TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Jan 4, 2015 0:59:39 GMT -5
#82 RSCI in the class of 2013. By comparison, Joshua Smith was #20 RSCI in his class. I'm fine with this kid if we get him, as he'd be a nice depth piece in the frontcourt. But he's not a game changer... No offense but those numbers mean almost nothing (anymore). It's all about fit when transferring, the kid is not without contributal skills. The Hoyas starting center next year will almost assuredly be a freshman. His backup will be a senior that hasn't shown much of anything in three years. Depth at center is a game change for next year. Govan could be really good, but so we really want Hayes as the only other option? And what if Hayes or Govan aren't available? Copeland as the backup center? That'd be a fantastic way to waste a really talented roster.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jan 4, 2015 9:03:33 GMT -5
The Hoyas starting center next year will almost assuredly be a freshman. His backup will be a senior that hasn't shown much of anything in three years. Depth at center is a game change for next year. Govan could be really good, but so we really want Hayes as the only other option? And what if Hayes or Govan aren't available? Copeland as the backup center? That'd be a fantastic way to waste a really talented roster. Exactly the point. Look at yesterday's game. Smith gets three first half fouls, DSR is not on his game, but we got major contributions from multiple guys. Next year we have very little depth at the 4/5. We desperately need some size up front.... and Agau brings that, along with skills and a year and half experience in a top ten program. He'd be available to play at the start of the next BE season. Yes, we need him. No, he is not a Top Ten recruit who will single handedly change the program, but I'd sure like to add him to our roster.
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dreamhoya
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Post by dreamhoya on Jan 4, 2015 9:31:24 GMT -5
I thine he'd be a great peice to this team; Jeff Green type; add him to this team's crop and the Hoyas would be even better.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jan 4, 2015 9:49:40 GMT -5
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Post by prhoya on Jan 4, 2015 11:56:11 GMT -5
Then he clearly saw how much pt is available at the C and hiw strong the rest of the cast will be. Not a bad situation for a C looking for a place to excel...
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on Jan 4, 2015 12:38:24 GMT -5
I thine he'd be a great peice to this team; Jeff Green type; add him to this team's crop and the Hoyas would be even better. I find the idea of Agau transferring here intriguing, too, but fail to see the the Jeff Green comparison. His recruiting profile coming out of high school characterized him as an inside presence with good rebounding instincts, but raw offensive skills. Doubt he has developed his game to the extent we would see him as even close to brother Green in ability, someone who could play with his back to the basket, but also face up and shoot with accuracy out to the three point arc as well. But hope springs eternal.... Get him here and coach him up!
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Post by wnyhoya on Jan 4, 2015 12:49:48 GMT -5
Blueandgray any feeling on how the visit went?
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Post by daymondmyles on Jan 4, 2015 13:05:36 GMT -5
I see him more as a Ben Bentil player which isn't a bad thing. Don't think he's raw per se, just not highly skilled. In other words, he can do some things on offense unlike Moses who was really raw but you are not going to see him make Jeff Green moves either. That being said, he can post up and finish, pass well enough, defend and rebound and hit a jumper occasionally. He can be a piece I think.
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Post by dreamhoya on Jan 4, 2015 13:47:07 GMT -5
I thine he'd be a great peice to this team; Jeff Green type; add him to this team's crop and the Hoyas would be even better. I find the idea of Agau transferring here intriguing, too, but fail to see the the Jeff Green comparison. His recruiting profile coming out of high school characterized him as an inside presence with good rebounding instincts, but raw offensive skills. Doubt he has developed his game to the extent we would see him as even close to brother Green in ability, someone who could play with his back to the basket, but also face up and shoot with accuracy out to the three point arc as well. But hope springs eternal.... Get him here and coach him up! ...look at the tape...that's what my eyes saw.
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Post by dreamhoya on Jan 4, 2015 13:48:23 GMT -5
I see him more as a Ben Bentil player which isn't a bad thing. Don't think he's raw per se, just not highly skilled. In other words, he can do some things on offense unlike Moses who was really raw but you are not going to see him make Jeff Green moves either. That being said, he can post up and finish, pass well enough, defend and rebound and hit a jumper occasionally. He can be a piece I think. we'll see. i think he'll develop into a green type. but, i could be wrong.
