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Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Jul 31, 2012 19:10:02 GMT -5
But will this actually help recruiting? won't help but wont hurt
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Post by hoyarooter on Jul 31, 2012 20:16:54 GMT -5
I tend to agree with Cosmo Topper (dating myself, I know).
I think the Lakers' use of the offense will only help if we can point to our own offense in action and use our performance to refute the charges. Otherwise, what the Lakers do won't translate at all, as opposing coaches will say that the manner in which the Lakers use the offense isn't relevant to us, just as they likely said that the manner in which Sacramento used the offense wasn't relevant to us.
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Post by kghoya on Jul 31, 2012 21:52:41 GMT -5
You know what will really help? Starks or DSR making it to the NBA.
A guard has to make it. Until then, the idea that the Hoyas offense holds back guard play will be out there.
To be fair, I don't think there's a guard that was on track to play in the league only to have Georgetown's style of play do him in. Some might argue Wright, but I don't think so.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jul 31, 2012 22:49:48 GMT -5
You know what will really help? Starks or DSR making it to the NBA. A guard has to make it. Until then, the idea that the Hoyas offense holds back guard play will be out there. To be fair, I don't think there's a guard that was on track to play in the league only to have Georgetown's style of play do him in. Some might argue Wright, but I don't think so. Wright and Freeman as McD's AAs in a class where a ton of guards made it to the league has not been a strong endorsement of the Georgetown system.
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Post by jgalt on Aug 1, 2012 10:30:26 GMT -5
You know what will really help? Starks or DSR making it to the NBA. A guard has to make it. Until then, the idea that the Hoyas offense holds back guard play will be out there. To be fair, I don't think there's a guard that was on track to play in the league only to have Georgetown's style of play do him in. Some might argue Wright, but I don't think so. Wright and Freeman as McD's AAs in a class where a ton of guards made it to the league has not been a strong endorsement of the Georgetown system. Eh. Like you said a ton of guards made it from that class. But if you go back and look at the recruiting ranking from their class all the guards who made it were ranked higher than Austin and Chris. Think they both had a lot to work on to make it to the league. Did Gtown help them make the league? No, obviously. But I dont think either were locks. They both suffered significant injury/illness during their careers that didnt help the cause.
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Post by kghoya on Aug 1, 2012 12:27:00 GMT -5
I don't understand why Wright was a McD AA. He was ranked 55th by Rivals. Yeah, I know recruiting services aren't the end all be all but that seems pretty low to make the game.
Austin, on the other hand, was a five star stud coming out of DeMatha. That being said, he seems to be a tweener for the NBA. Actually he was a tweener here too
Even without the medical setback, I just don't think there's a spot for Austin in the pros.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2012 9:16:44 GMT -5
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Oct 30, 2012 22:14:55 GMT -5
The new Lakers offense is sending chills down my spine.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Oct 30, 2012 22:16:58 GMT -5
Pau and Nash are gonna have ridiculous assist numbers this year.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Oct 30, 2012 22:29:12 GMT -5
Yeah Lakers look great running the Georgetown offense. Wish Celtics would use it. Too much standing around. No ball movement. Green did not get enough touches.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Oct 30, 2012 22:37:46 GMT -5
Lets hope they can make it to the finals and showcase the benefits of the offense to the entire world.
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Post by jester on Oct 30, 2012 23:27:59 GMT -5
Agree Green did not look good in box score but really much of the time he was on the floor they weren't even looking to given him the ball.
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Post by CaliHoya on Oct 31, 2012 0:36:04 GMT -5
Wow, Chuck and Kenny really bashed the Princeton offense on Inside the NBA. Definitely showing the stigma is alive and well. I guess those who want some positive evidence about the Princeton should start hoping the Lakers do better.
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Post by gtowndynasty on Oct 31, 2012 0:42:41 GMT -5
Yea they are ALL squatting on the PO, citing that it has never won any type of championship and just doesnt suit the NBA game.
ITs only game 1 and the Lakers will undoubtedly improve, but their lack of Offense will be the talk of opening night and the PO is being blamed. As someone who watched the game, it did look terrible and probably should not be a primary O in the NBA.
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Post by crashdavis on Oct 31, 2012 1:29:29 GMT -5
The Princeton Offense was not the problem....the problem was the players running it. There were times when it seemed like only 3-4 players knew what was going on and other times where those who weren't getting it seemed frustrated and did their own thing.
One thing about the offense is if someone is out of place or not on the same page, the spacing and/or continuity can get totally screwed up and cause the offense to stagnate. IMO, the Lakers need to find a balance by using Princeton Principles while also utilizing their new pieces in Howard and Nash effectively. Nash is the type of player who can run any offense, but he is most effective with the ball in his hand running the pick and roll. They need to find a way to get him in positions to be able to run the pick and roll with Pau, preferably without having to reset the offense halfway through a possession. With Howard, they just need to keep him around the bucket as much as possible.
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Post by hoyas big supporter on Oct 31, 2012 7:23:57 GMT -5
It looked good early but as the game wore on the players lost discipline and played the way they're accustomed to playing. Like Mike Brown said, if they're actually committed to it they will get much better in time.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Oct 31, 2012 8:12:10 GMT -5
I only watched the first half and it was looking great then.
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Post by blueandgray on Oct 31, 2012 9:50:32 GMT -5
Barkley's words: "You want your accountant from Princeton, not your players or your offense".
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Post by nychoya3 on Oct 31, 2012 10:03:02 GMT -5
Whatever. They will end up winning around 55 games this year.
I will say Nash looked pretty lost. Didn't know when to run the pick and roll and generally was reduced to playing like Steve Blake (i.e. shooting spot up threes) except he's a worse defender. He will have better games but to me he's the one guy I question how this whole thing works. His career has basically been based on running the pick and roll better than anyone and being a great shooter. He's being asked to do something very different right now.
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 31, 2012 11:18:58 GMT -5
The Princeton Offense was not the problem....the problem was the players running it. There were times when it seemed like only 3-4 players knew what was going on and other times where those who weren't getting it seemed frustrated and did their own thing. One thing about the offense is if someone is out of place or not on the same page, the spacing and/or continuity can get totally screwed up and cause the offense to stagnate. IMO, the Lakers need to find a balance by using Princeton Principles while also utilizing their new pieces in Howard and Nash effectively. Nash is the type of player who can run any offense, but he is most effective with the ball in his hand running the pick and roll. They need to find a way to get him in positions to be able to run the pick and roll with Pau, preferably without having to reset the offense halfway through a possession. With Howard, they just need to keep him around the bucket as much as possible. This
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