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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 4, 2015 20:03:26 GMT -5
Georgetown's semester starts on Wednesday, it seems unlikely that he could enroll prior to that date. In 2013, Josh Smith's transfer was announced around 1/2/2014. Given that we invited Agau for an official visit, I'm sure there would be no problem getting him enrolled if he chooses to come to Georgetown.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 4, 2015 20:36:51 GMT -5
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Post by kchoya on Jan 4, 2015 20:41:00 GMT -5
Georgetown's semester starts on Wednesday, it seems unlikely that he could enroll prior to that date. Why do you say that? I see no reason why he couldn't enroll in time to start the clock this semester.
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Post by prhoya on Jan 4, 2015 22:49:11 GMT -5
I see him more as a Ben Bentil player which isn't a bad thing. Don't think he's raw per se, just not highly skilled. In other words, he can do some things on offense unlike Moses who was really raw but you are not going to see him make Jeff Green moves either. That being said, he can post up and finish, pass well enough, defend and rebound and hit a jumper occasionally. He can be a piece I think. If he can play/contribute next year (2nd semester), then we do not have the luxury of passing him up.
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Post by tashoya on Jan 4, 2015 23:00:43 GMT -5
I'll go register for his classes for him tomorrow if needed. I was on campus today and it was a ghost town. No lines!
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Post by njhoya78 on Jan 4, 2015 23:24:13 GMT -5
For what it is worth, the Marquette board (muscoop.com) has also been following his transfer closely, because it was rumored that the Golden Eagles were in the mix. There is a poster who reported that Agou's Facebbok page reflects that he is a student at Wichita State. Probably erroneous, but until he announces, who knows?
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Post by tashoya on Jan 4, 2015 23:47:48 GMT -5
For what it is worth, the Marquette board (muscoop.com) has also been following his transfer closely, because it was rumored that the Golden Eagles were in the mix. There is a poster who reported that Agou's Facebbok page reflects that he is a student at Wichita State. Probably erroneous, but until he announces, who knows? I hope it's this:
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Post by matersammich on Jan 5, 2015 6:24:01 GMT -5
For what it is worth, the Marquette board (muscoop.com) has also been following his transfer closely, because it was rumored that the Golden Eagles were in the mix. There is a poster who reported that Agou's Facebbok page reflects that he is a student at Wichita State. Probably erroneous, but until he announces, who knows? I hope their recruiting info is as accurate as their coaching search info.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Jan 5, 2015 6:52:47 GMT -5
FB search reveals two pages with his name but didn't see any shocker references. One page (fan page I think) referred to him still on UL.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 5, 2015 15:41:39 GMT -5
Hard to get excited about a 6'8" kid ranked #82 in his class who couldn't break the rotation at Louisville, is transferring to get more playing time and would only be here for a year and a half. If he was 6'10"+ and could play center, that would be one thing. But from what I can tell, next year's Hoyas have a host of young 6'7" - 6'9" combo forward types (White/Copeland/Cameron/Derrickson), not to mention 3 guys that could ostensibly play the 4/5 in Govan/Hayes/Mourning. I recognize that we'll be losing a lot of height, girth and experience when Smith and Hopkins depart. But I don't see how Agau helps us there. If this kid's point in transferring is to go to a place where he'll be featured more than he was at Louisville, then Georgetown's not a good fit. If his desire is to get a great education and he's willing to be a backup for 1.5 years, then I'm all for adding him. I just don't see the fit, and I certainly don't see anything in his history or highlight films that would suggest he'd be an 8 and 6 guy right away, playing over others his size that are more talented and/or have more time in JT3's system.
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Post by jld on Jan 5, 2015 15:50:25 GMT -5
GU recruited him out of HS so JT3 must think he would fit. Forget Mourning at the 5 next year -- he is a 4 at best. Also, Hayes is a big body, that is it, so another 5 fouls from a guy who practiced at U of L for 1.5 years will not hurt.
