SSHoya
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Post by SSHoya on Oct 25, 2010 0:25:26 GMT -5
I think it would also be more telling if it weren't big news nationally. Not to pick on the University of Maryland (okay, let's pick on 'em), or any large state univeristy, if the same thing had occurred there, does anyone think it would be national news? It is only because of Georgetown's reputation and brand, as it were, that this has become news. It is contrary to its image as an internationally-reknown university.
That being said, in any population of 5000+ college students, you are going to find the exercise of bad judgment and youthful indiscretions. This too shall pass.
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Post by JohnJacquesLayup on Oct 25, 2010 10:31:31 GMT -5
When I was in Harbin in '99-'00, Harbin 9 was the smoking floor making it inherently easier to disguise odors from substances other than tobacco. DC's indoor smoking laws would prohibit this accommodation now, right? There isn't a smoking floor at GU anymore, is there?
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Jack
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Post by Jack on Oct 25, 2010 10:46:06 GMT -5
One shocking development I have discovered from this episode - The Voice's coverage (via Vox Populi) is crushing The Hoya. What is up with thehoya.com? It has been "experiencing technical difficulties" since the summer at least, seemingly unable to post images. Get it together, gang.
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TC
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Post by TC on Oct 25, 2010 10:50:12 GMT -5
One shocking development I have discovered from this episode - The Voice's coverage (via Vox Populi) is crushing The Hoya. What is up with thehoya.com? It has been "experiencing technical difficulties" since the summer at least, seemingly unable to post images. Get it together, gang. This I completely agree with. The Voice has been all over Twitter, it has done more updates, it has had all of the information first, and they have a comment section that actually works. It sounded like they even tried to get perp walk pics, and the administration blocked them on some BS grounds that Georgetown was private property.
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afirth
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Post by afirth on Oct 25, 2010 10:50:30 GMT -5
One shocking development I have discovered from this episode - The Voice's coverage (via Vox Populi) is crushing The Hoya. What is up with thehoya.com? It has been "experiencing technical difficulties" since the summer at least, seemingly unable to post images. Get it together, gang. That's been the case for even longer than since this summer. The Hoya's blog has better updates though: saxaspeak.thehoya.com/EDIT: I mean better than thehoya.com, not better than Vox Populi.
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Post by LizziebethHoya on Oct 25, 2010 12:45:52 GMT -5
IMO, The Voice has been a LOT better than The Hoya (both print and online/blog, but especially online/blog) for the past year. The Drug Lab story is just one example of many.
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Post by mchoya on Oct 25, 2010 12:47:48 GMT -5
I would claim that the Vox blog has become the go-to source for Georgetown news (moreso than The Hoya) and has certainly bolstered the reputation of the Voice. Both print publications (The Voice and The Hoya) are deficient in one area or another, and, while they serve some use, are unable to be as up-to-date as Vox.
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Post by strummer8526 on Oct 25, 2010 14:10:01 GMT -5
I totally agree w/ the Hoya vs. Vox comments. It's unfortunate, too, because I think the Hoya makes a real effort at serious journalism, and the Voice is happy being a gossip rag. But Vox runs circles around the Hoya's online presence. I would LOVE a Hoya website that allowed for constant updates, comments, etc. associated with blogs, but also maintained the journalistic integrity of the print Hoya. ("Integrity" being a word that may be quite foreign to the Voice.)
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TC
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Post by TC on Oct 25, 2010 14:27:44 GMT -5
I feel like the integrity complaint is a little out of place here, when The Voice was even beating out WaPo on that front twitter.com/#!/GtownVoice/status/28512143270 twitter.com/#!/GtownVoice/status/28512143270 Both papers seemed careful about the "meth lab" label and neither went with it until WaPo did.
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Post by PhillyHoya on Oct 25, 2010 14:39:21 GMT -5
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Oct 25, 2010 15:06:34 GMT -5
Thanks, I am a bit surprised that they went with a PWIT charge. Is there any report that they found any drugs in the room?
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PhillyHoya
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Post by PhillyHoya on Oct 25, 2010 15:20:20 GMT -5
I don't think any of the reports have stated if drugs were found but toxic chemicals consistent with production have been.
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TC
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Post by TC on Oct 25, 2010 15:35:33 GMT -5
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Post by ksf42001 on Oct 25, 2010 15:37:21 GMT -5
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Post by vcjack on Oct 25, 2010 15:43:53 GMT -5
We thought we were being badasses in Harbin back in 06-07 those couple of times people managed to sneak kegs into the building. Even moreseo now, to paraphrase HST, Harbin Hall is decadent and depraved.
The real silver lining in this incident is that it happened before Halloween, giving everyone time to update their topical costume/party themes
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afirth
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Post by afirth on Oct 25, 2010 15:50:41 GMT -5
Combination of 21 U.S.C 841 (the prohibited act of drug possession) and 21 U.S.C. 846 (attempt/conspiracy) To be convicted of attempted drug possession with the intent to distribute, the government must prove: (1) intent to commit the federal crime of drug possession with the intent to distribute and (2) that the accused did an act constituting a "substantial step" towards the commission of that crime. A substantial step must be something more than mere preparation, yet may be less than the last act necessary before the actual commission of the substantive crime. 21 U.S.C. 846 states, "Any person who attempts or conspires to commit any offense defined in this subchapter shall be subject to the same penalties as those prescribed for the offense, the commission of which was the object of the attempt or conspiracy."
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Post by HometownHoya on Oct 25, 2010 15:51:20 GMT -5
Comparing the voice twitter feed to any other news source (other then the valid Hoya comparison) is just rediculous...who will report first: the new freshman trying to gain cred at the voice who was woken by the whole ordeal or the professional writer listening to the police radio who arrives 2 minutes after the police?
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TC
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Post by TC on Oct 25, 2010 16:32:47 GMT -5
Comparing the voice twitter feed to any other news source (other then the valid Hoya comparison) is just rediculous...who will report first: the new freshman trying to gain cred at the voice who was woken by the whole ordeal or the professional writer listening to the police radio who arrives 2 minutes after the police? That's not the point - the "meth lab" call was made by the professional writers who appeared to have screwed up. The Hoya and The Voice never called it a "meth lab" (the Voice said "suspected meth lab" and The Hoya went with "drug lab") until both WUSA9 and WaPo had gone with it without an "alleged" or "suspected". That's a good thing.
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Post by LizziebethHoya on Oct 25, 2010 18:16:56 GMT -5
Combination of 21 U.S.C 841 (the prohibited act of drug possession) and 21 U.S.C. 846 (attempt/conspiracy) To be convicted of attempted drug possession with the intent to distribute, the government must prove: (1) intent to commit the federal crime of drug possession with the intent to distribute and (2) that the accused did an act constituting a "substantial step" towards the commission of that crime. A substantial step must be something more than mere preparation, yet may be less than the last act necessary before the actual commission of the substantive crime. 21 U.S.C. 846 states, "Any person who attempts or conspires to commit any offense defined in this subchapter shall be subject to the same penalties as those prescribed for the offense, the commission of which was the object of the attempt or conspiracy." Someone is a law student....
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 26, 2010 4:28:31 GMT -5
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