lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Nov 30, 2011 20:19:34 GMT -5
sorry man britt is DARN GOOD. yup dc gonzaga woulda shoulda coulda DARN
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Post by idhoya on Nov 30, 2011 20:26:05 GMT -5
I think he went where he'd best fit...the ACC. Like Jordan better cause of his length, speed and quicks. May not be as polished as Britt, but Philly tough and 6'3.
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lichoya68
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Post by lichoya68 on Nov 30, 2011 21:23:23 GMT -5
WELL i quess i kinda like our philly tough six five point guard mr. trawick ;D ;D ;D aok so we will be just fine .. just hate to see a gonzaga kid going to caroline ITS JT3 HIGHSCHOOL Man oh well move move move and move on go hoyas new and old and present.. especially present what a group we got
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Post by gphoya07 on Dec 2, 2011 12:38:41 GMT -5
Not sure how many caught the Nate Britt to UNC story on 5-Star's website (http://fivestarbasketball.com/originals/11-30-2011-exclusive-video-nate-britt-college-choice-blog).
If you watch the video you can see Nate has a white board in his room that has each school listed with pros and cons. It's a little fuzzy but you can make out some of them for Georgetown (1:16 mark). It looks like pros: JT3, Academics, Home, and Kel (i.e. Markel). Cons: Style of Play (slow), something I can't read, Coaching Staff, and Small.
The pros on his list are what you would expect. As for the cons- nothing we can do about being a small school and unfortunately, it seems like our style of play always APPEARS to be an issue. But what is most concerning is seeing "coaching staff" listed as a con. I've been a Georgetown fan for 20+ years and have been reading this board for sometime and I know there's been some discontent on this board with some of our assistant coaches, as of late. Nate Britt is only 1 recruit, but him not being a fan of our assistant coaches won't do anything for people's confidence in the staff.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Dec 2, 2011 12:42:52 GMT -5
Not sure how many caught the Nate Britt to UNC story on 5-Star's website (http://fivestarbasketball.com/originals/11-30-2011-exclusive-video-nate-britt-college-choice-blog). If you watch the video you can see Nate has a white board in his room that has each school listed with pros and cons. It's a little fuzzy but you can make out some of them for Georgetown (1:16 mark). It looks like pros: JT3, Academics, Home, and Kel (i.e. Markel). Cons: Style of Play (slow), something I can't read, Coaching Staff, and Small. The pros on his list are what you would expect. As for the cons- nothing we can do about being a small school and unfortunately, it seems like our style of play always APPEARS to be an issue. But what is most concerning is seeing "coaching staff" listed as a con. I've been a Georgetown fan for 20+ years and have been reading this board for sometime and I know there's been some discontent on this board with some of our assistant coaches, as of late. Nate Britt is only 1 recruit, but him not being a fan of our assistant coaches won't do anything for people's confidence in the staff. No doubt he was extremely concerned about the presence of Coach Taub Can we get some video forensics on that whiteboard and get a readout of all the pro-cons?
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Post by KirbyKeger on Dec 2, 2011 12:44:58 GMT -5
I wouldn't worry too much about it. The addition of Kirby has proven to be absolutely enormous. I doubt he was assigned to Britt though. Additionally, I think its only a matter of time before Broadus is placed back into a recruiting role. Nate simply didn't want to come here. He was a Tar Heel all the way.
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Post by RDF on Dec 2, 2011 12:50:54 GMT -5
While I could care less about Nate Britt, I want to address something about his "cons" list.
Style of Play--Slow
If you are so mentally incapable of watching a game to figure out how a team plays and just listen to what detractors say--then can you really be accounted on for being a leader/pg? Georgetown doesn't play slow--in fact it was nice to listen last night to announcers who pointed out how Alabama was trying to SLOW DOWN GEORGETOWN. Mark Turgeon teams are slower then III's teams. Now is Georgetown UNC when it comes to up and down? No--but few are--because you need elite players all over court that have skill coming into college-and Hoyas have to develop kids--but this young Hoya team prefers to play fast and III's best teams run the "elite programs" off the court in their style of play-as we've seen. Duke's wins over Georgetown have been when they slowed Hoyas down--when they tried to run with them--Hoyas ran them out of gym. Hoyas engaged UNC in their style of game--took it to them/wore them down. Hoyas ran Missouri off the court. Hoyas ran nova off court several times. I'll keep going --how about the beatdown of Terps in Orlando?
Watch the games and understand the game--especially if you are going to be playing a position that demands you understand the game.
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Post by gphoya07 on Dec 2, 2011 12:52:17 GMT -5
Completely agree- as soon as he got the UNC offer, it was over.
I would love to see Broadus getting after it again for us...
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Post by thejerseytornado on Dec 2, 2011 13:19:50 GMT -5
our style of play, even when it's fast, doesn't highlight the PG. It's still a reasonable gripe for a star PG, but it's also why a star PG isn't a big deal to the staff.
as for "coaching staff," one kid not liking the assistants isn't a cause for too much concern--its when it becomes a trend that it's a problem. plus, our coaches--other than jt3--aren't really guard oriented. Compare that to schools with a bunch of former PGs on staff orsomething. JT3 doesn't need help with the guards (as that's his background), but it might make the coaching staff not a good fit for britt.
anyway, just some thoughts. i like getting the philly connection more anyway. let's get Rysheed!