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 5, 2015 15:57:44 GMT -5
GU recruited him out of HS so JT3 must think he would fit. Forget Mourning at the 5 next year -- he is a 4 at best. Also, Hayes is a big body, that is it, so another 5 fouls from a guy who practiced at U of L for 1.5 years will not hurt. So what are you projecting Agau to be? He's listed on the Louisville site as 6'8", 230 pounds. Mikael's listed at 6'9", 239 pounds on GUHoyas.com and Josh is obviously enormous. Look, if Agau was 6'10"+, I'd get it. If he's coming and we're planning to use him for "just another 5 fouls" as you put it, cool. I just have a hard time believing that somebody who left his previous school due to lack of playing time is all of a sudden going to get a ton of minutes at the expense of White/Copeland/Cameron/Derrickson.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 15:58:50 GMT -5
Hard to get excited about a 6'8" kid ranked #82 in his class who couldn't break the rotation at Louisville, is transferring to get more playing time and would only be here for a year and a half. If he was 6'10"+ and could play center, that would be one thing. But from what I can tell, next year's Hoyas have a host of young 6'7" - 6'9" combo forward types (White/Copeland/Cameron/Derrickson), not to mention 3 guys that could ostensibly play the 4/5 in Govan/Hayes/Mourning. I recognize that we'll be losing a lot of height, girth and experience when Smith and Hopkins depart. But I don't see how Agau helps us there. If this kid's point in transferring is to go to a place where he'll be featured more than he was at Louisville, then Georgetown's not a good fit. If his desire is to get a great education and he's willing to be a backup for 1.5 years, then I'm all for adding him. I just don't see the fit, and I certainly don't see anything in his history or highlight films that would suggest he'd be an 8 and 6 guy right away, playing over others his size that are more talented and/or have more time in JT3's system. None of the guys mentioned have the type of dedication to rebounding and defending that Akoy Possesses. He would have 2 1/2 years left, left mid semester Soph season.. Derrickson is ranked lower than Akoy out of HS and will be a Freshman. Hard to bring up Akoys ranking and then talk about Derrickson (I love Marcus btw) White and Copeland are going to play regardless and can play 2-4 easily. Cameron is a SF who hasn’t shown much at all and has a totally different skill set than Akoy. All of the guys you mentioned at Center are unproven. Mourning isn’t a Center and wasn’t even a top 200 kid. Govan is a Freshman and Hayes hasn’t shown much of anything in his 3 years only difference is he wasn’t playing behind a Lotto Pick in Montrezl Harrell, he was playing behind Hopkins for most of it We lose 4 rotation players this year 3 of which are well over 20 min a game and a 4th barely under. That’s over 80min up for grabs, lots of minutes available for a kid that’s willing to get his nose dirty Hopefully we find out about 8-6 I don’t see it as much of a stretch Hop gives you 4 and 6. Kid is a better offensive player than Hop would you agree or nah?
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 5, 2015 16:21:58 GMT -5
He won't know our system as well as Hopkins, for sure, but I'm not sure he can't reasonable do a Hopkins impression -- maybe better on the boards, worse on D and less intrusive (good and bad) on O. Then again, he may be Moses 2.0 as well. And I'm not sure that'd be worth it.
We need bodies here. I don't think anyone on the staff wants to go into next year with Govan / Hayes as our only centers. I think Jessie is going to be very good, and wouldn't be shocked to see him good early, but there's no depth there. Even if you believe in Govan and Hayes, an injury is crippling. Players can play spot and situational center but you can't do that for every game and every situation without getting destroyed.
The staff obviously has a good idea of the options we have and if we've offered Agau, I imagine they've looked at the alternatives and think Agau is a good bet.
