Taking a Knee???

[DownTownJoeyBrown]

I think I almost threw up last night after watching Wright take a knee with 2.5 seconds left in the first half. I have never seen anything like it in 25 years of watching basketball.

Seriously Coach? Why in the world would JTIII call off any soft of attempt at a shot? Why not throw the ball down court to see if someone can get off a decent look? At the very least you have to launch a half court shot right?!? I mean, those actually do go in from time to time, especially when you have someone like freeman with clearly visible flames on his fingertips.

Coach, please watch the following. Let your best player put up some sort of attempt!!!



Over the last 3 years JTIII has left me scratching my head far too many times. Is it just me or is he regressing just like our players have? He is making some terrible decisions that seem almost amateur. No timeouts during opponent runs, timeouts during Hoya runs, questionable personnel decisions, etc. etc. Its hard to trust the staff when they make poor decision after poor decision. I certainly hope III can turn in around in the coming years but my confidence in him is at an all time low. He just doesn't look like the same coach out there. Blame the players if you want, but a good coach gets the most out of every guy on his bench, especially as the season progresses. JTIII has gotten less and less over the last 3 years. It just doesn't make any sense.

[superan]

Well you don't want to risk a turnover that would lead to a Touchdown going the other way. Case in point: Dallas @ Washington in week 1 and Green Bay @ Atlanta during the playoffs last week.

Plus, we were getting the second half kickoff anyway.

[guru]

Jan 19, 2011 12:49:00 GMT -5 DownTownJoeyBrown said:

I think I almost threw up last night after watching Wright take a knee with 2.5 seconds left in the first half. I have never seen anything like it in 25 years of watching basketball.

Seriously Coach? Why in the world would JTIII call off any soft of attempt at a shot? Why not throw the ball down court to see if someone can get off a decent look? At the very least you have to launch a half court shot right?!? I mean, those actually do go in from time to time, especially when you have someone like freeman with clearly visible flames on his fingertips.

Coach, please watch the following. Let your best player put up some sort of attempt!!!



Over the last 3 years JTIII has left me scratching my head far too many times. Is it just me or is he regressing just like our players have? He is making some terrible decisions that seem almost amateur. No timeouts during opponent runs, timeouts during Hoya runs, questionable personnel decisions, etc. etc. Its hard to trust the staff when they make poor decision after poor decision. I certainly hope III can turn in around in the coming years but my confidence in him is at an all time low. He just doesn't look like the same coach out there. Blame the players if you want, but a good coach gets the most out of every guy on his bench, especially as the season progresses. JTIII has gotten less and less over the last 3 years. It just doesn't make any sense.

It's just you.

[LeRoyHoya]

I didn't see coach tell Wright to hold it. Actually, I thought coach had a curious look on his face as time expired. If it was Clark, that would have been enough time for the ball off the foot scenario that is becoming frequent.

[alleninxis]

watching it again, I see no instruction from III to Chris to 'take a knee'.

why he chose to do so, who knows.

[btb (Account Inactive)]

Chris hadn't made his mind up on what to do in that moment that's all, no one had anything to do with that except Chris...

[RockawayHoya]

I know a lot of us last night thought exactly what the original post said. The only way you could conceivably think that holding the ball there to let time run out would be a better play is if you thought that the likelihood of us scoring outweighed the likelihood of the other team not only stealing the ball from us, but also scoring themselves. I don't think any reasonable person could make this assertion. Additionally, I guarantee there will be scenarios later on this season where we are going to be put in a similar situation and we NEED a bucket. Why not work on trying a play to go the length of the court in a short amount of time to score?

The timeouts are an entirely other animal in of itself, but also are a more than fair point. We had one timeout at the end of the game last night. Luckily we came back, but if we were down double digits at that point and still had that timeout, I would've been 10x more Editeded off. You don't save timeouts when other teams are going on a huge run against you when you have no idea if you're even going to need it later on. Worry about the now first.

[btb (Account Inactive)]

#sadthread LMAO

[Boz]

As has been pointed out, there were two timeouts during the 19-2 run.

One was called by the coach after SHU scored the first 8 of that run.

The second was a TV timeout a little later in the run.