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Post by idhoya on Dec 2, 2011 14:20:15 GMT -5
Jordan tweeted last night after the game something I thought was interesting.
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Post by grokamok on Dec 2, 2011 14:32:34 GMT -5
Our style of play typically doesn't provide a high likelihood of achieving eye-popping stats that can be bandied about as a reason to be drafted. NBA teams have been willing to take a tip-top prospect with limited stats as an underclassman, but anyone who doesn't have the top-5-in-a-recruiting-class spotlight on them may feel that, even though pace-adjusted performance might be equal, a program that plays at a higher tempo might provide better visibility.
I'm not advocating a change to that kind of play, here (unless we find ourselves with a set of players whose abilities and personalities call for it). Just thought it might be a factor. I'd love for top talent to come to the program, but I also want student-athletes who are dedicated to making themselves successful through making the team successful rather than through making themselves noticed.
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Post by KirbyKeger on Dec 2, 2011 21:08:02 GMT -5
Now, I could be wrong on this, but I think the one con that you couldn't quite make out gphoya is "Life after ball!". Why would this be a con? Here's my guess. JTIII's usual choice to emphasize that Georgetown can provide an individual with skills that will serve them well after they can no longer play basketball did not sit well with Britt. He wants to believe that he will go to the NBA, be wildly successful, make a lot of money, and never have to worry about what life is like without the rewards of basketball. Maybe he thought we couldn't or didn't want to give him the life he wants. This is all pure conjecture, but its the only way I can make sense of it if thats what it actually says.
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Post by frozenhoya on Dec 2, 2011 21:35:20 GMT -5
Who was the only guy to hold Michael Jordan under 20 points per game? Dean Smith. Jordan scored 19. 6 in his last year and 17.7 for his career (he scored 20.0 as a Sophmore but that is still way under what he could have scored if he was playing in Calipari's one on one offence. Calipari lines his guys up and lets them take turn going one on one from the top of the key.) III makes guys better and improves their NBA stock if they will work for it. The guys who get that are the guys we want. The selfish stats hounds can take it elsewhere.
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Post by lichoya68 on Dec 3, 2011 10:09:41 GMT -5
BRIITT HAD 22 LAST NITE IN A BIG GONZAGA Win DARN it
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Post by hoyazeke on Dec 3, 2011 10:56:52 GMT -5
What ever happened to Travieoso? and Padilla? How about the 5 star stud that Calipari had his early years at Memphis Wahington? If his system is so great at getting Guards into the league how come they didn't make it? Does a recruit really believe that in one year Calipari, Coach K, etc. teaches a kid something that makes him a lottery pick? True Holliday from UCLA sucked his frosh yr at UCLA and still was a lottery pick. The reason GTown system doesn't get guards into the league is because one and dones dont come to GTown. I believe JT3 would do the same thing his father did when he got AI..............get the hell out of the way..............
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Post by chep3 on Dec 3, 2011 12:17:55 GMT -5
Well to be fair to Calipari (wait, why am I doing this again?), he didn't run his AASAA offense at UMass or even for his whole tenure at Memphis. But, then again, it didn't really take off until he lined up Rose, Evans, Wall, and Knight in a row.
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Post by prhoya on Dec 3, 2011 12:38:12 GMT -5
Exactly, chep. To be fair to Padilla and Travieso, they were so good for Calipari's UMass because of their familiarity playing together growing up. Both were not the hyped, top-ranked guards you see today, so you cannot compare them to the current hyped crop of Kentucky, Calipari's Memphis and Duke guards. Kudos to Calipari for recognizing/finding gems, just like JT3 has done more than once. It's better to ask whatever happened to former #1-ranked recruit Paulus or Top 5 J. Scheyer. Now, you would be comparing apples to apples. No kudos to Coach K because he has taken a few Top 5 recruits, squeezed them for what they're worth and not developed them towards the League. Just like others use the perception of our system against us, those busts should serve for negative recruitment against Duke.
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Post by RDF on Dec 3, 2011 15:15:02 GMT -5
Calipari can coach--don't buy into the garbage he's only buying players--a lot of coaches can't handle big ego/talents and he does a nice job of bringing a team together--which isn't easy when they are young--no matter how talented.
Also understand that guards love how Calipari, Williams let you play your game and get up/down/control it--but no reason Georgetown can't have a great guard break the mold. Not like III makes you play like Butler and Wisconsin gets good guards and they are about as dull as it gets.
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Post by zxhoya on Jan 26, 2015 21:44:12 GMT -5
Watched Cuse vs UNC and I could have sworn Nate Britt was left handed? He was stroking 3's with his right and looking good doing it, don't know if I've seen a player change mid career his shooting hand.
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Post by Talos on Jan 27, 2015 9:04:28 GMT -5
Watched Cuse vs UNC and I could have sworn Nate Britt was left handed? He was stroking 3's with his right and looking good doing it, don't know if I've seen a player change mid career his shooting hand. Yeah, I was thinking the exact same thing...I had a picture in my mind that he was left-handed also.
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