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Post by TBird41 on Jan 5, 2015 16:24:14 GMT -5
GU recruited him out of HS so JT3 must think he would fit. Forget Mourning at the 5 next year -- he is a 4 at best. Also, Hayes is a big body, that is it, so another 5 fouls from a guy who practiced at U of L for 1.5 years will not hurt. So what are you projecting Agau to be? He's listed on the Louisville site as 6'8", 230 pounds. Mikael's listed at 6'9", 239 pounds on GUHoyas.com and Josh is obviously enormous. Look, if Agau was 6'10"+, I'd get it. If he's coming and we're planning to use him for "just another 5 fouls" as you put it, cool. I just have a hard time believing that somebody who left his previous school due to lack of playing time is all of a sudden going to get a ton of minutes at the expense of White/Copeland/Cameron/Derrickson. Everyone is thinking that Agau would be an upgrade to our current back-up center (which we will need somewhere from 10-20 minutes from, unless we think we can count on Govan to be able to average 35 mpg). And While 6'8 isn't 7 ft, if he's strong/big enough, he's more than big enough to play decent minutes at center. Not to mention that the alternative is hope that Govan doesn't struggle to adjust to college ball and / or that Hayes takes a big step forward from the guy we've seen this year (and that neither of them gets hurt). There aren't any impact big guys still available for the 2015 class and who knows whether there will be a graduate transfer big guy available and interested in playing at Georgetown. So, we're all excited / hoping for Agau because none of us want to see White, Copeland or Derrickson forced to play significant time at center.
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Post by jld on Jan 5, 2015 16:26:15 GMT -5
Hard to get excited about a 6'8" kid ranked #82 in his class who couldn't break the rotation at Louisville, is transferring to get more playing time and would only be here for a year and a half. If he was 6'10"+ and could play center, that would be one thing. But from what I can tell, next year's Hoyas have a host of young 6'7" - 6'9" combo forward types (White/Copeland/Cameron/Derrickson), not to mention 3 guys that could ostensibly play the 4/5 in Govan/Hayes/Mourning. I recognize that we'll be losing a lot of height, girth and experience when Smith and Hopkins depart. But I don't see how Agau helps us there. If this kid's point in transferring is to go to a place where he'll be featured more than he was at Louisville, then Georgetown's not a good fit. If his desire is to get a great education and he's willing to be a backup for 1.5 years, then I'm all for adding him. I just don't see the fit, and I certainly don't see anything in his history or highlight films that would suggest he'd be an 8 and 6 guy right away, playing over others his size that are more talented and/or have more time in JT3's system. None of the guys mentioned have the type of dedication to rebounding and defending that Akoy Possesses. He would have 2 1/2 years left, left mid semester Soph season.. Derrickson is ranked lower than Akoy out of HS and will be a Freshman. Hard to bring up Akoys ranking and then talk about Derrickson (I love Marcus btw) White and Copeland are going to play regardless and can play 2-4 easily. Cameron is a SF who hasn’t shown much at all and has a totally different skill set than Akoy. All of the guys you mentioned at Center are unproven. Mourning isn’t a Center and wasn’t even a top 200 kid. Govan is a Freshman and Hayes hasn’t shown much of anything in his 3 years only difference is he wasn’t playing behind a Lotto Pick in Montrezl Harrell, he was playing behind Hopkins for most of it We lose 4 rotation players this year 3 of which are well over 20 min a game and a 4th barely under. That’s over 80min up for grabs, lots of minutes available for a kid that’s willing to get his nose dirty Hopefully we find out about 8-6 I don’t see it as much of a stretch Hop gives you 4 and 6. Kid is a better offensive player than Hop would you agree or nah?
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Post by jld on Jan 5, 2015 16:27:20 GMT -5
Agau would be a replacement for Hopkins.
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Post by matersammich on Jan 5, 2015 16:32:56 GMT -5
Agau would be a replacement for Hopkins. Yes, YaBoyNyP said it with better detail but as I see it Agau frees up our "young 6'7" - 6'9" combo forward types" rather than competes with them for a position.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 16:39:35 GMT -5
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jan 5, 2015 16:44:42 GMT -5
I agree with what everybody said about Agau adding depth. Obviously, we'd all prefer a 2015 5 star center, but that doesn't exist at the moment, so Agau might be the best we can do. I would also lookout for 5th year senior/graduate transfers in the fall - but there usually aren't many of those out there and we certainly cannot count on someone like Horford becoming available and choosing to come to Georgetown.
Aside from possibly in a small-ball lineup, White and Copeland simply aren't going to play Center. If they get any substantial minutes there, we will not be in good shape. This is another area where Dickerson's defection to Florida hurts. He would have provided much needed depth.
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