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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2012 20:43:22 GMT -5
Mods Fell free to put this wherever it needs to be.. So The Lakers are about to start using the Princeton.. At 33 years old, Bryant needs edges this season, and the prospect of returning to the discipline of an offensive system in the post-Phil Jackson era holds appeal. “It’s a great offense,” Bryant told Yahoo! Sports. "It’s exactly what we need. It takes us back to being able to play by making reads and reacting to defenses. It takes a great deal of communication, but that’s where we’re at our best: Reading and reacting as opposed to just coming down and calling sets. Calling sets make you vulnerable. “There’s so many threats, so many options, it’s very tough to defend. Against the type of defenses that teams play nowadays, they load up on one side and are constantly coming with help from the weak side. The Princeton offense makes it very, very tough to lock in on one particular player. “From my experience, those types of principles – ball movement, changing sides on the floor, everybody being involved – those are championship principles. That’s championship DNA.” sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--kobe-bryant-goes-back-to-school--lakers-switching-to-princeton-offense.html;_ylt=AqCmo3i_PoGnK7p5i6CXe3K8vLYF;_ylu=X3oDMTRrcDByaGV1BG1pdANMSVNUUyBNaXhlZCBMaXN0IE5CQSBFeHBlcnRzBHBrZwM1ZDk2YWYwNC00MmZkLTM5ZDEtOTYzNy01ZTJkZmE5NjhlMTEEcG9zAzEEc2VjA01lZGlhQkxpc3RNaXhlZExQQ0FUZW1wBHZlcgM2MmZiZWRlMy1kYTk3LTExZTEtYmZjZi0yZjhjYjRkNzk4NmU-;_ylg=X3oDMTFoNjVvZWVyBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANuYmEEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3Can’t hurt recruiting that one of the NBA’s greatest players wants to play in our offense…
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Post by hoyaatheart55 on Jul 30, 2012 21:24:09 GMT -5
I agree. Sort of like free advertisement for our offense
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 30, 2012 22:04:11 GMT -5
I hope we have that on tape and make it Exhibit #1 for every single recruit we talk to, or even Think about!
Thank You KOBE!
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jul 30, 2012 22:39:20 GMT -5
We should change the title to Laker to run the Georgetown offense
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Post by MassHoya on Jul 31, 2012 6:37:08 GMT -5
+1
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Post by SirSaxa on Jul 31, 2012 8:13:02 GMT -5
We should change the title to Laker to run the Georgetown offense Better yet for recruits, Georgetown runs the Laker offense
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Post by Boz on Jul 31, 2012 8:24:08 GMT -5
Does this mean the Lakers are going to bow out in the first two rounds of the playoffs the next few years?
;D
(Sorry, I couldn't resist. Had to do it. If I don't laugh about it....I'll cry).
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Post by Filo on Jul 31, 2012 8:31:40 GMT -5
Does this mean the Lakers are going to bow out in the first two rounds of the playoffs the next few years? ;D (Sorry, I couldn't resist. Had to do it. If I don't laugh about it....I'll cry). I also feel a coming groundswell of complaints about the inadequacy of the Staples Center.
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Post by biggmanu on Jul 31, 2012 9:04:22 GMT -5
Can't picture Nash in a princeton
or being anywhere near as good as my man Jonathan Wallace
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2012 9:51:15 GMT -5
We should change the title to Laker to run the Georgetown offense Ask and ye shall receive… ;D
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Post by nychoya3 on Jul 31, 2012 9:53:47 GMT -5
What they end up running will bear only the vaguest resemblance to the traditional Princeton Offense, but stuff like this will hopefully help convince recruits that "Princeton Offense" is not shorthand for "slow down offense run by unathletic teams." It's some principles that are applied in all sorts of NBA teams, among them plenty of motion and multi-skilled players at all spots on the floor.
I also am somewhat confused about what they do with Nash. He needs the ball and he needs to run the pick and roll. He's an amazing shooter as well, but it seems like a waste to reduce him to that alone.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Jul 31, 2012 9:54:41 GMT -5
What they end up running will bear only the vaguest resemblance to the traditional Princeton Offense, but stuff like this will hopefully help convince recruits that "Princeton Offense" is not shorthand for "slow down offense run by unathletic teams." It is shorthand for "the best players want to win championships."
