at this level, let's see if his game progresses in the offseason. If he comes back with the same skill sets at the same level next year we can start saying he's not good enough to be a starter. I think he achieved more than expected this season and IF he is ever a back up point guard, he'd be a damn good one at this moment. |
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Post by Gtown4Life on Mar 23, 2005 15:50:29 GMT -5
i think wallace is a solid guard, but not point guard. He would be better as backup 2 because he has a nice shot and moves well without the ball. Reed should be the point guard next year because i love the way he drives to the hoop and isnt selfish in forcing up a 3. I have seen lots of nice passes and driving and well as tight d from reed all year off the bench.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Mar 23, 2005 15:52:46 GMT -5
wallace is just not good enough for this level. i have never, ever seen a poing guard so bad at georgetown. i hate to talk like that about the kid since he's only a freshman but he has shown me absolutely nothing all year. he's not a creator for the rest of the team, he can't defend and he makes bad decisions. i hope and pray we get a REAL point in theere next year, this team has some potential. Have you only been watching for one year? I've certainly been one who has said that I don't think that Jon will be starting by the BE season next year. Unfortunately his personal weaknesses are the same as our team weaknesses, and as similar players, he and Ashanti are battling for a spot in my mind, and Ashanti will win that. Of course, I could be wrong about all that. Probably am. But that's what I think, and that's pretty pessimistic on the guy. But worst PG ever? Jon brings a sense of calm to the game. He doesn't commit a lot of turnovers and despite not being a true creator, he's not a bad passer and gets his share of good assists. He has nice anticipation and quick hands and gets steals, even if he is overmatched by a lot of BE points. His shot is erratic, but overall he was still the best three point shooter on the team. Is he better suited to being a backup PG? Probably. Come in, maintain the calm, hit the open J and play some opportunistic D. What's wrong with that? He's a valuable player even at my pessimistic projection. And I can't see how he's the worst PG at GU. His numbers aren't much different than Ashanti last year or Bethel the year before and his numbers are much better than Causey or Hall. |
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 23, 2005 15:56:22 GMT -5
i think wallace is a solid guard, but not point guard. He would be better as backup 2 because he has a nice shot and moves well without the ball. Reed should be the point guard next year because i love the way he drives to the hoop and isnt selfish in forcing up a 3. I have seen lots of nice passes and driving and well as tight d from reed all year off the bench. Ray Ray isn't allowed to shoot. That's why he doesn't force up shots. I'm sorry, but if your handing the keys to your team's offense over to Ray "I used to be out of control all the time, but now I'm only out of control half the time" Reed, well, then you're either desperate or stupid. Or both. That being said, Reed has made a lot of improvement on not going into "streetball mode" and has played some pretty good defense. But the guy is just a black hole offensively due to his lack of any kind of shot. |
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Post by Gtown4Life on Mar 23, 2005 15:56:26 GMT -5
theres no chance that he is even close to being the worst pg ever. He was better as a freshman than hall as a sophmore for sure. He has his share of solid passes and can knock down the 3. If he continues to improve i think he can end up as a role player for us and average about 12 points 4 assists a game.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 23, 2005 15:58:58 GMT -5
I don't think any Hoya fan hates Wallace. He's helped in a position lacking depth (we don't have a point guard who can score and playmake for 35 mins/game). Who can blame him for that?
That said, one game does not a player make. Last night he was playing against an average opponent, which was depleted by injuries, and in his home court (where he practices). In the last two months of his first BE season, Wallace showed a lack of confidence in his shot, his dribbling and playmaking. Next year, I expect Wallace to be a solid contributor, but not a starter, by the end of the season.
In regards to Causey, we'll never know, but maybe Causey was over his head playing in the BE. The numbers he put up at GU and this season are too drastically different.
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