And if SHU had not folded down the stretch, there's a pretty damn good chance we would have needed that last timeout in the final minute.


Now, if you want to talk about how we seem to never come OUT of a timeout successfully, that's another point, and I think something worth discussing.

[bronxhoya87]

The timeout vs Wva when we were on a run was egregious.

[jerseyhoya34]

I could see Wright taking a knee if he thought somehow that it would throw his shot/mechanics off, but that is a stretch IMO. I could see it also if he had some tenderness/tweak in his arm or shooting hand.

Otherwise, the decision was just ridiculous.

[FrazierFanatic]

Jan 19, 2011 13:29:30 GMT -5 Boz said:

As has been pointed out, there were two timeouts during the 19-2 run.

One was called by the coach after SHU scored the first 8 of that run.

The second was a TV timeout a little later in the run.

And if SHU had not folded down the stretch, there's a pretty damn good chance we would have needed that last timeout in the final minute.


Now, if you want to talk about how we seem to never come OUT of a timeout successfully, that's another point, and I think something worth discussing.

Actually the timeout that bothered me was our 3rd one, when we were having a little trouble getting the ball over half court but still had 2 or 3 seconds to do so when JTIII called TO. I know we had had a ten-second call earlier and Coach may have been affected by that, but I think if we had that timeout left, we would have seen an earlier TO during the SHU run.

[Boz]

Jan 19, 2011 15:59:49 GMT -5 FrazierFanatic said:

Actually the timeout that bothered me was our 3rd one, when we were having a little trouble getting the ball over half court but still had 2 or 3 seconds to do so when JTIII called TO. I know we had had a COMPLETELY BOGUS!!!! ten-second call earlier and Coach may have been affected by that, but I think if we had that timeout left, we would have seen an earlier TO during the SHU run.

Fixed it for you.

[HoyaSinceBirth]

1) the time out during our run at WV. If we had scored on that possession everyone would've called 3 a genius for slowing our team down focusing them and setting a good play to get a score at a critical point of the game. We didn't execute, so now he's an idiot.

2) Chris not taking a last second heave at the end of the first half. Meh. Those shots rarely if ever go in. Why add another miss when you have no real shot of making that attempt. I don't think it really matters one way or another. I mean why didn't Seton Hall take a last second heave at the end of the game there was 0.6 left they could've gotten 1 more shot off and perhaps covered the spread, I doubt anyone's complaining they didn't take a last second heave there.

3) Our execution out of time outs is curious, but is probably mostly observer bias. Most of the times I remember it's been turnovers by our bigs.

[centercourt400s]

I give Wright the benefit of the doubt on that one. He looked down court and maybe no one was open for a pass. That means he's got two dribbles and a half-court heave in store for himself. So he decideds not to try it? As another poster said: meh. Not worth the thread IMO.

[hifigator]

I personally don't see much downside to at least trying the 3/4 court shot. It might only go in 1 time in 100, but those 3 points might come in really handy in that 1 game. Someone said maybe he didn't want to "throw his shot off." I can only presume that was tongue in cheek.

Maybe he didn't catch the clock right away, and not want to risk an errant shot which could give the Hall the ball back, but even if it's an air ball, and even if they had gotten the ball back it would have been under their own basket with virtually no time left. I think the positive outweighs the negative on this one.

[Grandpa]

The risk of turnover was minimal because as I recall a defender wasn't all that close - perhaps reading too much into it, but perhaps Chris didn't want to waste a shot attempt (i.e., reduce his FG%) on a low percentage 3-point heave from half-court.

[centercourt400s]

I doubt he was concerned about his stats enough to take them into account at that point. He doesn't seem like the type.

A quirky play but a non-issue.

[chep3]

He should've taken it (or passed it up to Markel to take it). Sometimes, they work.



(also I never notice Pat raising his arms as soon as it goes up. That's baller.)

[HometownHoya]

Coach did not tell Chris to do that. At the same time, Austin should be sprinting down the court after passing that ball in, COMMUNICATING with Chris to get the ball and get a half-court to 1/4 court shot off.

Oh well, at least no one will have tape on us when we come out of a TO w/ 2.5 left