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Post by tashoya on Jul 31, 2012 10:02:52 GMT -5
Make up the t-shirt!
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Post by DudeSlade on Jul 31, 2012 12:16:26 GMT -5
I actually don't think it's that confusing how the Lakers will use Nash. As Kobe said, by playing off reads and reactions to the defense rather than sets, it allows the team to take advantage of their exceptionally high basketball IQ plus some of their grounding in the triangle. Kobe, Pau, and Nash are 3 of the highest basketball IQ players in the NBA (probably highest IQ period, but I'll stick to basketball). Bynum, by all accounts despite some immaturity is also an intelligent basketball player. This gives them the freedom to use that intelligence.
It also allows them to take advantage of all of their offensive assets. A pick-and-roll Jerry Sloan or high octane Mike D'Antoni offense would only benefit two guys on the current Lakers: Nash & Gasol. In the Georgetown, the High-Low post play of Gasol & Bynum (or Howard) could be deadly. The marksmanship of Nash will be accentuated from the outside (remember he's one of the top all-around shooters out there). The playmaking of Kobe & Nash will be freed up for their creativity, not trying to hit set spots.
Don't fall into the trap that other schools use against us recruiting PGs and think the Georgetown offense doesn't allow PGs to drive, create, and dish or score. We just haven't had a lot of those type players, but Chris Wright when healthy and in control did a very good job of this. Austin Freeman created a lot of mid-range jumpers for himself out of that offense (a favorite shot of Kobe's). We will likely see more ballhandling on the part of Nash & Kobe than we are used to seeing in our Georgetown sets, and probably less by the center (Bynum), but Gasol fits our high post creator role about as well as any current NBA player. And lest I forget, Artest, I mean Metta World Peace, is a solid spot up shooter, not by any means on the move, but when set, he hits shots at a high clip no matter how ugly they look and he should get plenty of those shots in this offense with Nash & Kobe & Gasol creating and reading the defense.
So all in all, is it the ideal offense for Nash? No. But when you consider all the pieces on that team and how they fit together, I think it's the best offense for them collectively and gives enough freedom to let them individually do what they do best -- the same that can be said for the offense at Georgetown. My question is whether they can learn it fast enough to challenge for the NBA championship this year -- we all have seen it take a year or so for our guys to fully grasp it and run it well.
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Post by nychoya3 on Jul 31, 2012 12:20:15 GMT -5
All I'm saying is that Nash's bread and butter has been the pick and roll for his whole career, and if there's one thing I don't associate with the Princeton offense, it's pick and roll basketball. But then I'm not claiming to be an expert so perhaps it can be worked in. As you said, Nash et al. will make it work.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jul 31, 2012 12:51:41 GMT -5
No matter what offense they claim to be running, Kobe will still want the ball for the last 10 seconds, so he can heave up a 28 footer while double teamed.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Jul 31, 2012 13:16:36 GMT -5
No matter what offense they claim to be running, Kobe will still want the ball for the last 10 seconds, so he can heave up a 28 footer while double teamed. And then blame Gasol
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Post by Ottomatic on Jul 31, 2012 15:05:12 GMT -5
But will this actually help recruiting?
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Post by DudeSlade on Jul 31, 2012 17:55:55 GMT -5
ottomatic, i would hope so. If the Lakers successfully utilize the offense, great players at every position can see what the possibility is for them within the Georgetown offense, not just at Georgetown but at the elite level of the NBA. If the knock in recruiting was that the Georgetown offense was overly complicated or restricted players or kept them from developing or putting up numbers or getting noticed by the NBA or whatever the myriad knocks are, then I don't see how a player could look at this development and not think that our offense projects well to the NBA and could help them get there. I'll leave it to our recruiting gurus, though, to tell us whether there's any real fallout, but I have to think it helps debunks whatever myths are out there.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jul 31, 2012 18:02:28 GMT -5
Sure won't hurt
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