JS
Bulldog (over 250 posts)
Posts: 290
|
Post by JS on Jan 19, 2011 18:30:21 GMT -5
I doubt he was concerned about his stats enough to take them into account at that point. He doesn't seem like the type. A quirky play but a non-issue. A heave from beyond half court at the end of a half does not count as a shot in the statistics unless it goes in. Attempting would not have changed his shooting percentages.
|
|
|
Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jan 19, 2011 19:25:14 GMT -5
that's good to know JS. I think that's fair, but it certainly seems odd that that's true.
|
|
lichoya68
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
OK YOUNGINS ARE HERE AND ARE VERY VERY GOOD cant wait GO HOYAS
Posts: 17,440
|
Post by lichoya68 on Jan 19, 2011 20:18:07 GMT -5
|
|
CAHoya07
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,598
|
Post by CAHoya07 on Jan 20, 2011 4:55:04 GMT -5
It seemed odd to me, too, but who really cares. Moreover, how can you blame this on JT III? It was Chris' decision.
Chris did this one other time, I think last year, there was maybe a second left in the half and he just caught it under his own basket and held the ball. The difference here is that with 2.5 seconds left, you have a chance for a couple dribbles then a heave.
Would have liked to have seen that, but again, who really cares? Plenty of other more meaningful things to nitpick on from that game than this non-play.
|
|
hoyainspirit
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
When life puts that voodoo on me, music is my gris-gris.
Posts: 8,394
|
Post by hoyainspirit on Jan 20, 2011 12:25:33 GMT -5
Actually the timeout that bothered me was our 3rd one, when we were having a little trouble getting the ball over half court but still had 2 or 3 seconds to do so when JTIII called TO. I know we had had a ten-second call earlier and Coach may have been affected by that, but I think if we had that timeout left, we would have seen an earlier TO during the SHU run. That timeout, I thought, was a good one. III called it with 26 secs left on the shot clock, ball still in the backcourt. Chances are, Clark wasn't going to make it, resulting in another TO.
|
|
|
Post by DownTownJoeyBrown on Jan 20, 2011 12:51:37 GMT -5
He should've taken it (or passed it up to Markel to take it). Sometimes, they work. (also I never notice Pat raising his arms as soon as it goes up. That's baller.) Great clip. Some of you may have noticed that we won that game against NOVA by 3 points. Jessie's 3/4 court shot was the difference. I don't how everyone can just downplay the non shot attempt by Wright. JTIII needs to teach these kids that every single shot and every single play can be the difference between a win and a loss, the difference between the NIT and the final four. Maybe if III emphasized the importance of every possession we wouldn't lead the Big East in turnovers. III needs to lead by example. Where is all the passion? The heart? Meh, its just 2.5 seconds is actually the attitude this whole team has, which leads to meh its just a turnover, meh is just one loss, meh its just a game. Every play is life or death dammit. Show a little passion out there.
|
|
|
Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Jan 20, 2011 13:12:37 GMT -5
that's just terrible logic. to say that because we won by 3 points we wouldn't have won if that half court heave doesn't go in. There was a whole half to play. You don' think the team would play different if that shot hadn't gone in. No one shot is the difference. There are a million different plays/decisions in a game. You can't point to one play as deciding a game, because if other things had gone another way the game can go a different way.
|
|
CAHoya07
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,598
|
Post by CAHoya07 on Jan 20, 2011 15:01:29 GMT -5
deeznuts, I hear what you're saying, and yeah, I kind of agree with you. Team needs a killer instinct. A common complaint of JT3 teams is that they're too stoic. It's fine when you're winning, but when you're not, it looks like a lack of aggression or disinterest. I'll admit, it would be nice to see some of our players and our coach show a little more emotion at times (although be careful what you wish for).
I still think that it's unfair to magnify that one play, but I kind of doubt we'll see that kind of thing again. If it does and it somehow leads to a loss, you can say, "I told you so." To me, it was a rare instance, although as I said, I do remember something similar happening once before.
I still prefer to be concerned with the other 39 minutes and 57.5 seconds of that game, as well as the 11 games remaining on our Big East schedule. The St. John's game is a HUGE one. Win, and we're still in the swing of things. Lose, and we're staring 3-7 right in the face.
|
|
SFHoya99
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 17,791
|
Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 20, 2011 15:10:57 GMT -5
The Jeff Green/Roy Hibbert teams had plenty of killer instinct. They were stoic. On court emotional outbursts are not a prerequisite for having killer instinct.
|
|