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Post by daymondmyles on Jan 4, 2015 13:55:22 GMT -5
I don't completely disagree that he could be a Jeff Green type player. It's just that I think we overuse that comparison anytime we see a 6'8ish guy that has a few moves and can pass. I'd like to think he can be that but My guess is he ends up being a much less productive version of Jeff, but hopefully still a piece that plays a role for us.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 14:39:06 GMT -5
8-6 and about 22-25 min a game if he comes here next year… Come next year he will be in his 3rd year of development at a HM school. Even though he didn’t play much at Louisville you can’t tell me going up against Montrezi Harrell everyday in practice didn’t improve his game.
He would fit right into the roll Hopkins plays this year while providing much more upside offensively. Smart kid would be a great get...
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Post by deacon on Jan 4, 2015 15:21:44 GMT -5
8-6 and about 22-25 min a game if he comes here next year… Come next year he will be in his 3rd year of development at a HM school. Even though he didn’t play much at Louisville you can’t tell me going up against Montrezi Harrell everyday in practice didn’t improve his game. He would fit right into the roll Hopkins plays this year while providing much more upside offensively. Smart kid would be a great get... Pretty much.
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 4, 2015 16:20:25 GMT -5
8-6 and about 22-25 min a game if he comes here next year… Come next year he will be in his 3rd year of development at a HM school. Even though he didn’t play much at Louisville you can’t tell me going up against Montrezi Harrell everyday in practice didn’t improve his game. He would fit right into the roll Hopkins plays this year while providing much more upside offensively. Smart kid would be a great get... I'm all for getting Agua but I'm not so sure what kind of player he is.. I can't see him being a 22-25 mpg player next season.. On paper he looks the part and that's why I hope the staff can land him but I can't take anything positive from his time at L'ville.. To me it's a red flag that Pitino allowed him to transfer when he knows Harrell is leaving after this year. This basically means Pitino thinks more of kids like Mathiang, Onuaku, Jaylen Johnson, Mahmoud ect.. The last 3 are all freshmen too.. They're all good prospects but none are proven college contributors..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 17:00:35 GMT -5
8-6 and about 22-25 min a game if he comes here next year… Come next year he will be in his 3rd year of development at a HM school. Even though he didn’t play much at Louisville you can’t tell me going up against Montrezi Harrell everyday in practice didn’t improve his game. He would fit right into the roll Hopkins plays this year while providing much more upside offensively. Smart kid would be a great get... I'm all for getting Agua but I'm not so sure what kind of player he is.. I can't see him being a 22-25 mpg player next season.. On paper he looks the part and that's why I hope the staff can land him but I can't take anything positive from his time at L'ville.. To me it's a red flag that Pitino allowed him to transfer when he knows Harrell is leaving after this year. This basically means Pitino thinks more of kids like Mathiang, Onuaku, Jaylen Johnson, Mahmoud ect.. The last 3 are all freshmen too.. They're all good prospects but none are proven college contributors.. He doesn’t fit their system it was a poor decision from the get go… By next year he will have already been practicing with the team for a year and in his 3rd year at a HM, I’m not worried at all. Here he fills a need at Ville he did not….
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Post by mfk24 on Jan 4, 2015 17:18:26 GMT -5
Mathiang, Onuaku and Mahmoud are all already part of the rotation for the Cards. They're listed at 6'10, 6'10, 7'0. Agau doesn't have the size of these guys and to me it seems like he fits a similar role as the bigger, stronger Mathiang who also has an extra year in Pitino's system under his belt. As a result he just can't crack the roster. He might not come here and be a super star, but we just need a serviceable big who can rebound, finish at the rim, maybe his a 12-15 footer.
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Post by 71hoya on Jan 4, 2015 18:06:15 GMT -5
Does Agau have to commit before 2nd semester this year to be eligible next year in January 2016? In other words, will he be making a decision soon -- next few days?
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Post by njhoya78 on Jan 4, 2015 18:17:02 GMT -5
Generally, as a transfer, he will have to sit out one full academic year before becoming eligible to compete, under present NCAA rules. I would interpret that to mean that if he does not enroll in an institution by the start of the next semester, he will not be eligible at the start of the second semester next season.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Jan 4, 2015 18:18:29 GMT -5
Yes decision would need to be made soon
Not sure exact rules but usually these mid year decisions come quickly
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Post by hoyasaxa18 on Jan 4, 2015 18:47:54 GMT -5
Georgetown's semester starts on Wednesday, it seems unlikely that he could enroll prior to that date.
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